McCain VP Likely Decision

reply to post by TXMACHINEGUNDLR


One thing I can say for certain: if there was an enthusiasm gap for McCain among conservatives, it just evaporated. Conservatives absolutely love this pick of a highly conservative running mate for McCain, and a woman, no less. I think this will be a gigantic positive for McCain among blue collar voters.

It is extremely good for the GOP. But what if he choose Romney or Pawlenty would have it been better. I totally agree with McCain on his decision, but what IF he did choose some one else? Would have been positive or more negative?

reply to post by truth_seeker3


I think Romney would have been a mistake. The primary fight was just too nasty and much like is happening on the other side, their attacks on one another would've been used against them by the Dems. It also opens up the whole 'two rich white guys' argument. It probably would've been the richest ticket ever.

Pawlenty? I think the same argument could be made against him as Palin. People would be asking 'Who is this guy?' He's not a nationally known figure, either and would be seen as a dry, boring pick (and one who isn't as conservative as Palin). Palin, by virtue of her gender, generates a great deal of excitement simply on that basis, and at the very least, will lead a lot of women voters who might've been leaning toward Obama to take a 2nd look at the McCain/Palin ticket.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by vor78]

Palin looks a lot like Pawlenty, except she is a woman and very conservative. That would be McCain's reasoning I think.

The choice is Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

The Republicans are hoping she is a good choice to get women from Obama. The Hillary women that is. I think if the Hillary women were just in it for a women president will vote for McCain. The others will go for Obama.

I really think it is a play to get the all clear to drill in ANWAR. She's all for it! I believe her husband works for B.P. (I believe he does anyway). The GOP is making their play. Lets see whats said when people start talking about fuel prices.

reply to post by truth_seeker3


I tend to agree with that. I see nothing in Pawlenty's resume that Palin doesn't also bring to the table. She may even be a bit more conservative than he is, and her avid support of the NRA, hunting, fishing, etc, will play very, very well with blue collar voters. She looks an awful lot like one of them.

reply to post by vor78


Because the economy is bad, I thought the Romney card would be used as Vice President. However, Mitt is an ambitious man and believes McCain is a one term president - he'll be 77 in 2012.

Same reason why Obama did not pick Hilary, why would you select your potential assassin?

Whatever you think, Sarah Palin has stolen the headlines from Obama. Today should of been American news discussing the Democratic National Convention, but the Republicans have worked the media VERY well.

reply to post by truth_seeker3


Is it really fair to assume that women are so naive as to vote for someone based entirely on their gender. I'm sure there are some Hilary fans who will vote for McCain because of his VP choice but to think that women across the country will let their beliefs fall to the wayside in order to get a woman as VP is just silly. Lets not forget that Palin is hardcore pro-life and a lot of women want to have choices when it comes to their own bodies.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by truth_seeker3

 

Is it really fair to assume that women are so naive as to vote for someone based entirely on their gender. I'm sure there are some Hilary fans who will vote for McCain because of his VP choice but to think that women across the country will let their beliefs fall to the wayside in order to get a woman as VP is just silly. Lets not forget that Palin is hardcore pro-life and a lot of women want to have choices when it comes to their own bodies.

[edit on 29-8-2008 by iamcamouflage]

TRUE! . Seriously. Single women and mothers who do not know much about politics will vote for the women. Oh look! A women for VP, lets go! The McCain camp stole the spotlight from Obama. Again. Good Job GOP.

reply to post by iamcamouflage


You're right, but I think that its equally naive to believe that all women vote only based on the candidates' abortion stance.

This pick is not intended to appeal to the core of the Democratic party. McCain is going after blue-collar voters with this pick. Most of those people tend to be at least mildly conservative, and its a mistake to automatically believe that women in that group will automatically reject a pro-life ticket. An awful lot of them won't. In fact, many of them ARE pro-life.


[edit on 29-8-2008 by vor78]

One issue that EVERYONE, conservatives, liberals, liberal conservatives, libertarians, constitutionalists, communists, and fascists, EVERYBODY can agree on is that Sarah Palin will immediately improve the physical attractiveness quotient of the Vice Presidency over Dick Cheney by about a bazillion percent. If for no other reason that the fact that she's actually able to smile without looking like she's snarling or sneering (sneerling?).

reply to post by burdman30ott6


Oh my goodness, you had me on the floor with that one. Definitely agree that it IS a improvement from Cheney. *shudders*. Even though I am more democratic, she would be a improvement from the current administration in attractiveness and in policy.

reply to post by iamcamouflage


Serious question then, and no, this isn't an attempt at race baiting. If we're supposed to believe that this will backfire on the GOP and women voters are too smart to vote for McCain just because he's picked a woman veep, then what does that say about the almost unanimous loyalty the media touts of the black community towards Obama?

I've watched countless black voters interviwed and, almost without fail, I have yet to see a single one of the accurately describe a position or platform Obama has that is the reason for their support. They all throw out buzz words like "change", "dynamic", "energing", "invigorating" it makes Obama sound like a hell of an energy drink, but sure doesn't lay out any indication he'd actually make a decent president. Then there's the group that will bring up something like "bringing the troops home" when we all know Obama's position on that has changed, or they talk about Bush's attack on freedoms when we all know Obama supported the FISA bill which was supposedly a gross attack on our freedoms until the Dems supported it and then it was quietly swept under the rug by the Olbermans of the world lest their favorite politicos become exposed as frauds. The one constant to these interviews is the underlying reason why Obama has such support among blacks, they come really close to saying it outright but only rarely do these interviewed black voters actually say the words: "I'm supporting him because he's black, like me."

If we're gonna stand around and say "Women voters are too smart to simply vote for someone because she's a woman. The woman candidate MUST have a solid platform to stand on." then are we to assume that black voters aren't "too smart" to vote for a black candidate without a consistant platform? I'll remind you "change" is not a platform until you actually lay out what that change is and how we'll achieve it, which is something Obama has NOT done.

reply to post by vor78

You were the only on here that got this right...Kudos dude...everyone else was grasping at straws.....Great choice by McCain...just stole all of the Hillary voters and Obama's thunder....NJCARGUY

reply to post by burdman30ott6




Because, to be quite honest here, the majority of black people by and large do not even vote in presidential elections.

It is safe to assume based on polling statistics that black who do vote this year will be overwhelmingly in favor of Barack Obama.

reply to post by BlackOps719


Yes the African-American population will vote for Obama. I like your view on the way women and McCain. With a women on his side, he will get more votes. Practically, women will vote for women if they have a choice.

reply to post by truth_seeker3


You are forgetting, she is hawt! Best pick he could have made by far, the libs are freaking out already calling her Quale, what tards.

I'm sure all the drunk people who are voting will vote for her. But seriously, that's my position.

reply to post by vor78


I was not implying that abortion is the only issue that women vote on, I was only pointing out that issues should trump gender, race, religion. Abortion was only one example of an issue that directly impacts women.

reply to post by iamcamouflage


I know women with opinions on abortion. Doesn't everyone?! Abortion and other issues like this will play a key role in this election.