Planet X & Nibiru - PREPARE

reply to post by zorgon


Looks like UB313 will not get any closer to the Earth than, Neptune...assuming that's the orbital track I see UB313 seem to come close to intercepting?

SO, I don't see how this UB313 has anything at al to do with the Niburu theories?

So, I assume 'preparation' amounts to....doing nothing? Whew! Glad I stocked up!

not another niburu thread -.-

The chances of a giant planet commin remotely close to ours = slim to none. You would think, seeing as how at times mars is visable to the naked eye, that a gynormus planet would be easily seen years before it gets here. Not to mention the fact that it's claimed to have been threw our solar system once already, but I have news for you. If a planet of that size came threw our solar system, the gravitational pull would have raped everything from the sun to pluto. As someone once said here at ATS, "don't be so open minded that your brains fall out"

reply to post by Xilvius

Well, I have to say, of all the debunkers, your slim to none comment is the equivalent to saying it will happen. When you talk about the orbits planets take, and the precision involved in each of their orbits, slim to none would be all that should be required.

Yes or no. No wimpy "maybe"s in debunking.

reply to post by chetinglendalevillage


Im sorry I wasn't clear, let me specify:


In my opinion people who think niburu will crash into earth or whatever on 2012 aren't very bright, that's a strong NO my friend. I was being respectful in my earlier post, but to make sure my opinion is clear, niburu = #!%#ing stupid idea.

Originally posted by Xilvius
If a planet of that size came threw our solar system, the gravitational pull would have raped everything from the sun to pluto.

But it already did once... knocked the earth out of orbit... destroyed the other planet that is now the asteroid belt... and cause rock chunks to fly all about leaving craters on every planet and moon... stripped the air and water off Mars

Earth was closer to the sin, had a cloud covering... when it got bumped out of orbit it moved further out got colder and the clouds fell as rain flooding the Earth... :The Sun stood still in the Heavens" the story goes...

All the animals and people they could save were place on the cube ship of the original Noah, Utnapishtim

It was actually a huge 'Ark in Space' Before the flood the live spans of people were 800 plus years but after they were barely 100 years because now the cosmic rays from space got through as theri was no cloud cover...

Even the Bible says there were more than two of each animal that got on the ark ...

Too bad no one pays attention to what really happened...


that ought to keep you busy for a spell



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reply to post by zorgon


Z....just guessing, with so much cloud cover.....everyone was pasty white....no Sunlight to tan the skin?

Well, I personally think a more attractive appearance, of a human, is a slightly 'tanned' look. Alas, I seem to be a 'throwback'....Irish, light brown hair, burn, no tan.....losing my hair.

AND, I have seen that blue eyes are likely, as a genetic trait, going to be gone within just several generations. Not sure about Green eyes (they are So beautiful!). I'm Hazel, where do I fall??? Guess, I'm doomed.....

Oh well....life is tough.....

Keep me busy? You couldn't prove any of that if you wanted to. If you expect me to believe the smallest bit of that you have another thing comming. If it had come threw at the time of the so called ' noah and his ark' there would be no way in hell it would be possible to survive an event of that magnitude. For two, I highly doubt that a planet was reduced to the astroid belt, because I'd think if a planet crashed into another they would both be smashed into giant bits, rather than one of them going unscathed and the other reduced to next to nothing. The whole niburu tale has almost as much credibility as the tooth fairy.

Originally posted by Xilvius
Im sorry I wasn't clear, let me specify:

Let me specify... with comments like that you won't last long around here. Please take 5 minutes and read the T&C here... we take them seriously...

Lest Ye incur the dreaded Wrath of Mod...

[edit on 14-8-2008 by zorgon]

I'm sorry I wasn't aware my right to freedom of speech was being trampled all over here. I had declared it was my own opinion and stated that I was also trying to be nice the first time, if someone can't take my kind answer as an answer, then I will resort to being brutally honest. If you don't want my opinions, do not ask for them.

reply to post by Xilvius


Thank you, X.....is there REALLY enough mass, in the 'Asteroid Belt', to account for a full planet ('Fifth Planet from the Sun')?

Well....it is a puzzle....since there SHOULD be a planet there, and why in the heck are all those rocks there????

BUT, sorry Z....it's hard to imagine a stable Solar System just within the last 5000 years....as your story would allege, given your scenario.

Perhaps you need to tell us more??? BUT, as far as I know of the current understanding of 'recorded' Human history, and Civilizations....these kinds of Astronomical events jsut could not have happened, in the time-frame postulated...unless there was some sort of 'Divine Intervention'....then, all bets are off.

Thanks....hope you can tell us more!!

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Z....just guessing, with so much cloud cover.....everyone was pasty white....no Sunlight to tan the skin?

AH Herr Weedwacker There is hope for you yet you have seen the light I am proud of you...

Egyptians back then... Ever try working out in the sun in the desert? All day long working with stone wearing only a skirt? And still staying white and smooth skinned?



King Tut




Modern Egyptian worker... Heavy clothing and head warp to protect from burning sun and dehydration and dark skin

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Thank you, X.....is there REALLY enough mass, in the 'Asteroid Belt', to account for a full planet ('Fifth Planet from the Sun')?

You forget to add the mass of all the meteorites and asteroids that have hit the Earth, Moon Mars Mercury etc and the swarmed of meteor showers and comets and space dust...

Well....it is a puzzle....since there SHOULD be a planet there, and why in the heck are all those rocks there????

Good question... One day soon I shall show you the orbital mechanics involved in my 'theory' Well its not mine really , but Ancient Tibetan... but that is another matter...

BUT, sorry Z....it's hard to imagine a stable Solar System just within the last 5000 years....as your story would allege, given your scenario.

Except that MY version is not limited to the timescale given in the Bible and recent dig in Turkey and India are backing up the fact that the time scale we believe is incorrect... You see MY sources put the Pyramid (of Giza) to be over 10,ooo.oo years old...

Perhaps you need to tell us more??? BUT, as far as I know of the current understanding of 'recorded' Human history, and Civilizations....these kinds of Astronomical events jsut could not have happened, in the time-frame postulated...unless there was some sort of 'Divine Intervention'....then, all bets are off.

"in the time-frame postulated..." Precisely

Thanks....hope you can tell us more!!

Oh indubitably yes... but right now I am working on the OTHER tether satellite

reply to post by zorgon


You are a funny man....I've been to Egypt.

It is a desert....not unlike other deserts, one I used to reside in....which is being 'terraformed'....Phoenix.

BUT, I thought once, before humans evolved....Northern Africa was tropical???

Anyway....human beings require vitamin D. D can be produced (unlike C) within the body, from sunlight. Other sources (assuming you don't have Cow's milk) is from seafood.

Our epidermis can use sunlight, through the skin (don't ask me how) to produce vitamin D. Those in more northen (or southern) latitudes, thusly don't need much melanin. More Equatorial Regions....more melanin....the skin regulates the production of D.

Lots of seafood consumption....thus more D.....then skin can darken....hence, Eskimos!!!

Simplistic.....but not made up, it's science.

reply to post by zorgon


Saw more of your response, to my post.

I've seen the postulation of the (I assume you mean all THREE of the pyramids, at Giza) being very older than is currently claimed. IN FACT, when you add in the Sphinx....all part of the 'complex' of Giza....facts get muddied.
(no pun...it refers to the erosion, of the Sphinx....in a region where there is very little rain, yet huge signs of water erosion.....or, millenia more of sand erosion, not sure).

It is very, very intersting....I agree.

EDIT...I just posted this, and realized I had gone WAY off topic...sorry.

It started, as I looked at a good post by Zorgon, showing NB313. NOT a 'Planet X', nor a 'Niburu'....not big enough, nor close enough, to matter to the Earth. A Rogue, maybe from the Guiper region, or not even that far....

There is a better place to discuss Egypt, and ancient history. Maybe a new thread??

WW


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Originally posted by Xilvius
Keep me busy?

Well no I didn't expect it would keep you busy...

You couldn't prove any of that if you wanted to.

Oh but I can...

If you expect me to believe the smallest bit of that you have another thing comming.

No I expect you won't believe anything I say...

If it had come threw at the time of the so called ' noah and his ark' there would be no way in hell it would be possible to survive an event of that magnitude.

What time was the cube ship of the original Noah, Utnapishtim? Do you know?
Do you know who Utnapishtim is? Do you know how many of each animal was on that ark? Do you know how big it was?

For two, I highly doubt that a planet was reduced to the astroid belt, because I'd think if a planet crashed into another they would both be smashed into giant bits, rather than one of them going unscathed and the other reduced to next to nothing.

Do you have facts to support this? what if one was larger made mostly of iron/nickel and the other smaller made of brittle rock? Take a steel ball bearing and toss it at a glass marble and get back to me...

The whole niburu tale has almost as much credibility as the tooth fairy.

I agree with you Nibiru is not a planet... nor is it coming back in 2012, even Sirchin agrees with that...

but the events happened as I stated

One of the problems i have with the whole niburu thing is the theory it will shear by us affecting the whole earth or even nocking it out of our spin causing the earth to stop spinning. I mean, just trying to put my logic to it i would think that there is a far bigger chance it will miss us with millions of miles to spare than that it will be in the aproximate same space at the same time. I mean just listen; why should niburu not be at one side of the sun while it goes through our solarsystem while we are at the other side? Or at least has a distance so great that we will only have a great show here on earth and some irratic weather-patterns that are not to violent.

Why should the orbit of niburu be as such that it will cross our orbit while we are in the neighbourhood?

WOW That was weird I read your post and clicked quote and it changed in the middle

facts get muddied.
(no pun...it refers to the erosion, of the Sphinx....in a region where there is very little rain, yet huge signs of water erosion.....or, millenia more of sand erosion, not sure).

The thing about 'facts' my friend is the source of said facts... Right now if there were ant secrets beneath the Sphinx that say anything other than the Egyptians built it those facts will never see the light of day... I just hope Dr. Zahi Hawass would not destroy such evidence...

There is a better place to discuss Egypt, and ancient history. Maybe a new thread??

Not off topic if its all connected... that is one thing many skeptics try to do is separate things so no one sees the big picture...

The problem today is that people have a death wish and work very hard to look for any scrap in the past to point to the next Doomsday... Not sure what's up with that... Nostradamus was used to say the end was 2000 because no quatrains went past 1999... Now look at his latest predictions here in many threads

Even Discovery channel surprised me with an episode that showed my scenario, even showed the moon being torn out of the pacific leaving the 'ring of fire'

But they messed it up when they had the other object do an about turn and come back for a second pass... Too bad it was right on until then

I wonder where they got their data?

reply to post by Harman


Exactly!!!

Average distance of Earth, from the Sun....93,000,000 miles. Hope this figure is not in dispute?
(hint...about eight light-minutes...)

So, the radus of 93M means the diameter of the orbit is twice, or 186M miles.

365 days for one orbit....odds of encountering this 'rogue' that, likely won't even come anywhere inside of Neptune's orbit....ummmmm next to nothing?

There seems to be a lot of hysteria here, about a very unlikely astronomical event....that would be likely to happen within a human's lifetime.

Steppng back, though....say it IS going to happen....what can YOU do about it???


I've seen claims of underground shelters, for the Elite and NWO types....so, they'll live out their pathetic lives, underground??? The planet Earth, if Doomsdayer's predictions are correct, will be lifeless, on the surface for thousands of years, at the very least!!!!

Is this where the 'Greys' come from? Some twisted clones of Dick Cheny, back from the future??? I'd rather see us all destroyed, thank you very much!!!

Let some other species carry on, if that's what we have to look forward to, as a race!

reply to post by zorgon


Dr. Hawass!!! Yes, he is troubling....and I don't think my posts change....unless I hit the backspace key while typing? That would explain it....anyway, it's late. Nice chatting....

Originally posted by Harman
Why should the orbit of niburu be as such that it will cross our orbit while we are in the neighbourhood?

Wouldn't have to come near us... All it has to do is come through the OORT clouds and drag millions of chunks of rock behind it and pummel the inner planets with another barrage like before...

Here is the OORT cloud...



Larger Planets in Kuiper belt since 2001



Others found before 2001



And what is left of that Planet in the Asteroid Belt the Dwarf Planet Ceres



NASA's Hubble Space Telescope took these images of the asteroid 1 Ceres over a 2-hour and 20-minute span, the time it takes the Texas-sized object to complete one quarter of a rotation. One day on Ceres lasts 9 hours. The bright spot that appears in each image is a mystery. It is brighter than its surroundings. Yet it is still very dark, reflecting only a small portion of the sunlight that shines on it.