Science Proving 'Global Flood Myth' true - Dating for Prehistoric Civilization Legitimized!

In the Sumerian Tablets the flood is very well explained especially if you read The Lost Book of Enki by Zecharia Sitchin .

You can find the book here is Free and you have a wide selection ..look under Zecharia Sitchin Folder .

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Also they just discovered new tablets in Iraq that explain the flood as well and what caused it :

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Hope this helps .

I've been following this research for years and it get's more exiting all the time.

If a laymans viewpoint on this is worthy of an consideration then you might want to take a look at this blog page.

Younger Dryas impact event

Leave a comment if you can.

Dennis

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Howdy Lisa2012

Regretably Sitchin is a completely unreliable translator and his ideas have been debunked for decades. His ideas make entertaining reading but have no basis in fact.

For the other link. They are just made up stuff based off unaccepted and discredited Sitchin materials. The conspiracy theme is laughable in the extreme.

Interesting fantasy thou

Contra-evidence coming in for this event

A new study at this thread

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Hmmm.... we will see about that.

Howdy TWISI

Are you going to do your own study? Well obviously not. LOL

I found the evidence for a cometary burst rather robust. I just didn't agree with the effects on the ground you wanted it to have. However science marches on. I suspect we'll see a counter-argument from the Firestone, etc camp in the near future.

I would suspect that in 2-3 years they will have a conference and fight out a common agreement on what all the data means and then agree to a common platform of future studies designed to settle the unknown questions regarding the event.

reply to post by Hanslune


This is what I posted on your thread that links to the study you are discussing:

"Hans -

I am unclear how this particular theory, based around charcoal sediments from various fires -- which they are trying to assert were caused by abrupt climate changes (?) -- debunks, or even impacts, Firestone et al's diamond fields in Ohio.

Am I reading this wrong? It seems like apples and oranges to me.

TWISI "

Perhaps we can do this over there? Or link to the study here so folks understand what it is we are taling about? Let's do that for now. The new theory Hans and I are discussing can be seen here.

Why do people always say "not only in the bible but by everyone else?" I get the bible thing but where else is it talked about? and what area on earth does not flood from time to time? People all over the world wrote about Katrina it does not mean that it was a global flood.

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Hey YS -

If you click on a couple of the first links posted after the OP you will have a better understanding of why, and what it is we are talking about. There is some really interesting research referenced throughout the thread that goes beyond, and supports, the two theories that we put together.

But the thread is dense, so if you are not into the first links it may find it too tedious. ( I hope not)

Cheers!

Evidence found for 11th AD century supernovas effect on the earth

The ice cores


The ice core methodology may also be used in the future to shed more light on the questions we have about the incidents during the end of the ice age which this thread concerns itself about

There hasn’t been a decent supernova in our part of the universe in living memory but astronomers in the 11th century were a little more fortunate. In 1006 AD, they witnessed what is still thought to be the brightest supernova ever seen on Earth (SN 1006) and just 48 years later saw the birth of the Crab Nebula (SN 1054).

Our knowledge of these events come from numerous written accounts, mainly by Chinese and Arabic astronomers (and of course from the observations we can make today of the resultant nebulae).

Now we can go one better. A team of Japanese scientists has found the first evidence of supernovae in an ice core.

reply to post by Hanslune


Tthis speaks to BFFT'S (Bigfatfurrytexan's) area of expertise more than mine. I will u2u him.

PS - You wear scarlet well.

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I like being evil, muhahahaha

I suspect that evidence for that evident might be found in the Greenland and perhaps even Iceland glaicers. I would also suspect that someone is doing that work as we speak.

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That is a very interesting article Hans. Thank you for sharing it. Being a "west texas" guy, NOx pollution is something i am all to aware of. It is that "white mist" that hugs the ground out this way so frequently, due to the refinery in my hometown (HUGE refinery, small town).

That would be a great causation in some of the issues seen over the previous 2 millenia, relative to rapid increase in health issues, as well as crop viability (and over all mental health of the world populace at large).

But I do not think we are seeing a causative factor in anything relative to the flood myth.

But it does bring out some interesting points relative to GRB's, and possible effects from them, even when not located very nearby. Along those same lines, there is a school of thought out there that ascribes as a source of low levels of gamma rays to the moon. It is an interesting concept that i am interested in seeing more thought and data on...but if the moon might be a source of gamma energy, you may have an additional mechanism to consider, relative to the article you linked.

And once again, BFFT knocks it... outta the park!

UPDATE!!! CURRENT STUDIES ARE PROVING OUT THE SUPPOSITION OF THIS THREAD!!! :pbj:

I would like to present:

We report abundant nanodiamonds in sediments dating to 12.9 ± 0.1 thousand calendar years before the present at multiple locations across North America. Selected area electron diffraction patterns reveal two diamond allotropes in this boundary layer but not above or below that interval. Cubic diamonds form under high temperature-pressure regimes, and n-diamonds also require extraordinary conditions, well outside the range of Earth's typical surficial processes but common to cosmic impacts. N-diamond concentrations range from 10 to 3700 parts per billion by weight, comparable to amounts found in known impact layers.

These diamonds provide strong evidence for Earth's collision with a rare swarm of carbonaceous chondrites or comets at the onset of the Younger Dryas cool interval, producing multiple airbursts and possible surface impacts, with severe repercussions for plants, animals, and humans in North America.

A link to this most scholarly of abstracts. A PDF of the full paper.

And this is just the beginning, folks. There was a lecture by the group of scientists who have been promoting this theory a few weeks ago and it is turning the old-school YD era extinction/sudden cataclysm presumptions on its head. And there is more coming out all the time evidencing that this event most definitely occurred

I am going to email our esteemed cometary impact specialist James Marusek (it is his years old theory about 'global' flooding that would have occurred were we to ever find evidence of a comtary impact/implosion over the NA ice shelf that BFFT and I posited early on in this thread) and see what he has to say about these incredibly significant developments....

But first I would like to thank Hanslune for turning me onto these latest studies (that's right....) and then finish the little party I am having inside.


EDIT TO: add PDF

[edit on 7-4-2009 by TheWayISeeIt]

reply to post by TheWayISeeIt


Puzzled as to what you are celebrating? There is no evidence supporting your ~global flood myth true-dating for prehistoric civilizations legitimized¬ what has been shown by the data is that one or more comets exploded over NA, the effects are still not fully understood, it'll take a number of years to check all the data - and find more

So global flood myth proved? Hardly

Dating for prehistoric civilizations? Nothing to do with it

What the heck are you on about? LOL

reply to post by Hanslune


Well, it boils down to causation.

IF there was a cometary impact that we have missed due to the primary's being on/over the ice shelf, then we can begin to extrapolate what likely happened due to this impact.

I have a friend who believes that we caught a comet in orbit, and it either "melted" or sublimated into our atmosphere en masse. I do not believe this would happen, but what would the effects be if it did?

Of high importance to me, however, is the possible link between the Carolina Bays and this YD event discussed in TWISI's info above.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
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Well, it boils down to causation.

IF there was a cometary impact that we have missed due to the primary's being on/over the ice shelf, then we can begin to extrapolate what likely happened due to this impact.

I have a friend who believes that we caught a comet in orbit, and it either "melted" or sublimated into our atmosphere en masse. I do not believe this would happen, but what would the effects be if it did?

Of high importance to me, however, is the possible link between the Carolina Bays and this YD event discussed in TWISI's info above.

Howdy Furry

What is not known now is where exactly the explosion/impacts took placed. I would speculate that it was a chain or group of comets - but more research should help in determing that. Yep the Carolina bays are probably a part of the solution. Some contra-data in those bays thou, with differing dates of creation, etc

The sublimating is interesting but I'm not sure how ice would do that - outside my area of knowledge. You might want to ask that question at Bad Astronomy.

There is some debated evidence now that the collapse of the Laurentian ice sheet resulting in an sudden influx of fresh water into the N Atlantic may not have been the collase of an ice bridge but a meteorite impact. Which really, changes very little.

reply to post by Essan


It changes very little depending on what you have decided the impact means. This thread began with putting togehter of a years old theory by a reknowned cometary impact specialist who said that there would indeed have been a 'global' flood at the beginning of the YD era if there was cometary impact on the NA ice shelf. At the time of his writing said theory THERE WAS NO IMPACT CRATER, so it was dismissed. There is a link to the paper on the first page and on the next page I link to the man's credentials which are formidable.

Late last year the nano-diamond evidence which proves said impact was beginning to turn up, and hold-up, and it appears to be gaining academic credence rather rapidly -- even on Hans' beloved Hall of Maa't.


@Hans - Oh, stop with the harnguing about the thread title. I have admitted that the second part of the title was unfortunate as it dilutes the acutal point of debate, but I was younger then.

Besides, you like it when I come around and toment you, admit it.