Police slam CodePink protester to the ground

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


I cannot agree that he is a pig. She was up against him, so therefore he had a right to throw her back.

Also, there will not be cops vs civilians. This is silly. It will be the army, civilians, and cops vs the federal government and it will be fast. the feds will simply have no supporters.

I do find it hard to believe that people are reacting to the idiots in this thread with the "Hell yeah, smash her face" posts. Obviously, they are getting off by your reactions, just ignore the juvenile stupidity and move along. I doubt they would say the same thing if it were their mother, sister, girlfriend or such.

Del

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Someday protesters will show up equally armed, and with the same violent intent.

This is called dictatorship. the act of forcing what you're for with guns is the first step towards dictatorship.

Protest doesn't equal revolt. It's people speaking their minds, not forcing it on others.

The ignorance in such words is astronomical.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by Gorman91]

Originally posted by DelMar
I do find it hard to believe that people are reacting to the idiots in this thread with the "Hell yeah, smash her face" posts. Obviously, they are getting off by your reactions, just ignore the juvenile stupidity and move along. I doubt they would say the same thing if it were their mother, sister, girlfriend or such.

Del

I have anger for violence towards protesters. It is wrong. It shouldn't be. Protesters deserve to speak their minds. But violent intent receives violent response.

Code Pink is notorious for their aggressive actions. There's no doubt in my mind she started it.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by Gorman91]

Originally posted by Tiloke


That woman was not hurt at all. Not even a little bit. Other protesters were actually telling her to stay down and act hurt because it , I'm quoting what I heard now, " It will look better on Youtube if you look like your hurt, don't move."

How in the world would you know that? I am a large man. I am also a Firefighter EMT and if I was hit like that I would expect C-spine injury. If I was on scene I would have held her head to make sure she did not have c-spine injury and backboarded her for X-ray at the nearest trauma center. So would any medical professional.

No Doctor R.N. Paramedic or EMT could know if she was injured without an X-ray. The incident of injury warranted a trip to the trauma center.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


The reason for the way they were using bullhorns to stop possible unwarranted arrests is because of how the people are treated in the past. Like this one.


I could post a lot more...ones that have police using brutality, with citizens talking to the police to make them stop using excessive force to no avail. She should not have put the bullhorn in his face (if that is what happened) but actions like that are the first steps taken when we are not heard. The next step is violence.

reply to post by MidnightDStroyer

A comment like that coming from someone who uses Carnage for an avatar is a comment I can't disagree with...

Now, now, Carnage was simply misunderstood, a bit too lively for some, perhaps a little hyper and ADD, but not all bad. He did have a sense of chivalry which is much more than I can say for the poor excuse for a cop in Denver.

When I see this happening and the way the cops said "back it up bitch" and moved violently against this woman I think of the CBS Early Show Investigation of Police Steroid Abuse and wonder if this is related. If you notice in the graphic below taken from the video linked in this post you will noticed that CO is on their list and Denver is for sure a problem area of police steroid abuse.




Seems to me her lawyer should be asking for the officer shown to submit to testing for steroid use and if he was he should be punished for it.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Someday protesters will show up equally armed, and with the same violent intent.

That will be the consequence of this action, it is always the consequence of this type of action. I hope you all live long enough to witness it for yourself, understand it for what it is and remember to teach it to your young so they don't fall to the same error.
I sit here and read these posts, watch the news and remember how this all happened before.

Impressive show of force by the jackboots which Fascist rightwingers were so up in arms about in the 90s - and which liberal hypocrite reactionaries defended. On the plus side, at least the Fascist Sect finally realized who's on their side. Democratic voters still haven't figured that out.

Oh, and *way to go* DNC. The, ahem, "party of tolerance" is just another front for telecom immunity, perpetual war and permanent corporate governance.

Two party politics. What's not to love?

Sis boom bah.

reply to post by LoneGunMan


You seem to understand this all very well.

We used to say, "Protect yourself from harm, protect yourself from ignorance, but above all, protect yourself from those who wish to protect you from yourself". Some people on this thread will not understand that message as they do not know what tyranny and oppression truly mean or how intimidation is used to create it, I hope you catch the meaning.

For everyone else;

Protestors and demonstrators have a right to voice themselves and a national political rally is exactly the place to do this. Often these protestors pick an extreme point of view that seems wacky and unreasonable. This is done because they know, and I know, and now you know, that if their point is considered, their best hope is only a compromise, so they choose to negotiate from the most extreme position possible. This tactic is not new and it is proven to work successfully throughout history in politics and business alike.

It has worked to give freedom to the slaves, equal rights to women, respect to the elderly and compassion to those who cannot speak on their own behalf. It is used to prevent cruelty to the weak and innocent. Those who would oppose a demonstrator’s right to speak up, oppose us all. Those who would commit acts of violence against a political voice, or condone those actions, commit those actions against us all as every single American alive today have reaped the benefits from a protestor who was hell bent and in a fury to speak out against an injustice somewhere in our past.

I do wish you all could understand this.

I does not matter what was said or done prior to the attack on this young woman and it does not matter what her cause was or why she chose to be there and to speak up. It only matters that we witnessed the attack and know that she did not pose a real threat to the officer that beat her. Given time to arrange a story, the police department will do exactly what they have always done, justify their cruelty. If you could only hear these men speak candidly among themselves after this incident, you would understand the true meaning of cruelty.

Well here's another one. An ABC producer was arrested in Denver for taking photos of senators and investors, while he was on a public sidewalk.
One cop was pushing him into the street with traffic and then another cop graps him by the throat to push him up against the wall, twisting his arm behind his back to arrest him.

So now it's not just the protesters, but also the media trying to do an investigation. The producer was working on an investigation for Charles Gibson's show.


www.abovetopsecret.com...'


But hey i'm sure we'll hear from the police apologists, and fascism supporters about how the cops were just doing their jobs and the producer somehow provoked the cops use of force.

reply to post by eaganthorn


Thank you - I'm glad someone gets it ... Fascism isn't something we are heading towards - its something that is endemic in our culture, which sometimes threatens to become epidemic - the dark shadow side if you will to all our good ol American "bon ami"....the shadow of the Wiemar Republic is alive and well within our borders...We are a relatively young nation and an experiment to boot...we're bound to have a few kinks and to face that with honesty and the determination to be vigilant, practical and persistent patriots will serve us better than rage and distress - be awake and watchful - whether on the demonstration ground or at a round table meeting at city hall -

To those of you who are shocked by police brutality:
During WWII there was a network of nazis sympathizers all across this country - do you think they just up disappeared into thin air??? Do you think they gave up their philosophy because it wasn't popular anymore? Please don't be naive...they simply continued their lives as bankers, military officers, CEO's, educators, butchers, bakers and candle stick makers etc. and passed on their ideas couched in a new language....

The fact is our intelligence agencies are based fully on the German model - especially since we imported about 2000 SS officers right after the end of the war - and to a degree this model has trickled down into our local police forces...

"They Live".... and thats a fact - so we need to be "wise as serpents, harmless as doves"...stand our ground and stay aware.

A old hippy once told me how to survive a riot. Get a wet rag and wrap around face. Wear eye protection, and cover your clothes in human waste. The cops may grab ya, but after that they will let go.....I promise ya.

Simply disgusting where this world is heading, shame on America

I wonder if the officer that slammed this woman to the ground with such force, uses such physical abuse on the women in his own family? How about his own wife, mother, sister, etc?

Obviously that man is twice to three times her size in height and weight.

I wonder if that man is proud of himself? Wonder if shoving around women makes him feel like a real man?

I had an ex who served time in jail for the EXACT thing you see on that video.

A man who would shove a woman down like that has no conscience, and more than likely thinks nothing about it at all. In fact I would go so far as to say he enjoys it. She wasn't on top of him biting him or attacking him. Either way, the man lost control of himself and he's absolutely disgusting.

I hope he reads this.

I wonder how many of us here would push a person away from us forcefully when that person has been standing 2 feet from your face screaming into a pink megaphone after you have asked them to move back several times?

After browsing the comments section beneath that youtube video, I'm horrified at the amount of boys and men who are cheering what this officer did. Seems like this society is turning out alot of people who live for violence even if it's against women. I feel nauseated.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
The problem with these video's is we do not know what happened just prior.

The girl who was knocked down, I have no opinion. She says do it again in a very threatening tone, so what happened just prior. Who knows. For all I know she kicked him, spit on him or something else.

That second one, I do have an opinion. That was just plain wrong!

Agreed, we don't know what happened before that. Now, I can tell you this much right up front. If she did 'spit' on him or 'kick' him she would not ONLY have been shoved violently to the ground but also restrained IMMEDIATELY! You see, your reasoning is good under certain circumstances. Just not this one. If she would have been violent in any manner before the assault then it would have ended there with her in cuffs.

Then, what makes me fully believe she didn't do anything wrong, she was hauled off during her interview with the media. Thus, silencing her side of the story.

She probably ended up in one of the FEMA camps set up prior to the DNC.

What a joke. Good bye my once free nation.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Someday protesters will show up equally armed, and with the same violent intent.

You're right, and when they do it will be called Revolution.

I hate to say it, but I can't disagree with the argument that people are only going to take so much before they snap.