Uncensored NASA Moon Images!!

Originally posted by mikesingh
Anomalous area highlighted in blue....

Whats with the black arrow landmark pointing to it? Looks like the cross in Copernicus

This object appears on three separate Apollo 15 panoramic images. It is apparently identical in all three images. The two mapping images appear to be identical also. The P-9632 image shows more light on the rock face behind the object. The object sits just to the right of the Iszak D Crater, and appears to be about a mile (EDIT: it seems the object is about 2.4 miles (4 K)) in length and of a cylindrical shape.

AS15-P-9625
AS15-P-9630
AS15-P-9632

Mapping (metric) camera images
AS15-M-1333
AS15-M-1037

It seems the image from the alleged Apollo 20 mission is not legitimate. The surrounding area is different.


However this video merging the two images is interesting.





[edit on 8/26/08 by SPreston]

reply to post by mikesingh


wouldnt be trasparent, glass formed natuarly, IE lighting, is dark and burnt with colorations of the sand cilica or dirt that was melted to form it.

Originally posted by Acharya
It supposedly is a lava flow:

Lava flow? So there are volcanoes on the Moon? There's no incontrovertible proof for that. It is suggested that there may have been volcanic activity on our Moon billions of years ago. If so that 'lava' would long have been covered up by Moon dust. And then where's the proof it's lava? Could very well be a shadow too! Needless to say there's no proof either way!

Cheers!

Iszak Crater with the Iszak D Crater and the object in the upper right.
Esp-Luna-43-Iszak

AS15-M-1720

Size of Iszak in pixels

Size of object in pixels

L. Scantamburlo
We can think of the longitudinal axis of the cigar-shaped object as the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle. I have measured the two catheti: 16 pixels and 67 pixels. To find the hypotenuse we can use the well-known Pythagoras theorem: I have got the value of 68.88 px.

With a simple ratio we can calculate the dimension in km of the huge object of the far side of the Moon:

430 (px): 30 (km) = 68.88 (px): X (km)

What I got is: x= 4.80 km. X in this case would be the object length, considering the approximation that the cigar-shaped object is parallel to the lunar soil, and that there is no perspective effect in the picture.

So we have a length of almost 5 km.

My feeling is that huge object is not a natural formation and if there is the tiny possibility it is artificial, it was and it is mandatory for mankind to investigate that lunar anomaly with a robotic or a manned mission on the far side of the Moon.

Apollo 19 & 20: New Clues And Revelations On The Case

[edit on 8/26/08 by SPreston]

Apparently NASA took as many images of the huge mysterious object on the far side of the moon as they could. Did they return on secret missions to investigate?

AS17-M-2805
AS17-M-2806
AS17-M-2807
AS17-M-2808

AS15-M-1038
AS15-M-1334
AS15-M-1335

reply to post by zorgon


Thanks for a link to the big picture of the moon cave, here I have changed the brightness and the contrast to make it more visable:





Another weird thing is that the area around the cave seems luminated.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by Acharya]

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I did the same, but my result was a little different.



It does not look like a cave to me, it looks like another land-slide.

And it's normal that the area has some light shining on it, it is being reflect by the side of the crater.

Maybe its a hidden launch tube for those sneaky secret aliens.

Cheers!!!

[edit on 27-8-2008 by RFBurns]

reply to post by SPreston


Seen from above and with the light more from the top it looks very different, all that volume could be just a result of the low light making long shadows.



Full size image of the above (800x737) here.

That image is just a small part of the original AS15-M-1720 that I downloaded from here, a 221MB PNG file. There are also 16 bits per pixel TIFFs available, each a 5000MB file, but when I tried them some time ago I thought that the difference in quality and resolution was not worth the trouble.

I wonder what John Lear would have to say about the pics on this thread.

I miss John Lear. Some say he is still around, reading our posts and replying anonymously with an ip masker... some say he has a new account, and only leaks info through members who are close friends....

...but those are just urban legends and such.

Two more images of that small crater with the land (or lava) slide.

AS17-151-23172


AS17-M-0245

While I was looking for more photos with the "cave" I reached the conclusion that the "cave" is the same thing as the small crater with the land-slide.

In this first image (the one that had the "spire"), we can see that drawing a line from a small crater near Lobachevskiy (1 on the image), passing by another smaller crater (2) will point to the land-slide.


Doing the same with the "cave" image rotated 180º we see the same result.


I didn't noticed it at first because I did not understood what was seen on the "cave" photo, when I looked at the map I understood, the image was upside-down.

reply to post by ArMaP


Check out what I found in the image you posted...Another 'tower'?



From here...


AS17-151-23172
www.lpi.usra.edu...

Cheers!




[edit on 27-8-2008 by mikesingh]

reply to post by ArMaP


Excellent air brushing by NASA!! Are you sure this image has not been tampered with by them? Any proof they haven't done so?

reply to post by mikesingh


I cannot not be sure of anything, only of the things I do, but I don't see any need of airbrushing what was not there. Are you sure about the existence of the "tower"?

If they never used JPEG images I think 80% of the "anomalies" would have never existed, but as everyone uses JPEGs and, after any processing save the image again as a JPEG, the image gets more and more degraded by the JPEG algorithm, and the case of that "spire" is an obvious example.

One of the things the JPEG algorithm does is enhance the difference between dark and bright areas, so the brighter area of the small crater along with dark land-slide makes it look different.

Think of it this way, if you can clearly see the 8x8 pixel blocks created by the JPEG algorithm then the image is not the best to work with, unless it is the only one you have. Even the bigger images I posted suffer from this type of artifact, but as the images I posted are almost seven times bigger, the artifacts only affect things seven times as smaller as those on your image.


reply to post by mikesingh

This tower?


It's the land-slide upside-down.

Very true about the jpeg processing producing added "stuff".

But lets also keep in mind that jpeg did not exsist when these images were taken. These images are scans of prints from film negatives. Scanning also introduces "stuff" into the final image.

Hence...what we get in the end is what they give us. And "Never A Straight Answer/No Anomaly Seen Alright" guys get to work with their raw data with their own specialized programs, which public use versions of those are sometimes made available on official websites.

We can only hope that what we get on our side of the fence is a true copy of whats on their side of the fence..jpeg, tif, gif, whatever.

Since the old Apollo images do not have "raw" data originals, we can only work with the available images from the scanned prints.

But all of that does not rule out any sneaky "airbrushing" activity. Then again, there may not be any sneaky airbrushing going on in those dark rooms.

Cheers!!!

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by SPreston

 

Seen from above and with the light more from the top it looks very different, all that volume could be just a result of the low light making long shadows.

I see what you mean. Thanks.

However, on the full resolution (16193x16193) image, the area around the object in the upper left of the photo does not look the same. It looks like wind scooped the dust away. Is this image 'censored'? No matter where I look on the entire photo, I do not find a similar scooped out effect anywhere.

I am new to this and am not at this time a believer in aliens on the moon. But I do retain an open mind and this subject is fascinating regardless.

AS15-M-1720.png

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I dont think its JPEG compression errors that causes the "tower". It definetly is a cave in my opinion, the picture that convinced me was the Clementine photo where you see it from the side also and not just from the front. I think somekind of smoke is coming out from it, possibly from lava inside it. You can see that above the cave entrance there is something that looks like soot from smoke, so my theory is that the "tower" is in fact smoke coming from the cave? That would explain why the "tower" is missing on some images since the smoke might be linked to activity benith the moon crust.

BTW JPEG compression its called "Lossy data compression", TIFF for example is called "Lossless data compression".




[edit on 27-8-2008 by Acharya]

Originally posted by ArMaP
While I was looking for more photos with the "cave" I reached the conclusion that the "cave" is the same thing as the small crater with the land-slide.

Nice reasoning, did not think of this myself.


[edit on 27-8-2008 by Acharya]