Oprah Winfrey Is Openly Trying To Destroy Biblical Christianity

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by mental modulator

 

It's B.S.

The Bible existed a century before Constantine was born.

Helloooooo McFly.

Da Vinci Code is fiction.

Dan Brown’s fictional best seller, The Da Vinci Code, sat at the top of the best seller’s list for weeks. Goddess worshippers and Christian haters around the globe have not only given it rave reviews, but offer it up as proof that Christianity is a lie. You might be wondering how a fiction novel can have such an impact. It can because Brown makes the claim that the book is based on fact. In bold letters in the front of the book Brown alerts the reader that what they are about to read, while being a fictional story, is based on historical fact. Many have argued that we shouldn’t be so concerned about a work of fiction, and in one sense they are right. If people knew their history, their Bibles, and studied their own religion thoroughly, we wouldn’t need to be concerned about this book. However, many of the numerous factual errors and boldface lies in Brown’s books won’t be obvious to the general public.

PWNED

Actually the first formed version of the Bible was 30 years AFTER HIS DEATH - the bible is not a solid single entity delivered to man - rather it has been evolving and changing over millennium.

"..................The earliest canon of the 27 books of the New Testament we have belongs to Athanasius, whose work was published in 367--thirty years following Constantine's death--............."

Cheers.

Religion is a human creation. It is based upon previous religions and is simply an organic, evolving process.

There is no God, or Gods, simply a means to deal with the unexplained or emotionally difficult. It is the crutch of the weak minded.

[edit on 5-8-2008 by audas]

reply to post by audas


Why should I even bother to respond? This was already quoted and sourced on the last page. What is the point of presenting information if no one is going to read it?????

Well, here we go AGAIN....

www.thetruthaboutdavinci.com...


And:

Error #1: More than once in the book, the protagonist, Teabing, makes the claim that the canonical gospels are not the earliest gospels. Instead, he claims, the suppressed Gnostic gospels are the earliest written gospels and the canonical gospels were selected from among 80 other gospels.



First, there were only less than half that many books written about Jesus life. The two Gnostic gospels Brown relies on most heavily weren’t written until the second century A.D., long after the New Testament gospels were written. It makes sense that the Gnostic gospels came about in the late second century, as this is when Gnostic thought was most prevalent. However, the New Testament was complete before the end of the 1st Century.



As a side note - The Gospel of Peter, one of the very Gospels that Brown claims as an earlier writing, blames the Jews for the crucifixion. Another Gnostic Gospel, the Gospel of Thomas, claims women must become men in order to receive salvation. Apparently Brown’s Gospel is not only anti-Semitic, but also chauvinistic.

www.contenderministries.org...

Now, if you have new information then please present it in a proper counter-point argument.

Da Vinci Code is fiction, end of story)

reply to post by MandM


I am no longer a Christian, by any means...But even during my hay day of following a zombie, I understood the religion pretty well. I've even read the Bible twice! (which is two more times than the average Christian!)...Even with this knowledge, I fail to understand the difference between "Biblical Christianity" and plain 'ol Christianity....Can anyone help explain the difference to me?

If that's true, then I have to take back what I said about Oprah. Now I will really RESPECT HER!

Can you clarify your Q a bit more?

"Oprah Winfrey is Openly Trying to Destroy Biblical Christianity"? Well it's about damn time! Christians who DON'T follow the bible are usually the more moral ones.

Nothing can be destroyed that is not ready for destruction, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Even if the Da Vinci Code was 100% real, which none of this crap is. I doubt the Catholic church would even give a damn. Why should they? All they have to do is convince a bunch of people that already believe in their story that the book is fiction. You've got your experts, we've got ours. And guess what, your experts are wrong. End of story, church wins.

Since when has empirical evidence convinced a christian of anything?

Now maybe, just maybe, the church would hire some group of fanatics or even private investigators to follow the book's characters around and try to locate the evidence to confiscate it. But why? Why would they risk their reputation? If they were caught doing that it would look worse than if they ignored it and denied it later.

I doubt that more than .05% of christians even take the story seriously to begin with. Only the most fanatical person uses christianity in any sort of practical sense. Philosophically it's great, lots of people get their rocks off thinking and talking about it but it's of very little value other than that.

Of all the "weird" topics/threads - I find this one to be the most ridiculous I've ever seen.

Thank God organized religion is finally losing its grip on America - - and more and more people are turning to Spirituality.

Fanatics wield the bible like a tool - but don't seem to have a clue of the true message of love and enlightenment. I believe there is truth in the bible - it contains ancient documents. But the modern bible is not truth. For one thing it is a hack job.

I never really listened or watched Oprah - until recently. Now I listen to her on my XM radio - - totally enjoying her new direction of enlightenment.

You don't even have to believe in a god/goddess or anything to understand Living in the Positive is a healthy mindset.

reply to post by MandM


Do you realize that your thread gave me a headache?

I am sure that you will attribute this to my lack of understanding what you were trying to convey...a solid argument for all zealots, huh.

Two more helpful comments:

First, Oprah's audience are true believers already, or they would not have waited 3 hours in line (guess here...) to watch her tape for an hour. So, if Harpo can pull them in without any religious dogma, you should have no problem going down there and converting them all, as they are already geared up to believe anything; this would have been a good idea from jump, but just like a typical zealot, your a bit late.

Second, you condemn her for using her celebrity status as a religious hammer...actually, shouldn't you and your kind be the only ones with access to religious hammers...? Do you know if I can get one at Home Depot?

Pound away Harpo, pound away...and when you finally tear down their pearly gates, then I will stand in line 3 hours to watch your show - for you will be our true savior...

Weak Sauce OP

A big THANKYOU to the OP for bringing this to our attention.

My admiration for Oprah has just skyrocketed thanks to this info.
KUDOS to OPRAH.

reply to post by MandM


Dont want to do

a one-liner here but...

SO WHAT?

Oprah imo, switches beliefs as often as ratings require it. She flows with the tide, letting it take her where it will. She'll grip any new age religeon idea and fly with it, if it sells. Sometimes this is unforunate, as my wife watches her religeously. I just have to shake my head each time something new comes along. Not all of it is "bad" per se, but a lot of it is very new-agey and not really based in a whole lot of hard fact.

You and I and everyone else are and always have been Gods
You just don't know yet, open your mind, see who you truly are.

All you need to do is know yourselves
Find peace in your heart.
Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of the planet.

Wake up to what the church is and has been doing.
Religion is a primitive concoction created by man to command, suppress, and exploit others, to which spiritually weak life forms succumb.

May the supreme love and truth of the cosmos bless you all

Peace

I skipped a few pages of replies but, as I see it, She doesn't believe in God, but she does believe in Obama, same difference, haha. But i think its good to stop this whole religion mess the sooner the better. Start working on real problems. We limited so much because of the concern of Playing God, well if you take god out well we were just bettering the human race.

Originally posted by fleabit
I just have to shake my head each time something new comes along. Not all of it is "bad" per se, but a lot of it is very new-agey and not really based in a whole lot of hard fact.

The quagmire is - there is nothing New about New Age. Christianity is in primary grade in comparison.

Oprah evolves - - that is the greatest thing about her. Thank God she is not stuck with-in four walls and an ancient mistranslated hack job book.

NOTE: "there are truly those who walk in His footsteps. They live their lives in spirituality and understand the true message of love and enlightenment"

Okily doky! She must be super human all powerful if just one woman can bring down all of Christianity! So she doesn't believe, big deal. I don't believe a lot of things in the bible either, written by man and all..

Not everyone is just going to blindly follow what she believes just because she is who she is. She is entitled to believe whatever she wants and be open about her beliefs just the same as anyone.

reply to post by MurderCityDevil


Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos #9, Jan. 6, 1928: “Everyone knows that John himself, the Apostle of love, who seems to reveal in his Gospel the secrets of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and who never ceased to impress on the memories of his followers the new commandment ‘Love one another,’ altogether forbade any intercourse with those who professed a mutilated and corrupt form of Christ’s teaching: ‘If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him: God speed you’ (II John 10).”