Possible reason to deny the aliens

Hello, this is my first post here. I think I know a reason why the U.S.A. government would hide the existence of any alien visitors.

I think they have learned from their previous mistakes. Nuclear Bomb was announced mainly as propaganda, right? Of course when whole World knew about this new weapon, lots of spies were send to steal the idea of Nuclear Weapon. I remember this couple, supposed man & wife, who sold the "recipe" of Nuclear Bomb to Russia or whatever.

The aliens, if existing, would have high technology, when they have probably travelled huge distances to here. I personally believe that those gray Zeta-Reticulians are real(Zeta-Reticuli is about 38 lightyears far from here).

The aliens, in my opinion, shouldnt meddle with our planet. These alien ships include very high technology and of course like any technology, it could be used as a weapon.

But in my opinion we humans are not meant to have such high technology yet. We have still lots of wars and conflicts and if even one person got this technology, he could do lots of destruction. The technology is not meant for aggressive beings because it is so high that it could clean the beings out of their planet.

If we assume that U.S. government is hiding aliens.. If they said that "Hello, people of Earth. The U.S. Government has met alien visitors"

That would automatically mean that the aliens had advanced technology. Some countries would send spies to steal this technology and it might end up to terrorists. In a way U.S. government would be wise to hide the existence of aliens, but we dont know if they have plans to destroy lots of people or if the aliens have some plans.

But personally I believe that if aliens were here, they wouldnt be like humans; selfish, aggressive.. Because if they were, with such high technology they would have destroyed themselves or they would have already attacked the planet when they supposedly came.

Just theorizing. Do you think it is kinda good thing to hide the aliens? In a way it isnt, in my opinion, but all Im saying is that humans are not ready for such technology, we did not make it. Our motives are usually selfish or aggressive. What we fear, we usually hate too.

This is my first post and can I speculate here? I dont have any proof to show about any aliens. Once I saw a light spot on nightsky, size of stars if you know what I mean. It appeared to be in Earth´s orbit because it was like more intense light than stars. So I stared at it, I thought it´s a satellite, but then it moved far from earth and kinda make a curve. The curve was smooth. It was kinda blue light, more blue than the stars were. It was those moments when you see something very unusual. I was sure it is satellite, but then it moved and I was like "HUh?!" I wasnt scared, I reacted maybe too slowly. Just later I begin to think what it was.

Ok , If I'd met an alien and if he /she / it? was friendly enough to give me technology, I'd ask for anitgravity, and a safe renewable energy source, I personally wouldn't ask for weapons, but some thing along the lines of free sustainable small power unit and and antigrav. So i could make a flying car that doesn't pollute.
I'd fly from home to work , and I'd do it everyday, I'd also wait for the media to come to me, I wouldn't go to them and then say to them all, get together at my work and I'll show you my flying car.
I'd then give them the schpiel about free nonpluting power, etc , and say we don't have to rely on fossil fuels anymore.
Yes I know the economy would suffer but only for a little while, the world wold get itself back into shapel.
the loudest voice would be from the Governments becasue they wouldn't be getting fat off the taxes they charge for fuel duty. The arabs wouldn't be making anymore money but they have enough already to last them a lifetime. And if the government tried to off me then it would show the world exactly what theyre capable off , and the people wouldn't stand for it.
We all too ready to have and want technolgy to kill each other, why let the aliens do it when we can do it ourselves, that way the aliens wont have to waste resources and their troops lives eh?. better to let infighting weaken an nme before taking the fight dont you think?

Originally posted by DataWraith
Ok , If I'd met an alien and if he /she / it? was friendly enough to give me technology, I'd ask for anitgravity, and a safe renewable energy source, I personally wouldn't ask for weapons, but some thing along the lines of free sustainable small power unit and and antigrav. So i could make a flying car that doesn't pollute.
I'd fly from home to work , and I'd do it everyday, I'd also wait for the media to come to me, I wouldn't go to them and then say to them all, get together at my work and I'll show you my flying car.
I'd then give them the schpiel about free nonpluting power, etc , and say we don't have to rely on fossil fuels anymore.
Yes I know the economy would suffer but only for a little while, the world wold get itself back into shapel.
the loudest voice would be from the Governments becasue they wouldn't be getting fat off the taxes they charge for fuel duty. The arabs wouldn't be making anymore money but they have enough already to last them a lifetime. And if the government tried to off me then it would show the world exactly what theyre capable off , and the people wouldn't stand for it.
We all too ready to have and want technolgy to kill each other, why let the aliens do it when we can do it ourselves, that way the aliens wont have to waste resources and their troops lives eh?. better to let infighting weaken an nme before taking the fight dont you think?

The antigravity could be modified to a weapon. Just like nuclear generator, the alien craft would have a generator to produce antigravity-waves. They could make a bomb out of the generator. This is what concerns me.

Originally posted by Cedric
The aliens, in my opinion, shouldnt meddle with our planet.

Not to be rude, but your opinion is irrelevant to the fact that they have been meddling for thousands of years. Tens of thousands, at least. (Read The Terra Papers linked in my sig.)

But in my opinion we humans are not meant to have such high technology yet.

Meant to by whom...? Who defines when we are "meant" to have anything? Things progress as things progress. And yes... Some here have technology that most would never entertain the possibility that we could have it.

We have still lots of wars and conflicts and if even one person got this technology, he could do lots of destruction.

More than one has tech you likely wouldn't believe.

The technology is not meant for aggressive beings because it is so high that it could clean the beings out of their planet.

There's that word, "meant," again... And again... Meant to by whom?

If we assume that U.S. government is hiding aliens.. If they said that "Hello, people of Earth. The U.S. Government has met alien visitors"

That would automatically mean that the aliens had advanced technology. Some countries would send spies to steal this technology and it might end up to terrorists. In a way U.S. government would be wise to hide the existence of aliens, but we dont know if they have plans to destroy lots of people or if the aliens have some plans.

Um... The aliens are involved with many countries. This USAcentric thinking doesn't fly. The NWO has an interest in these aliens, and they are worldwide. They hide the aliens to do what they do away from our awareness, so that they can manipulate us - with things like 9/11.

But personally I believe that if aliens were here, they wouldnt be like humans; selfish, aggressive..

Wow. What if the aliens revered such qualities...? What if they thought we were AWESOME because some of us are so dam' selfish and aggressive. I think it is presumptuous to assign reactions to the aliens. Fact is, we don't know their psychology.

Because if they were, with such high technology they would have destroyed themselves or they would have already attacked the planet when they supposedly came.

This, too, assumes much about the development of an alien society. How can you say that they would, necessarily, destroy themselves? The Klingons are a good example of "make-believe" aliens that were selfish and aggressive, yet a code of honor (of a sort) kept them from eradicating the species. Might this not be true of a real alien race?

Just theorizing. Do you think it is kinda good thing to hide the aliens? In a way it isnt, in my opinion, but all Im saying is that humans are not ready for such technology, we did not make it. Our motives are usually selfish or aggressive. What we fear, we usually hate too.

I think it is evil to hide these beings when they (or their tech) are being used to enslave us, exterminate us, manipulate us, and so on. But whether or not we are "ready," some of us have the tech.

This is my first post and can I speculate here?

Welcome. Sorry for being so...blunt. Yes, by all means, speculate. That is a big part of what this forum is for. Just be prepared for alternative perspectives to come forth. [smile]

Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by Cedric
The aliens, in my opinion, shouldnt meddle with our planet.

Not to be rude, but your opinion is irrelevant to the fact that they have been meddling for thousands of years. Tens of thousands, at least. (Read The Terra Papers linked in my sig.)

Oh yeah. I have heard that they might have customized our evolution too.

Originally posted by Amaterasu

But in my opinion we humans are not meant to have such high technology yet.

Meant to by whom...? Who defines when we are "meant" to have anything? Things progress as things progress. And yes... Some here have technology that most would never entertain the possibility that we could have it.

The point is that we are not evolved enough to make such technology. So in a way we are "not meant" to have it. Im not talking about any fateful decisions, but I cant find better term to describe it. To evolve in a point having such technology, we should survive our wars & crisis´ first.

I swear from the point the technology is known to exist world-wide, it will eventually leak by traitors and spies.. No matter what. And once it have leaked, more people have it meaning that the chances of human-extinction is much bigger. Imagine Al-Qaida having alien technology. Their so called holy war would become much bigger.

I agree that the "meant" is maybe the wrong word there. It is just not safe when aliens meddle with our world.

If U.S. government has alien technology, they maybe should announce it, but I then dont know. It is easy to trade your country for money.

This reason(tech leak) can be confirmed more with war of Iraq. The tech is too valuable to use there. One mistake and it could end up in wrong hands.

Btw, I think aliens are on Scientific Journey rather than a Conquering of Planets..

Originally posted by DataWraith
Ok , If I'd met an alien and if he /she / it? was friendly enough to give me technology, I'd ask ...a safe renewable energy source, I personally wouldn't ask for weapons, but some thing along the lines of free sustainable small power unit and and antigrav. So i could make a flying car that doesn't pollute....the loudest voice would be from the Governments becasue they wouldn't be getting fat off the taxes they charge for fuel duty. The arabs wouldn't be making anymore money but they have enough already to last them a lifetime. ...?

Hey, I think you've just answered the question!

Government's modus operandi is to create fear and confusion through false crisis, then offer fake 'solutions' which ultimately result in relinquishing our rights and freedom.

If a spritually and technologically advanced race of aliens were to make contact with Earth it would;

a) completely engage the imagination and attention of the entire population;
b) one way or the other unite the population, as the similarities of different races on Earth would become starkly apparant compared to this other race; and
c) potentially result in some REAL problems having REAL solutions.

Ultimately all these would result in diminishing the power of parochial powers with their weapons, fear and race wars.

I think if a superior race have made contact with the government they would give it up as a bad joke and either turn back home or try and find some one sensible to talk to...(I hope so).

Sorry if this is all bit speculative and off-base. I don't always post in this section but this topic is very interesting.

Originally posted by Cedric
Oh yeah. I have heard that they might have customized our evolution too.

Oh, indeed they have. The Terra Papers, which are the history of the Earth as given to the Hopi by an alien they rescued from a crash in 1947, in trust and in thanks for their hiding the alien from the military, who came shortly after the alien was rescued - The Terra Papers tell you all about it.

The point is that we are not evolved enough to make such technology. So in a way we are "not meant" to have it. Im not talking about any fateful decisions, but I cant find better term to describe it. To evolve in a point having such technology, we should survive our wars & crisis´ first.

FYI... Humans are not warlike as a rule. But they have been led to war through religion, mainly, by some of the aliens. They have used this to profit by supplying both sides of the wars. It also makes control easier. Look what they created in the US with 9/11. How they managed to get us to attack Saddam on that tide of manufactured anger...even though Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, even in their manufactured story.

Of course, we are not all purebred human (which is made, in part, with caninoid/lupine DNA and bird DNA). There are many of us with reptilian DNA, and so some of us are more prone to war than others.

I swear from the point the technology is known to exist world-wide, it will eventually leak by traitors and spies.. No matter what. And once it have leaked, more people have it meaning that the chances of human-extinction is much bigger. Imagine Al-Qaida having alien technology. Their so called holy war would become much bigger.

If there comes a human extinction, which is unlikely, it will be manufactured. What IS likely is extermination - which leaves a few. The Georgia Guidestones give clues to how many will be left after this effort. One would expect less than five hundred million, since that is the upper limit they will impose. So that means over six billion entities must lose their life on this planet, and that is their aim.

Al-Qaida is manufactured, too, by the way...

And as for the tech... With mind control, the ability to implant memories and wipe memories, they keep it pretty well under control. And again, it is worldwide. The nations are manufactured for control as well - remember the swell of "patriotism" induced in us here by their 9/11 monstrosity? That was nationalism that was used to manipulate us into war.

(Note... They are robbing us blind to pay the war suppliers, handing us over to the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) as indentured slaves, ever increasing the debt we, the slaves, must work to pay off.)

I agree that the "meant" is maybe the wrong word there. It is just not safe when aliens meddle with our world.

Aliens are not just meddling - they are and have been in control for eons. They control from behind the scenes. But do read the Papers and you will understand.

If U.S. government has alien technology, they maybe should announce it, but I then dont know. It is easy to trade your country for money.

Sure they SHOULD... But they won't, because once the aliens are outted, their ability to control us diminishes greatly. They want to keep control at least until the extermination takes place, and then the numbers will be manageable enough that they can do what Marduk (Ra) did: erase memory and implant subservient memories and a false history (read the Papers to grasp the full meaning of this).

This reason(tech leak) can be confirmed more with war of Iraq. The tech is too valuable to use there. One mistake and it could end up in wrong hands.

Ah, Cedric. I can see that you still buy into the idea that it's us humans against them humans. The "wrong hands" have the tech. And if they decide there is an advantage to giving some of it to one side or the other...that's what will happen. But truthfully, they will keep it and let us play out the dramas they initiated.

Btw, I think aliens are on Scientific Journey rather than a Conquering of Planets..

And I know that though there are some races that are more like what you describe...but that currently we are the slaves of a race that has been here a very long time. But they hide their "masterhood" to keep us believing we are "free."

Read The Terra Papers. Read them closely, and as an aid to following them, I went through and compiled a glossary which can be found here:

www.abovetopsecret.com... (It's posted twice because of editing issues.)



[edit on 8/1/2008 by Amaterasu]

The only reasons I can think of to 'deny' aliens is that they may ask for free health care and dental!

Damn them pesky illegal aliens!

IRM

FYI... Humans are not warlike as a rule. But they have been led to war through religion, mainly, by some of the aliens.

I have to disagree. I have seen true nature of humans from kindergarden to war for oil.

Even if you have 2 kids, they will eventually fight to prove themselves or attain higher respect. Humans nature..

Originally posted by Cedric

FYI... Humans are not warlike as a rule. But they have been led to war through religion, mainly, by some of the aliens.

I have to disagree. I have seen true nature of humans from kindergarden to war for oil.

Even if you have 2 kids, they will eventually fight to prove themselves or attain higher respect. Humans nature..

Oh, we have personal aggression, but kids on playgrounds do not carry their issues for days and weeks and years and (as in the case of the Catholic/Protestant thing in Ireland) centuries. Not as a rule, unless there are issues at home. Unwanted, abused children often react differently (that's why they don't want unwanted fetuses aborted...they want more of that in our ranks).

What fuels war is provocation on a very different level. Did you know that, in WWI, I think it was, that on Christmas or the eve thereof, the troops from both sides met spontaneously and exchanged gifts (cigs, alcohol, food) with one another and the upper ranks played hell trying to get them to go back to fighting?

Yes, certain humans are used to initiate war, and things like "duty" and "patriotism" are used to motivate the rank and file. But the rank and file are not warlike.

And some amongst us, like I said, are not Human. Often it is they who will pull the "duty" and the "patriotism" strings. "For God and country..."

[sigh]