2008 Beijing Olympics

霍顿单个动作难度很高，但是邹凯的所有动作加在一起的难度系数分要比霍顿高0.3分”。

zoukai's overall difficulty is 0.3 point higher.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
The routine difficulty for the American was much higher than that of the Chinese Olympian.

So, your making this claim now?


Zou had a 7.2 difficulty level while Hortan had only a 6.9. You claimed its was apprantly higher and have been found out. Arm you head before you shoot your mouth


You so CLEARLY bias and making stupid accusations at the IOC for courption which CLEARLY is not there

Horton's previous start value (degree of difficulty), 6.4, would have been the field's lowest. His 6.9 was second-highest, three-tenths below winner Zou Kai of China.

Link


Zou

Zou chose a routine with the difficulty zenith of 7.2 among eight finalists to show his potential in which China has been transitionally weak.

news.xinhuanet.com...

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
And as I said, fairly comparable in execution, but the American suffers a .025 loss to someone who had an obviously inferior routine?

Nice logic.

First you claim that he had a higher score WHICH WAS PROVEN INCORRECT. Now you claim its "obvious". According to you? . The Americans are sore losers and make up information to try and make a case which is OBVIOUSLY not there

I really liked that little chinese girl who looked about 8 and saying she was 16. Skewed?
No....they wouldn't do that now would they.
These olympics are as bottled up and emotional as the current state of affairs in the world.
I hope in some representation they can bring us closer together.

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Originally posted by jpm1602
I really liked that little chinese girl who looked about 8 and saying she was 16.

The previous competitions she was in clearly gave her creditals compared to the drival the Americans can up with. They ended up with a mis-published news link stating 13 years another stating 14 years.... Great case

you can never tell chinese people's age,right?i always have to show my id in the states to prove that i m old enough to be there,what a anoyance.

Not sure if I just got dogged or admitted to. In any case, I hope these wonderful athletes do not get bogged down in political squabble. I keep flirting with myself in my head 'ya, I could do that'...I'd be out of breath before I hit the bar. And would hurt myself severely if I actually made it. These olympiads are the crem da la crem. Decades of dedication and practice to succeed to a 'whole notha' level'. That rocks.

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Originally posted by jpm1602
In any case, I hope these wonderful athletes do not get bogged down in political squabble.

Why should they?. The media tries to make a issue out of nothing so it can run a story while people like myself who doesn't care about global warming or whatever those other lunatics want to do with China just care about the sport and competition it brings. Now every olympics will be scruntinized and "boycott" threats will be used which ruin the good spirit these games crate

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Look how defensive you are about this? Way to be the unbarred defender of Chinese athletics. I'm any other armchair critic of sports I know nothing about. Given the two performances, Horton had the most impressive hands down. Bela Karolyi as a professional seemed pretty upset, and you're getting pissed at us because we're listening to professionals reporting on these things. It's not like we're trashing Chinese performers. At that level of competition, respect goes out to every single one of them. Calm down, action guy.

Here here china white. The spirit of the olympiads was to bring a moment of truce everywhere even in times of strife. No hatred. No angst. Just pure competition. I think many miss the point.

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Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
Bela Karolyi as a professional seemed pretty upset

Karolyi is a clown who is making all this controversy so he can retain his position at NBC. Try get someone critical of the US in that position and he'll be at the rafters in no time. If the US loses then there must be a excuse for them loses. Karolyi anyhow is obviously bias with his wife being the US coach so he has obvious reason to make those judgments. Anyhow I'm interested in the bit where you say he said his routine was more difficult. Did he actually say that?

and you're getting pissed at us because we're listening to professionals reporting on these things.

We'll its directed at the mass-media who make news "sexy" instead of reporting with a straight face. Everything needs to be a scandal so more people watch. But it all comes down to this Bela Karolyi fellow who seems to be making the rounds a lot

Anyhow Horton did do a impressive rountine. What impressed me more was his choice to change it up before a big final, a very big risk considering the circumstances

No hatred. No agnst. Maybe the olympics should carry on in perpuity to show that people really can get along. No matter what race, creed, or color.
How can I mess up a word like angst. Twice in a row. I guess I'm human.

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They did it with the Americans in 2004. It's not about making the news sexy, it's about feeling cheated while disregarding what the Olympics is supposed to be all about. We're all guilty of it. This validates my concerns for the legitimacy of any judged event, and your veracious defense of the Chinese specifically in this one.

JPM speaks truth. Weird how we all get dragged into the us against them mentality.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
JPM speaks truth. Weird how we all get dragged into the us against them mentality.

Very true. But in any competition you take sides and you become polarised to your own perspective.

Polarized by your own perspective. Not when someone is beating the snot out of you in some 'who do there'.
Let the players play, and put the politcs aside for a moment. Take a breath, and smell how sweet it is.

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Originally posted by infinite
I cannot believe some members are so puerile and dissolute that they would rather worry about the scoring system at the Olympics than worry about the War in Georgia.

Last time, I checked, it was Russia: 2, USA: 0 , LOL.

I've noticed a lot of americans on all the olympic threads here complaining about all sorts, mainly that-

the judges are biased or have been bought off
the chinese have developed new drugs that are undetectable
the chinese athletes are the result of gene manipulation (yes really!)

And now we see them skewing the statistics to make it look like they are winning-do you see a pattern forming here?

So absorbed with wanting to conquer, dominate and believe they are still number one.
Poor losers, bad sports and ignorant of the spirit of the olympics. Shame on you usa!

All politics aside and in the spirit of friendly competition, which is what the olympics is supposed to be about, I think the chinese have done a fantastic job hosting and i sadly doubt my own country will be able to match the awe inspiring opening ceremony that china put on, come 2012.
Everyone else in the world knows exactly who is winning so if they want to believe their media's propaganda thats up to them but we all know-well done china.

[edit on 20-8-2008 by the way]

Rounds 2 and 3 of the propaganda battle set to start soon -

Baseball semis:

USA vs. Cuba
Korea vs. Japan




BTW - it's a good thing Beijing's air quality is slowing down the runners, otherwise Bolt would have caused a rift in the space-time continuum...

There a great article on ESPN today by Rick Reilly:

These Olympics Are Unreal

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Hmmm..well I guess that if Sports channel Espn, surely the pinnacle of global news journalism, says that then it must be true?
Americas propaganda war to soil china's olympic dream continues.