does obama's race affect how you feel about him?

how can anybody compare obama to street thugs?
You really think Obama , once elected, will turn the country into a gigantic ghetto? Its like saying that I wont vote for mccain because 90 percent of pedophile are white.
I dont know if you realise how racist this is. Only racists think they are not racists. Like the Joe saying how much he dislikes blacks but insisting he is not racist because he has a black friend.

Of course black people are going to vote for him, he is the first ever black candidate to have a chance. Not only blacks will vote but I believe many minorities will also, so America can say to the world: look, sometimes we elect realy stupid presidents an can do really stupid things around the world, but we can also see through cultural and racial differences and elect someone like Obama to change things for the better. Even if you dont trust everything he says, or dont believe he can do it, it is always better than letting the same policies that have ruined the USA carry on.

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So... Blacks and minorities voting for him because simply because he's black is not racist? Doesn't seem like an intelligent reason to vote for him to me, but it sure does seem racist... Also doesn't seem like the right way to go about proving a point to the world. But hey, to each their own.

What change is he proposing? I cannot seem to find any one who knows what this proposed change is.. And what are we hoping for? Can't find anyone who knows that either.

My apologies if I seem to be anything but curious. It is getting rather late and what seems fine to me may come across as mean-spirited in print.

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One of many reasons why I am voting for Obama.

Originally posted by Jenna
reply to post by TheOracle

 

So... Blacks and minorities voting for him because simply because he's black is not racist? Doesn't seem like an intelligent reason to vote for him to me, but it sure does seem racist... Also doesn't seem like the right way to go about proving a point to the world. But hey, to each their own.

What change is he proposing? I cannot seem to find any one who knows what this proposed change is.. And what are we hoping for? Can't find anyone who knows that either.

My apologies if I seem to be anything but curious. It is getting rather late and what seems fine to me may come across as mean-spirited in print.

Its not racism its just that people are happy to see Changes in politics. Its not really a color issue. Blacks among themselves are very racists actually!
Its the message of hope and reconciliation that pushes minorities to vote for him.
Of course there are many who will vote for him because he is black , like many would vote for mccain to keep a black folk away from office. But I am certain that if Obama had McCains agenda and Mcains Obama's, the minorities would go for McCain.

His changes are simple, spending more at home and less abroad, bring back the troops and take care of americans. Also stopping the oil addiction.
This means more schools, hospitals, better public services, fairer wages, less taxes...
Look at how many schools and clinics you can buy for the price of a bomber! Why would anyone vote for McCain? Only the really wealthy and xenophobes/racists in my opinions

His race plays some role in how I feel about him. African Americans have been through a lot and I'm so proud that they have someone to look up to. I know there are a lot of others to look up to but to see a African American hold the highest office in the land must make them very proud. For that I am happy for them and thus feel good that America can show the World that we are a nation without colors and we see each for the content of their character and not for the color of their skin.

So many African American leaders have been gunned down and finally they have someone to support and give them hope. For them I believe its a glass shattering moment if Obama wins. Not only for African Americans but for all other races, Asians, Hispanic, Natives etc. It gives them hope that the Welcome sign on the white house is a gesture that they can be owners of that sign and they can be the greeters and its possible that they can be President.

There story is one that will live forever. Can you imagine it, A Black Man from Kenya and a White Woman from America meet and form a child that grew up like you and I. Without all the benefits and status as a lot of the former President. I say be Proud Minorities (Of America) that in America all is possible.

Now. His color is not the reason I'm voting for him. I have been a Republican for awhile now. Voted for Bush (yeah silly) then decided not to vote the second time for him. This time around I was a Ron Paul supporter but since he dropped out I cannot support McCain and because I agree with Obama and believe the World has indeed changed we need a new face to lead us in this new world. McCain would be my Candidate if I were voting 60 years ago.

If you are allowing his race to prevent you from Voting for him, Please take a look at this video.
Race Should Not Matter

Link to Full Video
Obama/Biden 08

No. His race plays no factor whatsoever in my feelings about Senator Obama. I'm pretty much okay with most members of the human race; there are a few exceptions, of course -- those that I think are marginal in their qualifications as human.

Can shades of brown really make so much of a difference? I marvel at humanity's ability and desire to place so much emphasis on a SHADE, TONE or HUE.

We are doomed if these precepts make a true difference to us. No wonder the EBEs shun us.

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"scumbag". "McCrap". Balance. Truth. Insight.

All just collateral damage. One cuts the other, and the vengence is just, because then everyone is bleeding. Why not espouse a cage match for President? It makes as much sense as these rediculous labels.

I hate the race question. I hate that it is brought up but unfortunately it is going to have an affect on peoples vote, which is sad. But it's no different than a black man voting for a black man, woman for a woman, man for a man, or blah blah blah.

There is going to be bias in most people's decision. It's not just race and for many it's not at all. I think it's unfair that those of us who don't think that way are automatically thrown in with the rest of them just because we won't vote the for the "racially safe" guy.

With that being said, he has very little record to speak of but has some shady friends. THAT is what bothers me.

Good thread btw.

star and flag

No, he's a kook no matter what race he is.

Not to me. But it does to some people. I know a caucasian woman who is voting for him soley because he is black. She almost married a black man once; that is her given reason.

There is no talking to people like her. Race should not matter.

I'd pick Will Smith or Michael Jordan over him.
At least they don't have ties to socialist Kenyan politicians.
I don't think Mr. Smith would pull the ,"I'm black, so you HAVE to vote for me" card and he would sing "God bless America", not think God D*** America, with his hands at his sides.
I'm probably going to write in Ron Paul. At least he loves America.

It doesn't matter to me what race you are. If your white, black, asian, hispanic, or whatever you are, it is your stances and beliefs that I judge you on. If Ron Paul was black, it wouldn't matter to me, I would still idolize him. Race does not always lead to a certain mindset. IMO most blacks are liberal, but my favorite Supreme Court Justice is Clarence Thomas, a black conservative. I am a huge fan of Dr. Martin Luther King. Peaceful resistance is the most effect way to usurp a corrupt system and he realized this. I won't go on and on about minority persons that I admire, but the ones that I do have one thing in common. Character.

I always liked Colin Powell. I always thought he'd make a good president. Unfortunately the whole Iraq thing hurt him and i think he had good intentions at the time. It really hurt him. I just have alot of respect for people in our military. I've never served but have family members and friends that have. They are far more courageous than i could ever hope to be.

Just thought i'd throw that in.

Originally posted by Jenna
So... Blacks and minorities voting for him because simply because he's black is not racist?

Heres a news flash for you, blacks have always voted for the Democrats overwhelmingly because they have been the only part to give a damn.

The fact that his the first african american to have to chance of the presidency is significant but then again after 8years of Bush, 400 years of being discrimminated against (and counting) is more than a good enough reason in my opinion. Hey by the way Latinos support Obama overwhelmingly and in general latinos tend to be on non-friendly terms with blacks.

Doesn't seem like an intelligent reason to vote for him to me

yes voting in the Bush third term is the "intelligent" reason eh?

What change is he proposing?

Change in direction, thats what Obama is offering.

What about McCain?

Does his 95% voting record with Bush bring any change?

Does his 100year war bring any change?

Does the fact he intends to keep the same people from the Bush administration to look over the whitehouse any "change"?

What change does McCain offer??


[edit on 9-10-2008 by southern_Guardian]

Originally posted by Slothrop
whom are you supporting in the presidential election and does obama's race play a factor?

Obama, and I wouldn't care if he was green with purple polkadots! It sickens me that in this day and age, we are still hung up on race. If it were Flava Flav, then I still wouldn't have a problem with his race, but as for judgement and intelligence... We need to grow up and look beyond irrational and superficial prejudices and start to worry more about the future of this nation.

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There are a lot of people that are hung up on race....all over this country.

I won't vote for Obama. Not due to the color of his skin, but due to his stance on certain issues.

This may get me some heat, but here it goes. People (for the most part) will be politically correct during polls and phone surveys and focus groups and television sound-bites. They don't have to be politically correct in the voting booth. And, what they say doesn't always match what they think or how they vote.

JMO....

[edit on 10/9/2008 by skeptic1]

Race matters a lot to him, therefore yes, it matters to me too.

"That hate hadn't gone away; it formed a counternarrative buried deep within each [black] person and at the center of which stood white people--some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives. I had to ask myself whether the bonds of the [black] community could be restored without collectively exorcising that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams. Could Ruby [a black woman in Chicago] love herself without hating blue eyes?"

-- Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (page 195).

Here in Africa, though, the [white] tourists didn't seem so funny. I felt them as an encroachment, somehow; I found their innocence vaguely insulting. It occurred to me that in their utter lack of self-consciousness, they were expressing a freedom that neither Auma [his half-sister] not I could ever experience, a bedrock confidence in their own parocihalism, a confidence reserved for those born into imperial cultures."

-- Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (page 312)

Does Obama's 'race' affect how I feel about him ?

What IS his 'race', first off ?

But no, Obama's race (?) doesn't affect how I feel about him


but his 20 year membership of an anti-white church certainly does