(LHC) shut down by ripples from the future?

Originally posted by skekke
reply to post by OnionCloud

 

I mean at least wait for a while, so we can think this one through once more..
It's seems to pop up new discoveries about it all the time...
But I agree with you... It shouldn't be shut down forever..
Just till we know what we are doing..

[edit on 8-8-2008 by skekke]

The whole point of testing this is because we dont know what were doing.

It's pointless to run this test. Sure. Find out more about the universe and how it's made, all at the expense of the entire freaking human race! Yeah right. Go risk your own lives you crazy scientists.

They haven't actually started high energy collision tests yet, so... the black hole possibility is still there. Here's what might

happen (it's a flash but it shows the real possibility):

www.yaplakal.com...

The guys behind LHC say nothing like that will happen and suggest that nature conducts similar experiments in the Earth's

atmosphere every day. However Dr Wagner is pretty sure that nature does not collide two highly focused beams of particles with the

energies seen only when the universe was born. See his web site here:

lhcdefense.org...

The second argument of CERN is that even if a microscopic black hole appears, it will quickly evaporate due to hawking radiation.

However, hawking radiation is just a theory. Hawking changed his mind about black holes once, and there's not reason to think he'd

get it right this time. There's not reason to bet your life, the life of your children and the future of the planet based on a

word of one quantum physicist.

Even though the odds of the black hole appearing are not that high, did anyone ask you if you're willing to trust a bunch of

scientists with your life just so that they can test their theories?

I sure hope that the next time $6 bln dollars are spent by scientists it will be on finding cure for cancer and not the

hypothetical higgs particle. Last time quantum physicists produced something useful resulted in millions of people dead in

Hirohima, Nagasaki and Chernobyl.

The first high power experiments will be conducted end of 2008 or early 2009, so there's still time to stop this doomsday device.

I hope that anyone who cares about the future will take an action. Please suggest your ideas on how to do this (no violence,

please). Will injunction help? For example:

answers.yahoo.com...

I hope that if enough of us do that, we will be able to save our planet.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
... and leave the rest of the solar system out of their potentially world-ending shenanigans.

I just find this whole thing to be so amusing.

I have not researched this much, but it seems the big fear is that this could create a black hole that could suck up the planet? Are there any theories on what that would be like to experience? I mean woud we even know it was happening?

I would expect it would happen super fast. Would we have time to get the news that apparently switzerland and half of germany are "gone"? Do they think black holes could be portals to other dimensions?

What are the theories on "the worst" that could happen?

What a cool thread. I don't agree with the OP but the ideas being discussed here are wonderful.

If the future could really influence the past in some way, couldn't we use it to send messages back in time?

'Mum, Dad, don't have Nikki, she'll grow up into an airhead and develop a coc aine habit.'

Originally posted by Sonya610

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
... and leave the rest of the solar system out of their potentially world-ending shenanigans.

I just find this whole thing to be so amusing.

I have not researched this much, but it seems the big fear is that this could create a black hole that could suck up the planet? Are there any theories on what that would be like to experience? I mean woud we even know it was happening?

I would expect it would happen super fast. Would we have time to get the news that apparently switzerland and half of germany are "gone"? Do they think black holes could be portals to other dimensions?

What are the theories on "the worst" that could happen?

The absolute worst that could happen is that it creates strange matter, which causes all regular matter it comes into contact to also become strange matter, eventually essentially disintegrating all matter in the universe.

Some components of cosmic radiation involve energies far, far higher than the LHC could ever produce, so it's seen as vanishingly unlikely; as the universe hasn't ended yet, near as we can guess.

reply to post by Steve B


Sure.

Just accelerate the reference frame.