Oprah Winfrey Is Openly Trying To Destroy Biblical Christianity

reply to post by lucid eyes


This is true but it has also been the cause of more beneficence than could possibly be recorded - which it never is.

reply to post by Mozzy


Its very easy to be cynical and sarcastic concerning religion. However, the words you spewed out confirm that you have not really attempted to grasp the meaning of Christianity. Everything you've sarcastically and cynically questioned is spelled out to you in the Bible in a form that any have-wit, you included, could understand.

reply to post by riggs2099


Judeo-Christian morals are largely the reason we have the society we do today. Whether you care to take in religion or not, your outright bashing of them just proves your own ignorance in history.

Originally posted by viperdave
the only thing religion is (or was) good for is "manipulating the masses" its a way to controll people

its a way to get people to do what YOU want them to do

religion has killed more people on this planet then any plague or natural disaster in history....most wars were started by religion

i realy dont want to bash religion, it has helped many people to get there lives together and be happy

if you belive in any religion, more power to you, just dont push it on me, dont force me to belive in something i dont want to belive in

if you dont like what oprah says, turn the channel, shut the radio off and ignore her

sorry, this is actualy my first post/reply and i had to speak what was on my mind, just like the person that started this ................be safe people

A way to get people to do what YOU want them to do? Are you referring to not killing, taking anothers wife, not stealing.....wow we've all been manipulated. Start the revolt.

Religion has killed more people than any plague or natural disaster? REALLY? So we're talking about....all the Bubonic Plague deaths, all the AIDS deaths, all the WWI &II deaths....(and these just to name a few) compared to....
The Crusades, the Inquisition, the Muslim Empires expansion, the current muslim extremism...and what else? Somehow I think you cannot backup your claim.

"You dont want to bash relgion", though thats what youre doing. "It has helped people get their lives together and be happy" - again, you are included in this whether you like it or not.

When do people push it on you? Though those that believe in religion of some form are in the majority, they are definitely the vocal minority.

You say if you dont like what Oprah says, turn the channel. Follow your own advise next time you find anything religious on tv.

It isn't Oprah's status as a celebrety that is the important thing about this.

It is that she is in a position to make a statement that will reach millions.

There are millions of people who will say that they are Christian, but who really are not totally into it; altho they may not have openly questioned the matter. For these people her message may show them that the whole thing is a hoax. She will have won many to see the truth and throw off the shackles of doubt forever. The truth will set them free, but first it will make them very angry.

I was never so awakened to the total foolishness of the Bible until I began a study with some JW's. What I read left me aghast that any adult could take such tripe seriously.

reply to post by MandM


I personally do not care for Oprah (and New Age is also bogus) but I do recognize that God could be using her to denounce religion. For it is about time.

Obviously this is a rude awakening for you!! I am sorry that this is a harsh reality but even the Bible (as fallible as it is) is showing that all of this needs to happen!!

IMO God is now turning his back on religion and it is becoming more evident by all the exposure of "The Lie" along with exposing the problems with the tens - hundreds of thousands of mistakes in the translating of the NT alone!

Let's be Real.

The OP wouldn't have any problem with Oprah using her celebrity to reach millions - if she was quoting Bible verses.

If there is any thing "new" - it is Christianity - one of the newest religions if not #1

There is nothing "new" about new age - other then perhaps a modern twist on ancient beliefs.

But then so is today's Christianity - I doubt Jesus would even recognize what it has become.

reply to post by OhZone


I wasn't aware she feels this way, but I've felt this way for a great many years. The churches--all of them--want to dominate each and every person in the world. We'd be far better off without ANY of them. They are just as greedy, corrupt, and manipulative as any political organization... and what makes them WORSE is they are using a diety to try to convince us all that we NEED to be saved. That's a bunch of hogwash. As long as you live a good life and try to never deliberately hurt someone else first, that's all the matters.

And I do NOT believe there is a Hell. I believe that's just another fabrication of "fear and control."

The OP is entitled to her view, even if I or anyone else disagrees with her, which I do.

I am happy to let the OP have her beliefs, and she will have to forgive me for having my own that do not align with her's.

I do not understand the need for reply posts denegrating the OP... this behaviour is below standard and those who have indulged need to assess their actions and reasoning.

Anyone can disagree with this next statement, but that will not make it "wrong"... all religion continues to exist because they all use the process of long term Indoctrination (Teaching Doctrine) which is done from the moment you are born into a religious family and continues until death, or, you perceive a different truth.

Religion has done great things for many people, especially those drowning in the world who are in need of a life preserver. Equally, it has and still does hideous things in the 'name of God'. By the way, Allah and God are the same don't you know? All religions have 'sinned' against humanity in the name of their god/gods.

Read Barbara Thierings book, "Jesus the Man". Written by a christian, extremely well researched, and as factual an account as you could get of the reality, rather than the biblical line surrounding the life and times of that human being... note I didn't refer to him as god's only son, etc, etc.

Oprah too has done many good works, using her vast wealth to assist others, etc. In this respect she has done far more for other humans than many churches have or will.

As an example of what I mean, my father went to South America to save street kids from being shot by the military at night. He scraped money together to get a building to use as a home for these very needy little kids, and to find support he went to all the churches across the southern US states to see if they could provide Chrisitian Charity and assist in this important work. He was turned away empty handed by the majority of wealthy Jesus-loving Churches... you should be ashamed of yourselves by the way.

In the end, who cares what Oprah, or the OP do and think? Is it really that important in the long run?

Isn't it time to put aside the petty bickering of my belief is better/truer than your's?

It won't be long now and many people will have their rug of belief pulled out from under them when they see and experience things their belief-system says cannot exist. These people will need humanitarian charity to be assisted back into some form of understanding, and so I hope that most of us, Christian and non-christian work together on that.

reply to post by Tayesin


Tayesin,

Wow!!

That is a mature...balanced...reply!

Thank you for you leadership!

OT
Philippians 1:3

reply to post by Tayesin



Barbara Thiering and I think also Robert Eisenman ...were they not both doing work on the dead sea scrolls...theorys about the dead sea scrolls??

For some reason Barbra Thierings name rings a bell ..with the same theory or similar as Robert Eisenman and the scrolls.

It has been a long while since I have actually heard of either name..so my recall here is a bit fuzzy.

Tayesin,
You do realize how nonsensical this statement is once you think it through..yes??

All religions have 'sinned' against humanity in the name of their god/gods.

The only way this is true is if men are gods or what is refered to as demigods.

Sins are always against God..

Crimes are against humans.

This also means all gods are not the same god. Some are counterfits.

This kind of statement looks good on paper and will get by most peoples until it is pointed out to most people with a modicum of ability to think for themselves.

As to Barbra Theiring and "Jesus the Man"
I know all I need to know about Jesus Christ the man..from the
Book Of Luke...written by the precise person for the job..a gentile doctor...a Greek.
The lineage of Jesus Christ the man in this book is from Adam...in his manhood.

Mark writes of Jesus Christ the Servant...no lineage of servants..intresting omission from this book Also here the term used over and over..is "Straightway" Straightway he did this or that...as a obedient servant would be doing about His Fathers work.

Matthew is of Jesus Christ the King...the lineage here is from David...as a rightful King.

John...Jesus the High Priest...with a lineage from John the Baptist...when John baptized Jesus in the River Jordan..and from there Jesus took on His priesthood and His Church.

Intresting lineages from these four biographys once one knows...or is taught.


Thanks,
Orangetom







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