Immune' to cancer: The astonishing dwarf community in Ecuador who could hold the key to a cure

www.mailonsunday.co.uk...

I thought this would be interesting.

huh, immune to cancer & probably diabetes all because they are IGF1 deficient.

I remember that people who are myostatin deficient tended to be unusually strong & muscular.

It seems not all deficiencies is a bad thing

Ive always thought we would find it from sharks or something...i dont know why noone has found out why they dont get cancer yet...have they even been looking much? anyway going off topic good find...

i'm suprised at rate we are discovering new things linked with cancer.

i hope in 10-15 years some kind of a pill will be common thing for most of cancer type imedical issues.

like:
What's wrong with me, tell me?
Doctor - Ah, you have lung cancer. Take this syrup next 5 days. it will be ok.

What a cool find, D.

I think that there are so many area's, on this rock we live on, that we know little to nothing about.
These people's are a prime example. Simply amazing if it's true.

Wonder if the drug companies know about them?

On a darker note, if the drug companies cash is put at risk because they cant sell their cancer drugs anymore.....

Maybe they already have a plan in motion. We haven't heard about this in the mainstream media???

Come on..you know why.

i know that drug companies are involved in everything but finding cure for cancer would be every scientist dream. he would be written in history.

and what would be better for companies then:
buy our pfizer blue cancer pill
buy our yellow bayer cancer pill....

what a new market, so i'm optimistic about companies allowing progress

Do you really think they would let the general population know that they found the cure for cancer? NO

ummmmm I rather get Cancer one day when I'm old than gain an extra 10 years and get a gene inserted that makes me a Ecuadoran Dwarf

I'll take my chances that the extra joy I get in life from a good romantic life will boost my odds against Cancer

No offense Dwarf lovers... I mean nothing personal... I'm just happy being a regular ol person, sounds harsh but... I mean come on, obviously the dwarfism gene is related to the cancer free aspect... and, I'm sorry g-d it would suck worse than cancer to be a dwarf

always shopping in the kids section, people wanting to toss you around whenever you go to Australia, having to work in wierd fantasy movies for aliving

no way... I'm going to take my nice 6' frame out and get some rays and not worry about the melonoma...

WOW, this is ground breaking if you ask me. Great find!

This supports my belief that insulin is the very cause of most chronic diseases, including cancer. All of doctor Ron Rosedale's findings on the harmful effects of high insulin are becoming clearer every year.

I'll add more later.

Again nice article. Starred and Flagged!

-Dev

only further investigation will 'prove' if dwarfism or insulin is the reason that cancers don't form (or have time to develop) in this community of peoples.


i heard from when i was in grade school that cancer is absent (now this is folklore or legend based info)
that people that get warts won't get cancer...something about one virus does not allow the other virus to grow into a malignant mass.

i also heard too, that having herpes simplex make one 'immune'? from cancers...
something on the same principle as wart viruses.


i don't know if these hearsays have ever been disproven
or if any serious stidies were ever made...
but you have to know that even if 2 or 3 people that had warts and or herpes simplex and were not supposed to get cancer did actually get cancer that would only prove that the superstition is not 100% true 100% of the time for 100% of the population.

\Which leaves a big enough window of immunity to make a wart injection or getting an injection of a synthetic copy of herpes a commercially viable imunization thing.



kindly credit me with the idea if it sounds like a doable research...
because i am using this post as proof of intellectual origination of the theory to 'block' the majority of cancers in people.

reply to post by St Udio


Well I'll disprove this right now...

over 85% of paitents over the age of 70 admitted to hospitals test poitive for Herpes...

Don't know numbers on warts but guessing it's higher

so please if your going to get Herpes do it the old fashioned way so you have something to remember.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by mopusvindictus]

reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd


Nice point you made. My research (online research) is leading me to believe that the majority of chronic illnesses including cancer has to do with nutritional deficiencies of one form or another. This combined with the devastating effects of excitotoxins such as Aspartame and MSG over the long-term, are prompting these major increases in cancer rates. Not only cancer, but more obscure cancers and other neurological disorders.

Actually couldn't find the part where they lived 10 years longer, just longevity, but with the mice, they lived 10 times longer. And that was impressive. I'm not sure what a reduction of this hormone would mean. Merely reducing it is not likely to cause dwarfism, however research needs to be done, and not put into the hands of the extremely wealthy. A good balance could be found.

reply to post by mystiq


I know... I was being silly lol

Personally I think the human body has everything it needs to fight Cancer it's just that we throw ourselves out of whack by living above what our bodies can tolerate... i.e. live to excess.

After all Disease is Dis Ease

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by St Udio

 

over 85% of paitents over the age of 70 admitted to hospitals test poitive for Herpes...

Don't know numbers on warts but guessing it's higher

of all those patients. over 70 years old in hospitals....
just how many are being treated for cancer ?? All of the 85% ? Or None of the 85% ?!

in my experience the majority of 70+ year olds in hospitals had a sudden accident, (i.e. broken hip, etc)...
the people that had cancer treatments, only used some of the hospital facilities on an outpatient basis.


This is exactly wjat i'm saying --- an in depth study needs to be conducted...
instead of the "old people have herpes and warts are common"
observations about old people and hospital patients of whatever age.


the 'yellow' meaning you imply with herpes...
is only applicable to the type 2 herpes ... that could include warts in ones privates

They lived longer due to the absence of IgF-1, or lack thereof. IgF-1 is remarkably similar to insulin, hence the name Insulin like growth factor.

As I've stated before, researchers have learned that if they control the amount of insulin an organism is exposed to, they can increase their lifespans. Decreasing the amount of insulin and IgF-1 in laboratory mice has increased their lifespans by as much as three times the average mice. Also, as you read in the article, IgF-1 plays a huge role in cancer cell proliferation. High amounts of it actually promote cancer and tumor growth. Conversely, also from the article, low amounts of IgF-1 has shown to be anti-cancer.

How does this have anything to do with insulin? Ask any bodybuilder what insulin will do to their muscles. If they time their insulin spikes at the right time, it can have a tremendous effect on muscle growth. Growth! Like, growth hormone. Like, IgF-1. Insulin-like Growth Factor. Insulin can promote cell proliferation just as much as IgF-1. So, high amounts of insulin could promote cancer cell proliferation.

You don't have to be a dwarf from Ecuador to enjoy the benefits of low IgF-1. Eating a diet that keeps blood sugar low will subsequently also keep insulin and IgF-1 levels low. That means low carb!

That was a lot of Info, but I feel this is a very important corellation. What an awesome.

This is silly. Low IGF-1 is associated with accelerated cardiovascular disease and increased rates of cancer as well as a shortened life span; this is clear from observing people with hypopituitarism after pituitary tumors are removed. High levels produce acromegly(Giantism); It is so obvious that low levels of growth hormone and IGF1 are harmful that insurance companies will pay $25,000 per year to replace it in adults who are deficient. Check the medical literature, not the Daily Mail for your information. That being said, INSULIN itself is actually potentially harmful in high levels.

[edit on 18-8-2008 by j_kalin]

Originally posted by Dinamo
i'm suprised at rate we are discovering new things linked with cancer.

i hope in 10-15 years some kind of a pill will be common thing for most of cancer type imedical issues.

like:
What's wrong with me, tell me?
Doctor - Ah, you have lung cancer. Take this syrup next 5 days. it will be ok.

Surprised at the rate we are discovering new things about cancer? I must be getting old, because I remember seeing a 'new discovery' about how to tackle cancer about once per month on TV, for the last 30 years now.

Being in the media is a bit of an eye-opener. Over 90% of those cute 'giving hope for winning the war on cancer' are what are termed VNRs - video news releases. They are all made at the behest of some drug company or related lobby/PR firm. Some of these surreptiously act as adverts, with logos flashed, or brands mentioned. Others however, are 'industry generated' and are designed to keep the masses believing in the mainstream medical system.

However, in those 30 years of 'promising developments in the war on cancer' stories, hardly one of them has ever lead to a breakthrough. For those of us who have pursued the outcomes or reasons why there were no outcomes - we see outright suppression via the carrot or stick approach.

As many industry whistleblowers have claimed, there will be no cure for cancer, ever. It is a far too a lucrative industry to allow a cure to be 'discovered'.

Stay tuned for decades of more stories like this one ...

Duncan

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Nice points again Duncan. I wanna put together a couple of your phrases for fun...


..."believing in the mainstream medical system via the carrot and stick approach"..

saying that almost nothing has changed in treating cancer in 30 years is ridiculous.
treating breast cancer in 1975 was same as in 2008?
or leukemia?

wouldn't say so.

and for others saying literature knows better then Daily mail.
i hope it does but if it weren't Daily mail or others, nobody would know about any of this information.