Satanic Behavior - It's getting really old.

I am writing here because I'm at my wits end. Thankfully, I am not the truly troubled one. No, I'm writing here because of a dear friend of mine. I'm writing in the hope that someone out there may have encountered something like I have, because I'm running out of options.

Allow me to explain. At age 13, she was seduced into a satanic cult. From what little I know, she was quite involved in some of the ceremonial aspects of the cult.

Fast forward five years, and you're in the present. Although she's severed all ties with the cult, she endured a long history of self injury and other harmful activities. When I met her, she was very much of an empty shell.

Thankfully, she started moving in the right direction and looked into psychological treatment and medication. But it's been a bumpy ride and right now she's in a downward spiral again. It's always ups and downs. She'd manage to stave off cutting, but now she's having those thoughts again.

Now normally I'd say, let time take its course, and things will turn for the better, but I think there's something more going on here. Back when I first met her about a year ago, she used to break out into episodes. In which, she would experience pain, break out into what I can only describe as "chanting".

Well, I had thought that all of it was past, but now I'm starting to doubt that. Last night in a phone call, she whispered the chant again, jumping in and out of lucidity. She would frequently sound like she was choking, and then she'd start chanting again, but very quietly, in a whisper.

I've never really been able to remember any distinct things that she said while in chant, but one that I do remember is something like "Satan apeasan".

It's been a long struggle. Incredibly tough on both of us, because I feel like there's very little I can do amidst all of this, and that I don't really know where to go from here.

Has anyone here had experiences like this? How does one get out of it?

there has never been any real proof of satanic cults. the COS certainly wouldnt do this. Sounds fishy

"Satan apeasan"- apeasan sounds like appease. There's one answer.
If this situation is true, it sounds -to me- like your friend is possessed. Contact the exorcist. Seriously, it would mean she would be being tortured by something until she gives it what it wants. Though there may be little or no evidence left around of Satanic cults, that does not mean that isolated Satanic things like this are not outside the realm of possibility.
While some may deem it questionable, the existance of such things, i would deem it of high priority that she be un-possessed.

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Honestly? If you're telling the truth, and this girl has really had satanic experiences, not psychologist of any kind will be able to help her. This is going to sound weird, but you gotta believe me when I say that means she has been toying with the darkest forces and spirits that are out there. Wanna get her out of it? Go the opposite way.

Show her the light of Jesus Christ. Show her the love he has for her, regardless of her past. If she wants to turn away from all that has happened, all she has to do is tell the one who created her, God, and her life will be changed. Make sense?

Here's my opinion from a more logical and scientific point of view. Be her friend, get her away from those influences that are triggering the negative behavior. Sex, drugs, old habits like cutting, etc. I'll bet you anything she was sexually assaulted at a young age and brainwashed. The people she thought she could trust and were her friends have abused and used her in the worst possible ways, and it has messed up her mind. I've seen things like this time and time again. My own wife was someone who fell into Wiccan soon after she was sexually assaulted by her own uncle. I'm not saying Wiccan is a bad thing, but it's not 'her'. She was doing it to get away from everything she knew at the time (that she couldn't trust her family, or males, or anything that claimed she could trust). When we first started dating she thought she might be a lesbian, she was curious about getting into the occult, and it looked like she was starting down the same path as your friend.

However, I took her away from her 'friends' (they weren't her friends, they were trying to use her, get her into drugs, etc). I helped her get a job as a lifeguard and swim instructor at the local YMCA where I worked and it did wonders. Working with children, holding down a fulfilling job, and being away from negative influences turned her life around. I also got her to confront her past, as painful as it was. She finally opened up to me about her uncle and it lifted a huge weight off her shoulders. I taught her how to accept the truth of what happened, and to stop trying to bury it or deny it. She learned to deal with it, realize it happened and can't be undone but to move PAST it. She has, and I'm proud of her for the strong individual she has become. We've been married now for 6 years and counting, and have a beautiful baby girl.

Bottom line: she's not possesed by demons. She's mentally unstable from years of negative influences and traumatic experiences. She needs stability in her life and positive people that aren't out to take advantage of her.

Just my opinon, take it for what it's worth.

I am not much of an expert on this sort of thing, but I would suggest something that can calm her mind as well as offer spiritual protection. Like visualising a bubble of white light around herself and her home.

This is something I have done when experiencing bouts of paranormal activities in my home and it really seems to help. it was suggested by a friend who has had a long association with the paranormal and spirituality.

i always imagine this 'universal light' coming down through the ceiling and infusing my body and home, forcing away all negative thoughts, energies and entities. On occasion I will 'pray' to the universal forces to help me.

There's no religion attached to it and no need for any special equipment. I don't know if it works because it focuses my positive thoughts, or if there is something more to it, but it does work.

Is your friend at all aware of what she is doing? What are her thoughts on this?

Thank you all for your responses.

I think that the situation is more of reaction to her stress based on past experiences which were traumatic than anything. Sage08 hit this one on the nail. She had a turbulent past and is finally slowly coming to terms with it.

Only point I had really inquired was because in her last rough patch the chanting returned. That's the real point of my inquiry.

So although there is the possibility of some sort of supernatural occurrence here, my personal conclusion has been leaning towards the more rational.

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If you want to know if she is demon possessed, say the Lord's prayer in the next room where she can't know what you are doing and see how she reacts.

When I was on leave from the mental hospital in '91, my mom took me home.
Unknown to me, she had told her brother(my uncle) who is a preacher about how hard it was to see me that way. He told her that they would pray for me EVERY Sunday at 9:00.

Well, it flipped her out when at 9:00, still on the road home, I started yelling at her and pulling my hair.
She didn't tell me about it until about 2 years after I was saved.

I would post in a christian website and ask for prayers for her.

This may sound contradictory but she really should try reading Eckhart Tolle's "a new earth." That book is therapeutic for troubled minds.

I once knew a guy who's wife was 'conditioned' by a cult years before they met and certain things would prompt her to react irrationally. These were mainly sounds. I remember Jazz music being one of them because he loved Jazz but couldn't play it around her.

Anyhow to make a long story very short he took her to a hypnotist and got it sorted.....

When my friend chants, its sorta a rhythmic constant flow. She was conscious at one point that she was doing it, but now I think its more of an automatic reaction to being extremely stressed.

I do question, though, how hypnotism would help. From what I understand, there is a potential to create virulent new memories that the subject would have never had otherwise (things that didn't actually happen).

Sounds like your friend has some serious psychological problems ( sorry )
Probably caused by that cult. Cults are baaaaaad news they do some major damage to your mind, body and soul. She still needs some serious deprogramming by a pro psychologist. ( Psychologists don't medicate, psychiatrists do )
True Satanists don't go for those freaky cult type settings, satanism is about having control over your own life. You are your own god and Satan is a figurehead, like mickey mouse is for Disney.

Hang in there, she needs you to help her out.

I'm going to offer what's probably a rather controversial opinion on this subject.


Oftentimes we can mistake the cause for the symptoms and the symptoms for the cause. I know Satanism has a very bad rap in many many circles especially in the USA but perhaps here her involvement in Satanism isn't the CAUSE of her problems but perhaps CAUSED by them.

Troubled people often look outwards for people, concepts and indeed metaphysical forces to save them from their mundane life, their unhappiness or to otherwise enact a change in what they consider a less than optimum existance. Perhaps upon hitting puberty at the age of 13 your friend had a crisis that let her to seek out a change within Satanic circles.

Rather than being seen by her as an abusive and difficult period in her life she sees this as a time in her life where she had clarity, direction and support. Having gaining this confidence and overcome the problems she had she no longer felt the need to be part of the society and drifted away from them.

Now that she begins to have problems again perhaps she is merely reverting to things that will calm her and settle her thoughts and emotions. Perhaps her chanting is not the cause of her problems, but an attempt by her to deal with them. I know certainly in my early teens I felt in a similar situation and took a lot of comfort from my dabblings within the occult. When things began to become difficult for me I went back to those things I knew that made my inner hardship dissapate, chanting, visualising and the ritual that I used to cope with those same hardships months and years before.

Perhaps "Satan Appease" does not mean, "Satan I will appease you." So much as "Satan appease the things that trouble me." Perhaps it is a call for help rather than indications of the big bad bearded man ruining her life.



I think making a huge deal about possesion and seeking out exorcists is one of the WORSE things you could do for her now. What I would advise is spending some more time with her, quality time with her, show her that you and other are there for her and understand what she is going through. Perhaps ask her about her experiences and get involved a little.

The primary thing is to make sure she feels like she is able to deal with her problems. I cannot emphasise this enough. The GREATEST factor in people overcoming mental and emotion difficulties is the amout of SOCIAL SUPPORT they get and feel they have.



Also I would encourage you to reconsider the way you look at Satan. The red skinned, fork tailed goatman with horns is a very closed view of him.

It is not life, granted by God that is man's greatest gift. It is the choice of life, given by Satan which sets us apart and makes us free.

Originally posted by Totalstranger
there has never been any real proof of satanic cults. the COS certainly wouldnt do this. Sounds fishy

You're kidding, right? Satanic cults are all over. Devil-worshipping, sacrificial, animal-killing cults? Less likely, but there is still evidence.

Official Satanic groups aren't about sacrifices and blood-drinking and all the movie-stereotypes you can think of. Formal Satanism = very different than other cults that may pay homage to Satan or similar beings.

And there are certainly cases where people have done horrific things in the name of religious cults to children and other victims. Many child abuse cases involve some kind of ritual aspect, but that is usually ignored in court and left out of testimony for fear that it will come across as too fantastic.

FBI statements that claim there is no evidence of Satanic Cults has long been refuted.

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I would urge you to provide proof of these claims then.

From over in the UK it certainly seems the USA has a larger problem with fanatical Christian cults than it does with Satanic ones.

The proof is out there. Details for my personal proof are protected by client/patient agreements, but suffice to say, I've been to a few court proceedings and had a few patients that the FBI certainly never investigated. Just do some Googling and weed the boloney from something objective. I agree that there are whackjobs out there who make stuff up, but the FBI's report is laughable.

Look up cult ritual abuse testimony. Satanic Ritual abuse testimony. While I don't think abuse in the SRA is true Satanism, many people abuse in the name of "Satan" absolutely. I always have to make that clear. While I'm not a fan of "true Satanism," it's far from the sacrificing chickens and drinking blood from a chalice.

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See thats the thing.

Everything I find tends to refute the existance of SRA and says that generally it is considered nothing more than a figment of the collective imagination.

There are, granted, a number of testimonials out that that claim otherwise, but they are just that, testimonals and amount to nothing more than anecdotal evidence.

If you could point me to even one or two cases where the testimonials can be backed up my some hard evidence that the claims are true, I would happily look into them.

I'll look into it. Again, it's a difficult thing to find. Court cases get sealed and when pleas and deals are made, it's gone.

Survivors of Cult Ritual Abuse often want nothing to do with "coming forward" as some live life similar to that of witness protection participant. They have fled a former life and fear their family members (or cult members) finding them.

But, I'll look to see what I can find. I will say, however, that I don't think it's this HUGE conspiracy. I think these things happen in smaller / more familial type settings.

Here's a good start for a lot of resources (some obviously unreliable, but I got a little lost in some of these a while back.)

lamar.colostate.edu...

I think that absolutely people abuse others in the name of religion (Satanism and even Christianity.) I've seen almost an equal number of people who have been abused both physically and sexually by Christian cults. Personally, I find the Christian cults far more disturbing as they do everything in the name of "Christ." Some really sick stuff out there. But, as I said, I think most of it is familial and may include a few families. One thing that all the testimony I've heard (first hand) or read is that it goes back for many MANY generations and is brought over from "the Old Country," Eastern Europe in particular. I'm not sure if it's just coincidence, but I always found that odd.

I also think there are small groups that get together, sacrifice small animals and do a bunch of chanting and orgies in the name off Satan. People do weird, fracked up stuff. Just go to Waco and you'll find all kinds of interesting things. Many skinned animals found, many dead animals found, the occasional ritual paraphenalia found.

But, it only proves that people do some weird s**t in the name of religion (any religion.) Technically, I think Satanic Cults are absolutely real, but I don't see them as some higher-level, all-encompasing conspiracy. I just haven't seen enough REAL evidence to back it up. Most that include the 20-something crowd are probably just a bunch of nitwits wasting their time, trying to be badass.

The true danger is the quiet one--hidden in the family "way" so to say. Scary stuff.

Very interesting - thanks for the resource.

I'll have a look into it.