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Originally posted by sensfan
OK, I'll bite. What do those naturally occuring clouds, some of which are probably due to contrails spreading out, have to do with 9/11 holograms, which are hogwash anyway?
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Awesome avatared Sensfan (and a host of others) aside, I'm not ready to discard the 9/11 hologram theory yet.
I'm sure that such things exist.
I remember hearing a caller to the Art Bell show say that a jet liner flew low over his car once as he was driving along and then it just vanished into thin air in front of him. He didn't sound obviously nutty or like some kind of smart ass hoaxter.
Someone in another thread months ago found US Air Force literature connected to a military meeting that took place in Australia, in which holograms were included in the spectrum of weapons expected to be available in the near future.
Maybe what the OP saw was some kind of experiment with holograms. Video proof of a hologram would be nice to have.
Just found this. If you go to 56:20 of this video, John Lear tells hologram stories including the one I was trying to remember.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
reply to post by jfj123
You're a very authoritative expert in everything but credentials, or should I say, stated credentials. Is there any reason you could supply that would indicate why we should believe anything you say.
I don't mean to sound flippant, but you've made a lot of very categorical statements with nothing to back them up. How about some sources or at least some kind of explanation of what you are saying?
And if you don't mind, don't bother with the ad hominem against John Lear. I've heard a lot of that already from people who sound screwier than he alledgedly does. Mr. Lear really pushes some people's buttons!?!
Originally posted by ipsedixit
I don't mean to sound flippant, but you've made a lot of very categorical statements with nothing to back them up. How about some sources or at least some kind of explanation of what you are saying?
Originally posted by jfj123
1. Why don't you ask me questions related to the thread and holograms, I'll answer them and you can decide for yourself.
. . .
3. My background involves Electronics, computers, lasers, optics and construction. Believe it if you want. I don't care. Keep in mind that when you ask my why the planes couldn't be holograms and I post the answers, you can easily verify them.
Originally posted by exponent
We need positive evidence of a claim before anyone can start to easily present opposing evidence.
edit: My background includes work with optics and computing, but I would rather not get into specifics
[edit on 2-9-2008 by exponent]
Originally posted by jfj123
I'm sure that such things exist.
They do not.