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New Leaked Area 51 footage?

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posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:33 PM
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yes sir seawolf your 100% right.
here is the link to the debunking thread. www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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OK thanks, will wait on it cause I'd be interested in seeing who produced those vids and check out their budgets and stuff to see if they could afford the quality that i just saw.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:40 PM
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reply to post by miguelbmx
 


Hey Miguel, thanks for chiming in here, anyway you could help us out here?
with the original vids? i cant get those links to work.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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reply to post by free_spirit
 


Totally agree with your analysis and nice job with the link.

Also, hat tip to Seawolf.

My observations as an experienced Video Editor are now moot.

Will simply add:

1. Obvious use of canned (Plug-ins) Film Scratches / Dirt.

2. Although footage was obviously highly compressed during upload to Youtube, it was obviously video and not film. (No flicker / weave / 3:2 pulldown / "splices" at edit points.) Which I would have expected if it was authentic old footage.

3. The footage was obviously "Blown-up" in post / editorial.
(Possibly to hide "Network Bug / Logo." oops......missed one.
Look at :43 sec in. Upper Right. Brief logo or super that fades out.

Bottom line..........sloppy / amateurish / fake.

regards.......kk


[edit on 10-8-2008 by kinda kurious]



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Conluceo
reply to post by free_spirit
 


Not trying to be a pain but the link keeps telling me its loading a player but it never loads? anyone else having that problem?


JUST FOR FUN ( And if you are not yet convinced )

Here check these two frames from the Youtube hoax and the We show.
Click on image for see it full size.



About the link I gave you give it a little time, it's working fine but somehow
a little slow to load. What kind of computer do you have ? I'll give you
another one comparison ( Just for fun I made it in three minutes )



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:49 PM
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Kinda kurious, thank you for the opinion, i already said that the video was worked on, thats a 100% sure, its a youtube vid for god's sake!


What i was wondering is if anyone can direct me to the supposed show this came from? so I can further validate this internally? like i said, the grain, the glow all that is easy to add in, its the damn aliens I'm having a hard time with.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:51 PM
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Here is the link to the original videos:

WE Alien Abduction True Confessions

I can't get them to load, but I'm pretty sure this is where these aliens come from.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:52 PM
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reply to post by free_spirit
 


Im on a Dell laptop, I shouldn't be having any problems..on the side of the comparison pics , interesting, but I can't wait to see the shows..



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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reply to post by seawolf197
 


Thanks Seawolf, will watch and come back a little later with comments.

sorry for the one liner.

Ok yeah you're right, I cant get them to load either, maybe they thought they were Scott free? lol...


[edit on 10-8-2008 by Conluceo]

[edit on 10-8-2008 by Conluceo]



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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I can't get them to load, but I'm pretty sure this is where these aliens come from.


i cant get them to load either.....weird, the show probably got cancelled.

[edit on 10-8-2008 by miguelbmx]



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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OK, check out the link from Free Spirit..... 100% conclusive in my book.

So stealing footage from a nationally produced network / cable program seems to explain the high production value.

Probably some kid with a Mac and Final Cut or Adobe Premiere.

P.S. Link works fine for me........but I've got a smokin' fat pipe.

regards.....kk

[edit on 10-8-2008 by kinda kurious]

[edit on 10-8-2008 by kinda kurious]



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
reply to post by Conluceo
 


OK, check out the link from Free Spirit..... 100% conclusive in my book.

So stealing footage from a nationally produced network / cable program seems to explain high production value.

Probably some kid with Mac and Final Cut or Adobe Premiere.

regards.....kk


So you see the problem here, one one side you have plagiarism and theft from a show of which we cant get the damning footage from ,lol, or a kid with a mac and final cut? lol, you're playing right? there's a lot one can determine from a production value, trust me.



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by Conluceo
reply to post by free_spirit
 


Im on a Dell laptop, I shouldn't be having any problems..on the side of the comparison pics , interesting, but I can't wait to see the shows..



Here is another comparison I made showing the alleged alien baby. It's
the Youtube and the original. The We tv series were very good with nice
recreations and effects. As usual there are some jokers who copy images
from these type of shows and manipulate the sequences just to fool
people around. I made a superquick tutorial sometime ago about the
making of this hoax based on these tv series.




The hoaxer copied different segments he choose with aliens.
Then he joined the desired sequence and of course removed the audios.
Then he applied a black and white kind of sepia filter to disguise the
hoax giving more realistic look adding some shadows and shinnings
using simple filters.
Then the hoaxer made zoomings and applied a slow motion effect just
to disguise again the trick from the original. Voila!! The kid hoaxer got
his alleged New Leaked Area 51 Alien footage to be uploaded on most
video websites and fool people. Unfortunatelly for him his trick was
discovered and revealed here on ATS sometime ago. Regards.

[edit on 10-8-2008 by free_spirit]



posted on Aug, 10 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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I truly appreciate the effort free_spirit, like i said i have no doubt the youtube video has been played with, no doubt, but i would like to see where it came from so that i can determine the production value of the show, those aliens are high tech puppetry or the real deal, if they are high tech then a supposed hoaxer (?) with what? 100's of thousands of dollars to spend on Alien puppets do this? i wouldn't for 15 minutes of unknown fame, lol, so we are we then?



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 04:09 AM
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this video is not new at all. its an old fake.



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 05:24 AM
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Too many cuts in the footage.

Plus, why does everyone have the same image of the aliens? Big eyes, small mouth and bald.



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Conluceo
reply to post by Acharya
 


OK, if that's the case great but can someone link me to where this information or footage came from? the problem I see is that , I work as creative director for a film company and to put something like this together takes a lot of time and money, this is not amateurish, so who has the time for this? and the money? some kid in a basement with a summer on hand? right..


Interesting. Can you give any proof that you are creative director for a film company?

Who's to say you're not 14 years old and still learning English?

Perhaps you work for a non-English speaking company.

As far as the film goes, I'd say it's exactly the opposite of what you contend and not something costly or done by a professional.

Thanks for your post and have a great day. Stay in school and someday your dreams will come true!



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 08:13 AM
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Actually Badge1 who are you? and to what honor do I owe you any explanation? I have absolutely nothing to prove to you, and really don't care about your opinion because it has absolutely nothing to do with my thread, but please continue to bring those wonderful remarks to ATS, highly enjoyable, and constructive. Take care and move along now.



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Conluceo
Apparently we have some leaked footage of entities or extra terrestrials coming out of Area 51, here's a full minutes worth..I myself don't have an opinion on it, but what do you all think? here you go, enjoy!



www.youtube.com...


Honestly, this is about as real as my third testicle



posted on Aug, 11 2008 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by free_spirit
 


This is sort of pointing to a problem, in the info age in which we currently reside.

Yeah, I could start this as a new 'thread', but will leave it to others.

The issue is: With such prevalence of computer imagery, how will we be able to detect the REAL from the FAKE?

AND I'm not just referring to here, on ATS, or there, on YouTube....nor am I suggesting it's only about what we see in the Mainstream News Media (the MSNM or, MSM).

Here is a point, and better folk than I may wish to start a discussion thread about it...ATS forae have covered this, in various ways....but no one has coalesced them together, as yet.

WITH the prevalence of increasingly better foolery, in videos....how WILL we know something is real, and not 'created' to fool us, in the near future? Assuming some Gov'ts wish to do such a thing???

See my point?

Thanks





As technology gets better and better,indeed,it's easier for someone to make better hoaxes but technology works both ways.It gets also easier to examine pictures/videos and check if they're authentic or not so don't get too worried about it.



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