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Originally posted by solo32_98
reply to post by traderonwallst
As a matter of fact, I do get my news from ATS. Regularly, I am exposed to very intelligent, independant journalism that one does not find in the MSM. Also, many times news is broken here, first.
And if that's your only response, to belittle the argument to the point of "you must get your information here:" then it truly is a sad day and a sad state of affairs in America and the world.
we are at a point in human history where we MUST adopt and live change. The old paradigms (do you understand that term?) we grew up with do not sustain independance and security for anyone. People, especially the US administration, need to understand that the strength of a people and their culture come from EVERYONE succeeding, not just a few elite money and oil barons.
The world cannot support the kind of empirical attitude of a world super-power that the US has displayed over the past 40 years. Period. End of story.
Independant countries cannot be asked to comply with disastrous, torturous policies with a gun held to their heads.
People need to feel secure knowing the US or Britain or Canada are not going to fabricate some other unseen enemy that might jump out of the bushes as we walk home in the dark.
Governing through fear-mongering MUST end with Bush's departure.
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[edit on 13-8-2008 by solo32_98]
Originally posted by Nola213
The fact that you can sum up 8 years of "work", in basically a couple of paragraphs is a testament to this idiots 2 terms. yes thanks a bunch Dubya...thanks for leaving us with YOUR MESS to clean up.
Thanks for turning your head the other way so many times, and being a scared little wuss. When real men, like JFK would have said no, knowing it would basically cost them thier lives.
I'd like to take a moment and thank our forefathers for thinking ahead and putting in the two terms clause.
The sad thing is now, we have to look forward to 4 years of either McCain or Obama. But hey, at least it can't get worse.
[edit on 13-8-2008 by Nola213]
Originally posted by solo32_98
And a BIG thank you to ATS'ers who submit reality check posts to threads like this and do not idly and feebly tow the party line of weak minded sheeple spouting utter BS regarding a man that represents the absolute lowest possible denominator in human potential.
Originally posted by tyranny22
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Why all the Clinton rhetorics? I thought this thread was about Bush. Yeah, Bush sucks, Clinton sucked, Bush sucked even before Clinton, Regan sucked.
Originally posted by tyranny22
reply to post by traderonwallst
And for all those (including the OP) that KEEP referring to Saddam Hussein as a "Dictator", GOOGLE the damned term! Or better yet, search Saddam Hussein on Wikipedia! He was not a DICTATOR! He was a democratically elected President. I've seen too many people here that are taking objection to the OP that keep agreeing that he was a dictator. Bush was responsible for the trial and hanging of a democratically elected President of a foreign nation that had done no harm to any nation since the first Gulf War. Even then, it was questionable if he'd done any harm (other than taking disputed oil fields in Kuwait that were attempting to draw off of Iraq's oil) to any other nation, except his own. In fact, he's had more dealing with the United States (and some in this administration) than most would ever believe ... or at least don't want to believe.
And for more corrected statements by the OP please refer to my previous post.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by tyranny22
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Why all the Clinton rhetorics? I thought this thread was about Bush. Yeah, Bush sucks, Clinton sucked, Bush sucked even before Clinton, Regan sucked.
Really? Honestly, Reagan was the last decent president we had.
Originally posted by devareous
All you armchair presidents critisizing bush,I dont think for one moment any of you could have done better.you dont even know what the @!#@! is going on,you dont know what intel the president has o deal with on a day to day bases.You ever wonder why they go in with regular colored hair and always come out with white/grey hair,think about it.We have a whole world that wants in one way or another to see us fail,and wants the usa to fall and be a super power nomore,so they can.Dont critisize a man till you have walked in his shoes.