The "Truth" of Billy Meier [HOAX], what they don't want you to know...

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
The photo of a pterodactyl that turned out to be a painting taken from a book and the photo of the "Pleiadian" that turned out to be a picture of a TV broadcast showing of one of Dean Martin's dancers was enough for me. There's no reason to trust and believe Billy Meier after that.

As they say, "Fool me once..."

-Meier has never claimed the pterodactyl photo were real. So he never fooled anybody there with that picture.

reply to post by Dklanan


What a pile of S**T. Michael Horn always goes on about "poor old Billy the innocent" but meier is a hoaxer and a fraud through and through and if anyone can't blatantly see that there's no hope for their mentality until they themselves grow up. Horn is SO devious he posts this kind of crap to get people to sympathise with a guy who only ever wanted to get noticed as someone special which he is not. Get the violins out! Meier has a mental problem alright and Horn is wasting everyones time with it.

Originally posted by Morlam
reply to post by Dklanan

 

What a pile of S**T. Michael Horn always goes on about "poor old Billy the innocent" but meier is a hoaxer and a fraud through and through and if anyone can't blatantly see that there's no hope for their mentality until they themselves grow up. Horn is SO devious he posts this kind of crap to get people to sympathise with a guy who only ever wanted to get noticed as someone special which he is not. Get the violins out! Meier has a mental problem alright and Horn is wasting everyones time with it.

Obviously a very emotional reply. Well, that it is a hoax is only your personal interpretation. In my opinion, if you consider the complete and correct context of the total acccumulation of evidence one can only come to the conclusion that at least the evidence is very difficult to hoax.

I have studied the the case for a year now. Wanted to believe what B.M was saying, as a videographer I saw some flaws in his films, especially the footage of the ships disappearing or "Jumping". We need more evidence!!!!

Originally posted by the mist
I have studied the the case for a year now. Wanted to believe what B.M was saying, as a videographer I saw some flaws in his films, especially the footage of the ships disappearing or "Jumping". We need more evidence!!!!

Some aspects of his films seem very difficult to fake like the 1976 Bachtehorni segment in which the UFO has no wobbling motion and jumps while the clouds in the background remain the same etc. And also delicately is eclipsed by the hill. The data in the case is filled with extreme hard and weak evidence. IMO it's the result of the strategy of the ETs. Meier's contactors aren't interested in open contact and direct proof they do however present proof for conscious and spiritual evolutional progress that eventually may also lead to open ET contact.

Originally posted by Indigo_Child
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Prophecies cannot be predicted very accurately. Billy Meier mentioned 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2011 as the starting date. The first possible dates have passed, leaving 2010 and 2011. That's only up to 2 years for you(Personally, I think it will start in November 2010) to wait.

So there is no need debating this with me. You will find out either way come 2010-2012.

[edit on 23-4-2009 by Indigo_Child]

Just a reminder that 2010 has passed, and 2011 has halfway passed, still now WW3.The eruption of Mount Vesivius also didn't happen as you claimed. The prophecies didn't happen.

Is this enough to convince you that this is a hoax?

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So you wont get into trouble for posting on here but you will for showing proof! Hmm, you should'nt have
bothered to post then cause only a fool will believe you! I believe that there are Aliens and i think they have
visited earth but i don't think they would be making friends with us cause that would be like one of us making friends with a bug! Though we need to keep an open mind we need to also be realistic. When we take everyone
for their word we get a mess like we're in right now economically! I want to know why these so called paladians
have not revealed themselves to the masses? Why are they hiding if they are such good friends to humanity?
Why don't they help us to bring peace to the earth? Because there are no aliens that give a damn about humanity!
We are to them like an ant hill is to us! Wake up people!

G'day folks

If you look at the stars and yearn you need to consider looking deeper as there is a reason you do this:

Consider this

1st Most debunkers here are upset Billy Meier has debunked them eh eh

2nd For others Plato's cave allegory would apply
www.mlahanas.de...






3rd you always get government trolls on ufo topics, you know anything ufo gets that, they have software that allows them to be as many people as they want easily.

that reminds me, we all know Al Ciada cover ups, if you read into it Al Ciada did some Houdini tricks with the photos placing some dodgy ones amongst the many, i mean think mate, Billy would be prime target numero uno

As we approach the dawn of the age of reason many people are at this level of evolution: We are chained to the belief that there are no alternatives. It is only when we are dragged up to the entrance of the cave that the light of day begins to blind us and hurt us. That is the struggle... to keep from seeing the truth

Its not until you get to read the Spirit Teachings that YOU KNOW its the Truth and learn the primal forces of all knowledge and a lot more, you can sense the abilities of expression and DEPTH in Billy are out of this world, if you seek you will find, here is a good start
www.futureofmankind.co.uk...

777if you just look at ufo stuff its my honest opinion your not ready for the message/s anyway777

proper meditation is important for humans, its how we connect to the Creation's energy/knowledge
ca.figu.org...

we are told the universe is sterile but for earth eh eh
as unimaginably old and immense the universe is they say microbes might (might) live on other planets eh eh
and they know otherwise,we are on quarantine to stop our religions spreading the madness, even star men can be gullible, 2000 years ago ufo's, giants, dwarfs and many human types where here, its in folklore and art

we are told all the races/cultures evolved from Africa

The instrument of knowledge can only by the movement of the whole soul be turned from the world of becoming into that of being, and learn by degrees to endure the sight of being, and of the brightest and best of being, or in other words, of the good.

If you are religious some of the things you can learn from Billy are we come from The Universe (The Creation) not one of the gods, the gods where men so was satan, they died and stayed dead, they are deceased. We re-incarnate we dont die and goto heaven or hell, Heaven and hell are not places they are inside us.

Our Spirit is The Creation

If its not for you thats OK with me, you can only lead a horse to water
ca.figu.org...

i have no affiliation with anyone i spent some time reading the thread and doing this post out of concern for my fellow man, especially my American mates who are without a leader.

Salome
ilovebilly

Hello All,

I've been looking around the Forums and have discovered an interesting factoid WRT the Billy Meier organizations methodology: Everyone gets the same junk. It's formula scripting, different computers, different user names, the same language, and eventually the same message, shoving the Meier/FIGU religious BS down everyone's throats. Just thought you'd like to know.

G'day Folks

Some Plejaren/ Meier snippets i found interesting, from memory

man is not from the ape, skulls from apes where sanded to make it seem true, fame being the desire. Ask to see the (Darwins) skulls they wont show them as modern technology can detect the sanding
(try and get the skulls tested with modern equipment, you cant get near them)

yeti,sasqach,bunyip, abominable snowman etc.. exist, it is primitive man
a guy is filming them with night vision using sweet things honey etc.. as a lure, youtube

Loch Ness exists, Nessy

we know there are advanced mammals but claim no advanced plants, there are advanced plants here on earth, some plants also colonise space with seeds expelled by natural forces.

Some waste residue left by prehistoric atomic blasts may be found in Monument Valley, Arizona, the Bakaa Valley in Lebanon, most of the West Australian Desert, and northwest of Cuenca, Ecuador, and there are more... Death Valley and Fire Valley near the city of Las Vegas is another witness to the past and timeless atomic insanity of the Earth human being. eastern slopes of the Andes a few dozen miles northeast of Cuenca, Ecuador. Sodom and Gomorra

science dosnt see this and its not that hard to detect: there are particles escaping every nuclear reactor that build up on the dark side of the planet and follow the darkness, ozone holes fluctuate from this, these particles just zip straight through any reactor wall.

you are meant to live 1000 years, we dont even mature until 70, the aging and aggression genes where tinkered with in our past, the beings described in ancient greek texts lived, the gene for aging will be fixed soon, the animals/beings will be recreated

people as tall as 36 feet have lived on earth

do you really think Asian and Caucasian and American Indian et al evolved so fast from Africa

there are things that live in space, to have life evolve you mainly need a stable environment

there are beings called rods who visit earth in our dimension/time
google: ufo rods

plants give off ultraviolet light humans cant detect but insects and animals can

all the nuclear reactors on the planet can be shut down (meltdown) for years from (one) solar storm, fukushima was just power couldnt be provided to cooling systems, large solar storms would wipe out circuits at the manufacturing plants also e.g. generator manufacture. We havnt had them long but better learn soon

cold fusion is real google: Rossi cold fusion

there is no god equation, you have 2 the micro (quantum) and macro

our universe is one of trillions
our universe has a twin

all things are explained by nature

the Plejaren wrote Star Trek and Star Wars thats what its like, they are like us some good some bad some like us some not, we are meant to be like Captain Kirk with Spocks logic and No fear.
We learn from bad and good so have reverence and venerability for both, fear is good for nothing

the difference is they dont have religion, they know the Spirit stands outside of time, there is a continuity of the Spirit during every incarnation which bridges all times. All lifetimes of the Spirit are integrated by the Spirit in the endless NOW of Creation. Wisdom is carried forward to Creation as the Spirit Evolves.

Akashic records are true, its magnetic energy, meditation is howto access it
with meditation you also get energy

we need to be neutral with a slight positive bent for evolution as we can be negative and go backwards or be to positive and become megalomaniacs

we only work with half of science with NO Spirit knowledge:
here are a few mind/eye openers people wont know and i know you will realise are true, you know all things have an opposite right?

then why dont we here about bellow from science:
there is an opposite to black holes, repels
there is an opposite to suns: black suns that shine darkness!
there are opposites to explosions, with many repercussions for most science especially energy production

the peace symbol we use is upside down

Tunguska explosion in 1908 was quarantine measures (space craft self destructed) Russians have found space ship parts and certain isotopes at ground zero, google it
space ship had a crew of 4000

life is about evolution, we are in the material world to evolve, we dont evolve in the spirit realms its done here, DNA/spirit evolution

we change our DNA with thoughts/spirit and tones

hair is a cosmic energy collector, google why indians where really used in ww2, the code talkers where really psychic they have more psy abilities until they cut their hair off in service

music can be damaging or good, you can sense it
try and use natural lighting when possible

i know people are in Plato's cave and will be upset and i must respect that
its for those who are facing the light
i can post links to more info on these snippets, or just google it e.g. dna ageing gene found

Salome
ilovebilly

Originally posted by mister.old.school

Originally posted by Dklanan
I am a close friend of Billy Meier

Perhaps you could be so kind as to ask Mr. Meier why he attempted to pass off a toy as an "alien ray gun"? The details of the exposed hoax can be reviewed at your leisure here; Billy Meier UFO Contact Hoax(?) Discussion (was raygun pics)

hah beat me to it

my favorite pic of the past 15 years on the internet. laughed so hard the first time I saw it it sent it to everyone I knew. good times

Hello All,

Yep just like the other thread. Religion again.

This doesn't belong in the Hoax forum.. Silly Sheeple. You'll know one day.

Hello Sinny,

Originally posted by Sinny
This doesn't belong in the Hoax forum.. Silly Sheeple. You'll know one day.

It belongs in the religious Forum; OR the white supremist Forum (if there is such a thing)- take your pick. I mean, the agents use real unretouched photos of hoaxes so it belongs in the Hoax Forum. BUT! that is only a ruse to eventually bring up the Meier/FIGU religion. BUT! THAT then is only a ruse to promote white supremacy. It's not complicated as much as it is deviously layered. Nasty business.

Originally posted by Nohup
I blame the Pleaidians. If they didn't want Meier to get all kinds of crap from people, all they have to do is give him some incontrovertible proof of their alien existence that can be tested and re-tested to everyone's satisfaction. And it would be simple for them to do, if they existed.

As it is, they just hung him out to dry with a bunch of "evidence" that is questionable at best, so he has to make excuse after excuse. Nice friends. If this is what we can expect of these aliens, maybe it's better they stay away.

So don't blame us. Blame those danged aliens. I want the evidence to be good! But I'm not going to be a sucker about it. For instance, in this photo montage you posted...



How is it possible for the exact same tree, filmed at basically the same angle, to have two entirely different backgrounds? Is the same tree in two different locations? Is it some kind of walking tree?

[edit on 11-8-2008 by Nohup]

Yes, and what is that saucer doing so close to the tree in both shots? Looks like they could crash if they're not careful. In the second one it almost looks like they're touching.

OH! I get it! They are using the weed-whacker attachment, right?

Billy Meier story comes across as a fake! fake! fake!
The reason being is that if hes getting all these attacks why doesnt his pleadians friends come help him.

reply to post by Sinny


You saying you believe this Meier character?

reply to post by Dklanan


Beside the point if Billy is telling the truth to you....Has it ever crossed your mind that he has been using your friendship to continue his lies... I know from first hand that a person you considered a trustworthy friend, a friend so close that you would trust him to watch over your children, turns out to be a lier and worse than a cockroach.

As previous was writen by a fellow ATS member, why did he not end the accusations with showing the world some alien technology or something else which would vote in his favour? That is a logical step what most of us would do when your own good name, intension and credibillity needs to be proven. if 'they'would refuse to help me out I would end my publications on the matter and willing to confess that it was all a hoax and go on with my life from where I left off. F*&c that and the aliens with it !!

I am sure that you are old enough to know that people of all walks of life are willing to sell their mother for money, recognition and fame.....betraying a friend would be a small price to pay for such people.

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I will assume for a moment you really are a close friend of BM, everything you said about him could be found on the web in books and papers for many years. The idea that some intelligence agency would sneak into His house, open up photo albums and boxes and then plant fake photos of his obvious fake photos is stupid. Now if He is a friend of your you are being treated like trash, just how he has treated everyone. The man is a con and a bad one at that, those pictures are so pathetic that any child today could do a better job. Piles of people have come forward to say he was full of crap, all sorts of family and friends. His excuse is they replaced his photos with fakes, yet he has zero evidence for that. This is the worst excuse I have ever heard of