If Russia/US Nuclear War Breaks Where Do We Go?

Im putting this in the survival thread and please mirthfulme dont move this. It belongs here because this has to do with the biggest of all survival questions. If a nuclear war looks like it is going to break where the hell am I going to take my family. Lately I have thought about this (after this whole Georgia deal) and I have really come up with 3 locations.

A. Right in the heartland of the US Iowa. I like here because there is little population and bases which makes for little use to nuke. Not only that wind is big which could blow away any prevailing fallout.

B. Some misc Caribbean Island. My mentality is once again the wind and the fact that who the hell is going to nuke some small Caribbean Island.

C. Switzerland. For some reason Switzerland never gets hit in all the wars and part of that reason is because that is where all the money and power of the world play.

Those are my three places to go if it looks like a nuke war is going to break. People this is about survival and we have to be realistic here. This is no sit-x if this really happens our areas that we can go to and actually survive will be VERY minimal. Then again there may be no place to go to survive. Fill me in.

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Lol. Why did you say Mirthful Me?

Even an all out nuclear war, there will still be survivors. But, how would you get there, if there is a launch, you would have maybe 20-30 min. Also, how would you know of a launch in the first place?

Originally posted by jhill76
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Lol. Why did you say Mirthful Me?

Even an all out nuclear war, there will still be survivors. But, how would you get there, if there is a launch, you would have maybe 20-30 min. Also, how would you know of a launch in the first place?

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No Im planning this ahead of time like right now. If I feel that there is going to be a world war im making my move. Im not waiting for the bombs to fly. I dont think we are there yet but we are getting there and Im not sticking around if it does.

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Just had to quote Daniel Fry from his book "the White sands incident"

into a war of annihilation. Weapons of absolute energy were used by each nation against the other, weapons whose destructive power was a thousand times greater than that of the Hydrogen bomb which threatens your race today. There was no question of victory or defeat. They simply destroyed each other. There were few survivors and the radiation level of the entire surface of the planet had been raised beyond human tolerance. This did not mean that all survivors were doomed to immediate death from the radiation, but it did mean that progressive deterioration of the mental and biological functions, together with the large number of mutations which would be produced in succeeding generations, would, eventually, bring their level of existence down almost to that of the beast. "On a high plateau, in what is now the country of Tibet, six of our aerial craft had been landed by their crews. A council was held to determine what, if anything, could be done.

im pretty much in his footsteps, somewhere highup and isolated from radiation and mutants

I hate to tow this line because this is actually an interesting subject, but I honestly don't think a nuclear war between the countries is possible.

I didn't grow up in the Cold War so I can't vouch for whether or not this is a new one, but from what I can tell, the idea of two powers having a nuclear war is just inconceivable.

Georgia is going to calm down... Eventually. It in particular is something that the US and Russia aren't going to have an all-out war over, especially not a nuclear one.

I'd keep on eye on the Middle East still. Several nuclear weapons launched by either India, Pakistan, or both, has been recently modeled showing that even a 'small' exchange like that would seriously disturb weather patterns.

Think long winters, drought, famine, that sort of effect.

So, I guess it doesn't really matter where you are, even if you do move, the effects would be global.

Pakistan is fairly politically unstable at the moment. Their Kashmir disagreement with India isn't going away, either. They came relatively close to a nuclear conflict in 2002.

Interesting Zerbot. Now Switzerland has some tall mountains over there. Switzerland was actually my last choice but maybe I should move it up a notch?

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Ok well change Russia/US to Pakistan and India. Either way if I feel 2 nuclear powers are going to let them rip Im getting the hell to the safest place I can be. This is why I brought up the thread. BTW Im 100% serious. Im really looking at my options.

There's been some great threads on here about what to do when it hits the fan. In your case it depends on mobility and preplanning if you do consider another area other than locally. I don't want to scare you but you should also consider timeframe. Where I am, I always sleep dressed to go. Ever since one of my former dwellings burned down in the middle of the night. A rooming house with no smoke detectors. Call me paranoid and yes I do bathe and change clothes regularly. The only thing I have to quickly grab is footwear. That is my private fear. It will happen in the middle of the night or worse yet, in the winter in the middle of the night. Just be prepared and consider the youngest member of your family and how you can protect and prepare them without instilling fear or traumatizing them. I was in grade school enduring the Cuban missile crisis. I had the advantage of my Dad being a police officer who was usually prepared for anything. Love to you and yours.

Australian outback for me i can safely say. Kimberly more or like.
Plenty of water, canyons and all sorts to keep me happy

Plus its in the middle of nowhere.

I will answer you with all honesty. I am not going to move if US and Russia go head to head. In a "Red Dawn" scenario, I would pick up a weapon and defend my home, family, community, city and state. If somehow I was aware of nuclear launch, I would pack up my dogs and go to my parents house. If it were going to end in fire and flash, I would want my dogs at my feet and my family at my side.

No sense panicing, although there would be some.
No sense crying, even though the tears would probably flood the floor.
No sense swearing, yet you know everyone would loose many.

I would hope for either total survival, or total annihalation. The "in-between" is a horrific nightmare existance to imagine.

The survival tactic that I have planned for myself is the survival of my moral spirit.

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Bear in mind that if a nuclear war seems imminent US airspace will be closed to civilian traffic. That'll limit your freedom of movement right away. So if you're relying on the airlines to make your escape you're going to have to follow the developing international crisis very closely & pick the right moment to flee. If travelling by car ensure you have enough gas for your journey cos that'll be the first thing to dry up in a crisis, panic buying etc. And try to avoid main roads, the authorities might close main roads for military traffic & to control the populace. Don't rely on satnav to get you there either, the government will simply switch off GPS.

I'd avoid continental USA altogether, even mid west rural areas. The fall out from the west coast will travel hundreds, maybe even thousand of miles and make you every bit as vulnerable there. Think the nuclear planners expect the worst of the fall out to be around for about two weeks before you'll be able to safely go outside. So you'll need enough food & water for you & your family for 14 days ... don't leave that too late either. Try and acquire enough tinned food to get you past that, start now actually, a few extra cans in your weekly shop won't break the bank.

Head south I reckon. Mexico, Central America or still further south if you possibly can. Or north into Canada if that's your only option. Take items you can barter for food, water & gas (your dollar won't be buying much if the USA is in ruins). And take a gun or three. And enough ammo to protect you & yours.

If you manage to escape safely you can then make plans for your new life. Forget the USA altogether, it'll take decades to re-build. Australia & New Zealand might be attractive options, maybe Brazil & Argentina too. In fact move now. Human nature being what it is there's every likelehood that nuclear weapons will be used during your own lifetime, it's nothing short of miraculous that they haven't been used during the last 50/60 years.

Bit fatalist, huh ?

Nuclear bombs however big and destructive they are, their not as big as they are in movies, I have seen in a movie a single nuke destroy all of africa, that is simply not true If a nuke with the yield of 100 mega ton exploded in Los Angeles, People in san diego would never know about it, other than the news and the obvious aftermath. The fire ball of a 100mt has a radios of about 10 miles, The after math of a nuke or nukes is more deadly than the initial bomb itself, if the russians launched 100 nukes at the us and they all hit the west and east coast you would never feel the effects of fallout from them if you are in central U.S. You will however feel the effects of no government, you will have to survive on your own, no grociery stores no best buy no nothing. As i said the bombs wont destroy the country but the aftermath very well could.

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I wouldn't leave the U.S. I like it here in idaho. The mountains are tall, have lots of wild game for food, and plenty of caves to live in. Fairchild AFB is no longer a target because it is only used as a re-fueling depot. There are no target areas within 100 miles of me.

You can't pick up your weapon and defend your country, what will you do shoot the nuke?

The best thing to do if you live in a huge city is go out of town to a small city. Chances are you will not get hit. If a nuke lands near your city then seal off your home immediately and stay inside for 6-7 days.

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It sounds like you're living in your own private Idaho! (sorry, couldn't resist). Uh, it's a song...

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I live in DENVER. If there is going to be a mushroom-cloud over the DNC, I bet it will be very pretty, as it is always pretty here during this time of year (all year! I love COLORADO! Although it is raining like OREGON today).

My options are praying that I-70 is not closed. I have all the survival gear I need. I've been buying on can of canned food every time I shop, for some months now. It is quite the supply.

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Your welcome to join me up here, theres plenty of room
I used to live in Greeley, but moved because the crime was getting worse and i like smaller towns anyway.

Well, here in Alberta is no good, we're pretty much living in oil land, we have hockey teams that prove that. We have the Edmonton "Oil" Kings, and Edmonton "Oil"ers. So I can see a terrorist attack, or get bombed one of these days on these oil refineries. In Fort McMurray and of course the one somewhere in Edmonton. Which will therefore increase the oil and gas price and lower our economy and the U.S economy even more. Yup, we plan to ecape to one of our friend's farms which is closer to the "OIL REFINERY!!!" T_T

If a nuclear war broke out between Russia & USA. I'm going to eastern california in non targeted area

Originally posted by mybigunit
Im putting this in the survival thread and please mirthfulme dont move this. It belongs here because this has to do with the biggest of all survival questions. If a nuclear war looks like it is going to break where the hell am I going to take my family. Lately I have thought about this (after this whole Georgia deal) and I have really come up with 3 locations.

A. Right in the heartland of the US Iowa. I like here because there is little population and bases which makes for little use to nuke. Not only that wind is big which could blow away any prevailing fallout.

B. Some misc Caribbean Island. My mentality is once again the wind and the fact that who the hell is going to nuke some small Caribbean Island.

C. Switzerland. For some reason Switzerland never gets hit in all the wars and part of that reason is because that is where all the money and power of the world play.

Those are my three places to go if it looks like a nuke war is going to break. People this is about survival and we have to be realistic here. This is no sit-x if this really happens our areas that we can go to and actually survive will be VERY minimal. Then again there may be no place to go to survive. Fill me in.

I think our time would be better spent making sure a nuclear war doesn't happen...by any means necessary.

Switzerland, Basel to be exact, is probably a good choice, imo.

The Central Bank of the Central Banks is located there.


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