White Americans to be minority by 2042

Originally posted by jakyll
reply to post by Grand Puba

 

If whites (euro and arab) had not finally got a foothold in africa after 100's of years of african resistance, africa would be the top country on the planet with their wealth of natural resources!

1st.Africa is not a country,its a continent made up of 100's of different peoples who,as far as history shows,have never been unified as one.

2nd.The African people did not resist as much as you like to think.Many kingdoms traded with whites and arabs,this included people who were either enemies they had conquered,poor people they wanted to get rid of or criminals.Others were people captured by fellow Africans so they could be sold into slavery.

The Atlantic slave trade is the most well known in history,but Muslim countries benefited from this trade too and for about 10 centuries.


I do agree that many of the problems in some of the African countries stem from white people,but it is there own kind that keep some of them in that state.For example,
Huge amounts of aid don't reach there destinations because despots and tyrants steal it all for themselves and their armies.






[edit on 17-8-2008 by jakyll]

Africa was invaded by whites (1st arab muslims and then europeans) there were many wars from non-muslim black africans to repel the whites that lasted for hundreds of years!

The whitemans use of guns and disease turned the tide and made way for colonialism!

This is why there is such severe proverty which has led to cannibalism and warlords at every turn!


Peace!

Originally posted by Grand Puba
And you said that africans during the slave trade had to fear cannibalism! Give me proof of that and not proof of cannibalism in the current day!

LOL...so you think it is happening NOW but it was NOT happening before?

The site I linked as a lot of cannibalism stories from various cultures/countries. If they were practicing cannibalism in some areas with regularity do you REALLY think they were not also keeping slaves? Does it make sense to you that you could eat your neighbor but not turn your neighbor into a slave?

I read it on one of those links, you can find it yourself if you actually think one happened without the other. I believe the story was about how slaves being fed before being loaded onto ships sometimes freaked out, because slaves held for sale received very little food (keep in mind there were lots of slave buyers, white, arab, and african as well), and they thought they were being fattened up.

I find the modern day accounts to be more interesting, common sense says they didn't just start the practice and it has been around for a very long time. And it does appear it is often ritual, not due to famine.

en.wikipedia.org...

Cannibalism has been reported in several recent African conflicts, including the Second Congo War, and the civil wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone. A U.N. human rights expert reported in July 2007 that sexual atrocities against Congolese women go 'far beyond rape' and include sexual slavery, forced incest, and cannibalism.[71] This may be done in desperation, as during peacetime cannibalism is much less frequent;[72] at other times, it is consciously directed at certain groups believed to be relatively helpless, such as Congo Pygmies, even considered subhuman by some other Congolese.[73] It is also reported by some that witch doctors sometimes use the body parts of children in their medicine. In the 1970s the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin was reputed to practice cannibalism.[74][75]

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

reply to post by Grand Puba

Africa was invaded by whites (1st arab muslims and then europeans) there were many wars from non-muslim black africans to repel the whites that lasted for hundreds of years!

Are Muslims white?

1st contact with whites involved exploration,trade and commercial exploitation.

It was actually at the end of the slave trade (late 19th century) when colonialism of the African continent truly started.


As is typical of those in power,they come they take,they f**k things up then they leave.(kinda like now with Afghanistan and Iraq.)

But there is a large majority people out there who are trying hard to change things for the better,they are working to help African countries become stabilized,productive etc.

This is why there is such severe proverty which has led to cannibalism and warlords at every turn!

A lot of poverty comes from debt.
It amazes me that a**hole politicians of America and Europe expect 3rd world countries to pay off their debts.
With what!?!

The handful of countries that have had debt canceled have actually started to progress,so it would make sense to do that with all the others too.








[edit on 17-8-2008 by jakyll]

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by Grand Puba
And you said that africans during the slave trade had to fear cannibalism! Give me proof of that and not proof of cannibalism in the current day!

LOL...so you think it is happening NOW but it was NOT happening before?

The site I linked as a lot of cannibalism stories from various cultures/countries. If they were practicing cannibalism in some areas with regularity do you REALLY think they were not also keeping slaves? Does it make sense to you that you could eat your neighbor but not turn your neighbor into a slave?

I read it on one of those links, you can find it yourself if you actually think one happened without the other. I believe the story was about how slaves being fed before being loaded onto ships sometimes freaked out, because slaves held for sale received very little food (keep in mind there were lots of slave buyers, white, arab, and african as well), and they thought they were being fattened up.

I find the modern day accounts to be more interesting, common sense says they didn't just start the practice and it has been around for a very long time. And it does appear it is often ritual, not due to famine.

en.wikipedia.org...

Cannibalism has been reported in several recent African conflicts, including the Second Congo War, and the civil wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone. A U.N. human rights expert reported in July 2007 that sexual atrocities against Congolese women go 'far beyond rape' and include sexual slavery, forced incest, and cannibalism.[71] This may be done in desperation, as during peacetime cannibalism is much less frequent;[72] at other times, it is consciously directed at certain groups believed to be relatively helpless, such as Congo Pygmies, even considered subhuman by some other Congolese.[73] It is also reported by some that witch doctors sometimes use the body parts of children in their medicine. In the 1970s the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin was reputed to practice cannibalism.[74][75]

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

All colors of man have indulged in cannibalism! You said that blacks should thank whites for slavery because they would have been eaten! I've asked you to provide evidence that cannibalism of slaves was a widespread threat!

You have yet to do so!


Peace!

Originally posted by jakyll
reply to post by Grand Puba

 

Africa was invaded by whites (1st arab muslims and then europeans) there were many wars from non-muslim black africans to repel the whites that lasted for hundreds of years!

Are Muslims white?

1st contact with whites involved exploration,trade and commercial exploitation.

It was actually at the end of the slave trade (late 19th century) when colonialism of the African continent truly started.


As is typical of those in power,they come they take,they f**k things up then they leave.(kinda like now with Afghanistan and Iraq.)

But there is a large majority people out there who are trying hard to change things for the better,they are working to help African countries become stabilized,productive etc.

This is why there is such severe proverty which has led to cannibalism and warlords at every turn!

A lot of poverty comes from debt.
It amazes me that a**hole politicians of America and Europe expect 3rd world countries to pay off their debts.
With what!?!

The handful of countries that have had debt canceled have actually started to progress,so it would make sense to do that with all the others too.








[edit on 17-8-2008 by jakyll]

I never said all muslims were white, but I said africa was invaded by whites! 1st arab muslims and then europeans!

Other than that, I agree with everything you stated here!

Peace!

Originally posted by Grand Puba I've asked you to provide evidence that cannibalism of slaves was a widespread threat!

You have yet to do so!

Alright fine, here you go. If you do not like THIS evidence please provide some credible sources that clearly state slaves were NOT eaten in Africa.

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The heart of Africa is being rapidly depopulated in consequence of the enormous deathroll caused by the barbarous slave-trade. It is not merely the bondage which slavery implies that should appeal to the sympathies of the civilised world: it is the bloodshed, cruelty, and misery which it involves.

During my residence in Central Africa I was repeatedly travelling about in the villages along the Congo River and its almost unknown affluents, and in every new village I was confronted by fresh evidences of the horrible nature of this evil. I did not seek to witness the sufferings attendant upon this traffic in humanity, but cruelties of all kinds are so general that the mere passing visits which I paid brought me in constant contact with them...

At Lukolela... I had hardly settled down in my encampment when I was introduced to one of those horrible scenes of bloodshed which take place frequently in all the villages along the Congo, and which will be enacted so long as the life of a slave is counted as naught, and the spilling of his blood of as little account as that of a goat or a fowl. In this particular instance the mother of a chief having died, it was decided, as usual, to celebrate the event with an execution....

From E. J. Glave, 'The Slave Trade in the Congo Basin' in The Century Magazine, April 1890

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Soon after the Station of Equator was established, the residents discovered that a wholesale human traffic was being carried on by the natives of the district between this station and Lake M'Zumba. The captains of the steamers have often assured me that whenever they try to buy goats from the natives, slaves are demanded in exchange; the natives often come aboard with tusks of ivory with the intention of buying a slave, complaining that meat is now scarce in their neighbourhood.

Rev. W. Holman Bentley (Baptist Missionary Society), Pioneering on the Congo, TRS, 1900 (2 vols.)

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It was only among the Fang that Du Chaillu encountered positive evidence of cannibalism; but when he received a formal visit from the king of the Apingi (Pan 1), the latter immediately handed over to him a bound slave, with the remark, 'Kill him for your evening meal; he is tender and fat, and you must be hungry.' This incident must not be taken as proving that cannibalism existed among the Apingi. The coastal natives saw many slaves receiving food in depots ('barracoons') while awaiting shipment; and reports of this, filtering through to remote districts, had given rise to the belief that Negrids were fattened before being exported to serve as food for Europeans. Fear of this fate was, indeed, one of the miseries suffered by the slaves in the depots.

John R. Baker, Race, Oxford, 1974; Athens, Ga, 1981

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They divided up their human booty and kept them, tied up and starving, until they were fortunate enough to catch some more and so make up a cargo worth taking to the Mobangi. When times were bad, these poor starving wretches might often be seen tied up, just kept alive with the minimum of food. A party would be made up and two or three canoes would be filled with these human cattle. They would paddle down the Lulongo, cross the main river when the wind was not blowing, make up the Mobangi and sell their freight in some of the towns for ivory. The purchasers would then feed up their starvelings until they were fat enough for the market, then butcher them and sell the meat in small joints. What was left over, if there was much on the market, would be dried on a rack over the fire, or spitted, and the end of the spit stuck in the ground by a slow fire, until it could be kept for weeks and sold at leisure.

Rev. W. Holman Bentley (Baptist Missionary Society), Pioneering on the Congo, TRS, 1900 (2 vols.)




[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I am not sure if all these "first" were done in India but I do know that a lot of things like algebra and other things started with people of color and then whites came and destroyed and claimed it as their own. White people are to arrogant in the belief that they invented everything when in fact the foundation for everything they have done was laid down by people of color. While white people were walking around and sleeping in their own waste,picking juniper berries for food and still living in caves, people from Africa to India to China were students at colleges and universities. They were growing food and living in a society governed by laws.

Then the white man came along and destroy everything of these civilized cultures and then claimed what which was good and great as their own.

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by Grand Puba I've asked you to provide evidence that cannibalism of slaves was a widespread threat!

You have yet to do so!

Alright fine, here you go. If you do not like THIS evidence please provide some credible sources that clearly state slaves were NOT eaten in Africa.

------------------------------

The heart of Africa is being rapidly depopulated in consequence of the enormous deathroll caused by the barbarous slave-trade. It is not merely the bondage which slavery implies that should appeal to the sympathies of the civilised world: it is the bloodshed, cruelty, and misery which it involves.

During my residence in Central Africa I was repeatedly travelling about in the villages along the Congo River and its almost unknown affluents, and in every new village I was confronted by fresh evidences of the horrible nature of this evil. I did not seek to witness the sufferings attendant upon this traffic in humanity, but cruelties of all kinds are so general that the mere passing visits which I paid brought me in constant contact with them...

At Lukolela... I had hardly settled down in my encampment when I was introduced to one of those horrible scenes of bloodshed which take place frequently in all the villages along the Congo, and which will be enacted so long as the life of a slave is counted as naught, and the spilling of his blood of as little account as that of a goat or a fowl. In this particular instance the mother of a chief having died, it was decided, as usual, to celebrate the event with an execution....

From E. J. Glave, 'The Slave Trade in the Congo Basin' in The Century Magazine, April 1890

----------------------------------
Soon after the Station of Equator was established, the residents discovered that a wholesale human traffic was being carried on by the natives of the district between this station and Lake M'Zumba. The captains of the steamers have often assured me that whenever they try to buy goats from the natives, slaves are demanded in exchange; the natives often come aboard with tusks of ivory with the intention of buying a slave, complaining that meat is now scarce in their neighbourhood.

Rev. W. Holman Bentley (Baptist Missionary Society), Pioneering on the Congo, TRS, 1900 (2 vols.)

----------------------------------
It was only among the Fang that Du Chaillu encountered positive evidence of cannibalism; but when he received a formal visit from the king of the Apingi (Pan 1), the latter immediately handed over to him a bound slave, with the remark, 'Kill him for your evening meal; he is tender and fat, and you must be hungry.' This incident must not be taken as proving that cannibalism existed among the Apingi. The coastal natives saw many slaves receiving food in depots ('barracoons') while awaiting shipment; and reports of this, filtering through to remote districts, had given rise to the belief that Negrids were fattened before being exported to serve as food for Europeans. Fear of this fate was, indeed, one of the miseries suffered by the slaves in the depots.

John R. Baker, Race, Oxford, 1974; Athens, Ga, 1981

--------------------------------------

They divided up their human booty and kept them, tied up and starving, until they were fortunate enough to catch some more and so make up a cargo worth taking to the Mobangi. When times were bad, these poor starving wretches might often be seen tied up, just kept alive with the minimum of food. A party would be made up and two or three canoes would be filled with these human cattle. They would paddle down the Lulongo, cross the main river when the wind was not blowing, make up the Mobangi and sell their freight in some of the towns for ivory. The purchasers would then feed up their starvelings until they were fat enough for the market, then butcher them and sell the meat in small joints. What was left over, if there was much on the market, would be dried on a rack over the fire, or spitted, and the end of the spit stuck in the ground by a slow fire, until it could be kept for weeks and sold at leisure.

Rev. W. Holman Bentley (Baptist Missionary Society), Pioneering on the Congo, TRS, 1900 (2 vols.)




[edit on 17-8-2008 by Sonya610]

Check my posts and please show me where I have said that cannibalism NEVER took place in africa?

All that info you reprinted came from the link you posted earlier! I went there and read that stuff!

Are those historians or archologists? (Sp)

NO!

You claim that blacks should thank whites for slavery because they would have been eaten, as if that was the norm!

Links to some racist authors don't count!

You have yet to prove your case!


Peace!

Originally posted by spitefulgod

White Americans to be minority by 2042

www.telegraph.co.uk

Higher birth rates among minority residents, especially Hispanics, is accelerating the demographic changes brought by immigration and will lead to an end of the US' white majority around 2042.

(visit the link for the full news article)

I personally don't care except that I must wonder how much of the new majority will be ILLEGAL immigrants.....

Attention Members,

The topic of this thread is White Americans to be minority by 2042.

Please discuss the topic at hand not ancient Egypt, Africa, cannibalism or who invented what.

Further posts that are continuing with off-topic discussion will be removed.

Thank you.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Duzey]

Originally posted by Duzey
Attention Members,

The topic of this thread is White Americans to be minority by 2042.

Please discuss the topic at hand not ancient Egypt, Africa, cannibalism or who invented what.

Further posts that are continuing with off-topic discussion will be removed.

Thank you.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Duzey]

Agreed!

As for the topic? Who cares?

White people will control the money and the resources that really rule society!

Just like south africa!

Peace!

Mod Edit: Off-topic post removed.

Please see my post above.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Duzey]

reply to post by spitefulgod


"Red and Yellow, Black and White, all are precious in His sight."

Any one who doesn't believe that has worse problems than worrying about whether or not they are a minority or majority.

Mod edit: removed off topic post.

Please see my post above.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by Duzey]

This thread is going to be strictly held to the topic.

Please review my post further up the page.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Duzey
This thread is going to be strictly held to the topic.
Please review my post further up the page.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well that would be wonderful, so if anyone brings up past events of any type or historical significance they will be taken down too right?

Seeing as how the topic is about the FUTURE and not about the past, correct?

I think this thread as pretty much run its course but I will certainly inform you if any topics touching on past events surface.

reply to post by Sonya610


If a post is about the topic, it is fine. If the post is not about the topic, it's not.

Things such as those I listed above have nothing to do with the topic.

reply to post by DYepes


This is a big deal though. I forget who put it this way but i remember reading someone saying that this will bring a new idea of prejudice with it in the way that the idea of a "Pure" race will be ridiculous; therefore religious people would become the new minority. I think It was D. Wilcox who said it and of couse he put it more eloquently than i can, but maybe it is worth contributing. Anybody remember the interview i am thinking of, i tried to source it, but i couldn't find it.

reply to post by spitefulgod


What are you talking about... white Americans are already a world minority. The only majorities are Chinese and Indian

-rrr

Yea in Australia there will be no more White people
Maybe we should just create our own white country.
But no doubt that country will be so good that they'll wanna come
*sigh*
Just can't win