Massive US naval armada heads for Iran

as mentioned in the other doom and gloom thread

what carriers are they sending please?

since the locations of all 11 are very known:

4 are either being repaired or in refit - 4 are in the atlantic , which leaves 3 in the pacific;

lincoln is in the gulf allready

reagan ws last seen steaming east although is in the pacific

kitty hawk is in san diego.

The build-up was already there under the guise of "Operation Brimstone". Military exercises between France, US and GB.

They haven't left the area yet as the exercises were conducted very recently. Instead of leaving the area, they added two more strike groups from the US!

So, there is an "armada" there as we speak. They were assembled for the exercises and have not left.

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what `strike groups` have they added?? did they magic them from pixie dust?

as i said - all 11 carriers can be located - and if you think that SACLANT will allow his carriers to leave the atlantic undefended your having a laugh.

if they do - you can bet real $$$$ the russians will sortie , en masse to scare the **** out of the USA.

Here is an article in the Kuwait times about the two carrier groups now heading to Iran:

www.jpost.com...

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so they name them as the Reagan (allready in the pacific anyway) and the Rooservelt - which is undergoing ORSE in

the atlantic.

sorry calling BS on this one.

What?? Read more than the first paragraph. Something tells me you may not be able to read English that well as your grammar would indicate - but nonetheless, will point it out for you:

Meanwhile, the Arabic news agency Moheet reported at the end of July that an unnamed American destroyer, accompanied by two Israeli naval vessels traveled through the Suez Canal from the Mediterranean. A week earlier, a US nuclear submarine accompanied by a destroyer and a supply ship moved into the Mediterranean, according to Moheet.

Currently there are two US naval battle groups operating in the Gulf: one is an aircraft carrier group, led by the USS Abraham Lincoln, which carries some 65 fighter aircraft. The other group is headed by the USS Peleliu which maintains a variety of planes and strike helicopters.

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I'm sick of the waiting game. Lets just get this thing started already. Geez, it's like the calm before the storm. All hell is about to break loose. I'm ready for the ride. Lets start it already.

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read the other thread mr doomsayer , the aircraft carriers , which lead strike groups are all located; or do you want a world war? if YES they go sign up allready/

I can see it now....the US screaming that it wasn't fair that Iran sunk its entire Carrier group in the Gulf with a barrage of Super Sunburn's. That it was wrong for them to protect themselves and their people from Instruments of War and that the 200 Nuclear weapons it launched at Iran was justified.

Could be based upon many things.
Ive asked a friend in the navy he doesnt even know about it.
So chances are its just part of the excersises.
Testing to see how quick they can get another 2 carrier groups into the area maybe.
Its all usually just testing tweaking and messing.
There ain't gonna be no war this year.As long as we keep giving money to Russia.

Originally posted by jetxnet
Here is an article in the Kuwait times about the two carrier groups now heading to Iran:

www.jpost.com...

Ok thats it - The Jerusalem is not news paper - I would trust a random blogger of this drivel ANY DAY OF THE WEEK - it is simply not even worth quoting.

Their latest contribution warns russia not to deploy their air defence system in Iran because the Israelis will develop a counter measure and leave all of Russia vulnerable and embarrassed - I mean FFS -

www.jpost.com...

It is PURE propaganda.

Having said that this blog deals with MANY details that are absolutely true and not well known - it has more credence than many other things I have read and is certainly insightful if also alarming.

Unfortunately a quick look at the list of other articles points to this being a dooms dayer.

To other posters:

China has not dumped Euros in favour of US - (der)
The US economy is absolutely up the duff - what planet are you from ?
China has specialised in SUBS - not carriers.
A war like this will draw in Russia, Pakistan, China, Indonesia, and could easily be the catalyst for a 3rd world war (a hot one).

The U.S. would come out losers and the power would again shift to the east as it has so ofter throughout history with the west again retreating into darkness.

Get a clue about things - this would be the worst thing that could ever happen.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Truther
War is iminent!

Let's get it on Bitches.

Pack up your bag, time for school boy.

Originally posted by jetxnet

Yeah they do that and China will declare war, perhaps economic war, because they stated MANY TIMES that they would declare war on WHOEVER block the strait of hormuz and the flow of oil to China.

China also have a big investment in Iran... over 100 billions $ over 25 years.... so if the US fark it... China could dump the US dollar. Anyway, the US isn't buying as much stuff from China as it used to be... so destroying a major enemy while losing a few more sales is worth it.

China doesn't have enough naval resources to even remotely contend with a build-up of this magnitude. They don't even have an aircraft carrier yet. Their first ones are still in production and haven't received the ones they bought from Russia yet.

Only Russia could pose a risk factor for the 5th fleet as they have a formidable navy with long-strike projection capabilities but it still wouldn't be enough. They don't have the money to go to war with the US in that context.




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Unless the Chinese decided to draft their millions of people to march across the continent and phisically remove US from that part of the planet.

all the aircraft carriers and stealth bombers wouldn't mean squat if that many people truely united.

who would stop them? the british?
The russians would kick back and see how it turned out. The middle easterners would say "hell yea, Get those white devils."And the Africans would think it was funny and fair.
And it really would be.

The USA usually has a good showing of their navy within the gulf. Actually for the past few months they have not had a ship there.. and that was pretty much the first time since the first gulf war ended. This is nothing new to write home about.

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would you people please try to get your news FROM ANYWHERE but a blog... by definition they are biased and put spin on things.

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what is it that makes you think that we even currently have a free aircraft carrier to send there


you have no proof of what you are reading, i would take it with a grain of salt. chances are we are just poised to re-open the strait just in case it get's closed when Israel sacks up and attacks Iran..

Some people really like to reach here...

So we have unconfirmed reports that 2 aircraft carriers (plus additional escorts) are heading to the Persian Gulf..

From two very questionable sources I might add: JP & "Europe blog".

As I said on the previous thread, this gives us nothing.

If the US honestly wanted to start an air campaign they don't need to risk their precious carriers as staging grounds.

They've got the Iraqi border and the Afghani border. They've got airbases coming out of the ass (Bagram, Taqqadum, Incirlik).. they've got Turkey, Qatar, UAE; all good little sock puppets to use as staging areas and supply lines.



There is no need for a massive naval presence.
The US could fly squadrons over Hormuz from the Gulf states and back without refuelling.

This is why I don't buy into this whole WW3/Mass Hysteria.
It's simply not sound military thinking.

So America has men and bases lining Iran's borders and now they're going to move in their Navy right in the very narrow straights of Hormuz where they know Iran can deploy hundreds of anti-shipping missiles and launch attacks from their Carrier groups?

Even Tomahawks and AGM's can reach almost all of Iran from US bases on the Gulf.

It doesn't add up. I'd like to see some verifiable sources here.
Not blogs or more hawkish, Zionist newspapers.

The sheer amount of ships that blog lists is what casts a doubt over this whole thing to begin with, I mean that constitutes like 1/3 of the US Surface Fleet.
And a surprising number of them are Destroyers. lol
What is the US scared of the mighty Iranian Navy?

This isn't WW2, there haven't been that many US battleships put to sea since Normandy to my knowledge.
I smell some serious fear-mongering here...

[edit on 8/8/08 by The Godfather of Conspira]

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I can't believe, now a days with all the crap we see everyday, you support war... why... to see innocent people die! Wonder how you feel if you or your loved ones be one of the first to go in support of your statement! Think first...

Now I understand how people trample other people to death at concerts and while treking to worship some idol in India.

Please....the world is about to end so jump out a friggin window preferably something over the 10th floor.

Now for something constructive. Sanctions. Look up the word. It is a method of "diplomacy" not war. How would you suggest the limp dick UN or Security Counsel implement them with Iran?

A navel blockade is justified in this situation....it is actually a reason to be optomistic but we don't want to hear any of that do we.

please....continue your countdown now.

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

The Kuwait government has learned that two aircraft carriers are scheduled to arrive in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea in case of a U.S.-Iran war, the Kuwait Times reported on its Web site, citing an unnamed senior official.

The report didn't identify the ships. However, the Jerusalem Post said on its Web site Thursday that they were the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan.

The Post cited an unidentified defense analyst, and said the U.S. Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route.

Kuwait is preparing an emergency plan in case the situation escalates and war breaks out between the U.S. and Iran, the Kuwaiti report said Thursday, citing the official.

Acting Kuwait premier Sheikh Jaber Al-Mubarak Al-Sabah has asked the interior minister and others to hold meetings with different departments to reveal and resolve the country's weaknesses, the Kuwait Times reported.

Full stories at: www.kuwaittimes.net... ... NzA0MDM1Ng

www.jpost.com... ... 2FShowFull

www.zawya.com...
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