Large Debris Field, No Bodies, No Large Plane Parts. Flight 93? Think again

Most "truthers" don't dispute whether or not a plane actually crashed, but instead, what type of plane, how, and why.

The whole narrative that the passengers stormed the cockpit ad took control of the plane has been widely accepted and constantly repeated as solid fact by the major media outlets despite having VERY little evidence of its veracity. This is what most people naturally are skeptical about.

There were over half a dozen eyewitness reports of another plane that flew directly over the site seconds after impact. The government claimed this was a civilian aircraft that had been tasked by the military to get crash coordinates, despite the fact that there were dozens of 911 calls telling them exactly where it was, and despite the fact that no civilian plane at the time was free of the suspicion of being hijacked, despite the fact that there were already military planes in the area, and despite that fact that no civilian pilot has ever came out.

However, no eyewitness accounts gave any indication the plane was hit by anything (or was even smoking) prior to impact.

But the government reported that a fighter jet was trailing Flight 93 at possibly a close enough speed to inflict lethal damage.

Days after 9/11, a court order or something forced Dick Chaney to reveal that Bush had given the order to shoot unresponsive planes down prior to the crash of Flight 93.

Also, the military did have technology at the time of 9/11 capable of jamming other planes to force them into a controlled nose dive.

Also, commercial airliner aluminum frames are very fragile. Because of increased air friction closer to the ground, their maximum safe speed gets slower and slower as they descend. This means that going at high speeds close to the ground is extremely dangerous due to the fear that the plane could break apart.

Also, commercial airliner engines are incapable of propelling the plane on a straight line faster than 500 mph because the engines would need to generate six times the amount of thrust as needed for the same acceleration at cruising altitude (30,000 ft) where the air is much thinner.

Flight 93, according to eyewitness accounts, was going on a relatively stable, straight, low line, and then dived towards the ground at an angle the government reports as 40 degrees, at a whopping speed of 563-580 mph. A commercial airliner at that altitude at such an extreme speed at such an unnatural angle should have been ripped to shreds by the windstream.

I think the difference between "truthers" and everyone else is that "truthers" seek after ALL the evidence and let the FACTS do the talking, while everyone else is perfectly content with the story of the mainstream media - without any objection - without any further research of their own. To everyone else, it's perfectly OK when there are unanswered questions; to everyone else, the media is incapable of lying; to everyone else, the government will always have the interest of the people solely in mind. But to us, questions need to be answered. Evidence must do the talking. Confusion must be addressed.

a reply to: truther123

The whole narrative that the passengers stormed the cockpit ad took control of the plane has been widely accepted and constantly repeated as solid fact by the major media outlets despite having VERY little evidence of its veracity. This is what most people naturally are skeptical about

WRONG !!!

Have accounts of what when on in cabin from phone calls to family members and others, also hijackers had hit the wrong
button accidently transmitting over the radio which was picked up by air traffic control and other aircraft in vicinity

Finally have the cockpit recorder which picked noises and conversations from cabin

911research.wtc7.net...

There were over half a dozen eyewitness reports of another plane that flew directly over the site seconds after impact. The government claimed this was a civilian aircraft that had been tasked by the military to get crash coordinates, despite the fact that there were dozens of 911 calls telling them exactly where it was, and despite the fact that no civilian plane at the time was free of the suspicion of being hijacked, despite the fact that there were already military planes in the area, and despite that fact that no civilian pilot has ever came out.

Plane was a Falcon business jet owned by VF company, which make North Face and Wrangler jeans,

It was heading for Johnstown airport to obey landing order. Air traffic control requested do a flyby to confirm
reports that Flight 93 had crashed. People at airport would not have access to 911 calls ......

There was such a jet in the vicinity—a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C., an apparel company that markets Wrangler jeans and other brands. The VF plane was flying into Johnstown-Cambria airport, 20 miles north of Shanksville. According to David Newell, VF's director of aviation and travel, the FAA's Cleveland Center contacted copilot Yates Gladwell when the Falcon was at an altitude "in the neighborhood of 3000 to 4000 ft."—not 34,000 ft. "They were in a descent already going into Johnstown," Newell adds. "The FAA asked them to investigate and they did. They got down within 1500 ft. of the ground when they circled. They saw a hole in the ground with smoke coming out of it. They pinpointed the location and then continued on." Reached by PM, Gladwell confirmed this account but, concerned about ongoing harassment by conspiracy theorists, asked not to be quoted directly.

WRONG !!!!

Flight 93, according to eyewitness accounts, was going on a relatively stable, straight, low line, and then dived towards the ground at an angle the government reports as 40 degrees, at a whopping speed of 563-580 mph. A commercial airliner at that altitude at such an extreme speed at such an unnatural angle should have been ripped to shreds by the windstream.

Airliners have survived dives exceeding Mach 1

Even if aircraft would have suffered damaged was rendered moot when smashed into ground......

a reply to: ThroatYogurt

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