Bill and Hillary Clinton withdraw campaign support for Obama.

Originally posted by jetxnet

They are Democrats that oppose Obama and believe Hillary was sold out by her party though she won the popular vote.

Those people to whom you refer are ignorant of the primary process. They need to spend less time wringing their hands because their candidate, who they and she thought was entitled to the nomination, lost and more time studying up on the process.

Here's a hint for the Clintonian Clueless. Popular vote does not determine the outcome of the Primary process NOR the General Election.

But really, don't let facts get in the way.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Night Watchman]

I have a source to say otherwise, where is yours?

Obama and the Clintons patch things up


[edit on 29-7-2008 by Cyberbian]

I'm just wondering as to who KERNEL KRACK KORN would have liked to have been the Republican nominee????

wait let me guess...what's his name the doctor, baptist preacher guy...can't recall his name anymore but he reminded me of Gomer Pyle.

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As usual, wrong again, BH. Yes we can conclude that a CNN blog author says Hilary Clinton is off the VP list. Try reading the entire article.

It looks like Barack Obama is narrowing his search for a vice president, and Hillary Clinton ain’t on the list.

First sentence, sheesh.

And again, the title isn't the entire post, as you well know. It's a teaser for the post, so to say it draws a conclusion is incorrect, especially if you read the entire context of the thread. We've even said over and over that we can't find any MSM articles to back this up. I have said that this is unsubstantiated and all we have to go on is Jet's word right now. I believe I said that on page 1, FYI.

You're really grasping at straws here to try and paint the conservatives of this site look bad, and as usual, you fail miserably.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by sos37]

There's no net gain for Obama for having Hillary on the ticket. His best choice is probably Gov. Tim Kaine(VA).

Hillary Fades as Obama's VP Choice

Kaine very high on VP shortlist

Hillary is probably preparing for the 2012 run with Sen. Jim Webb(VA). Two conservative Southern Democrats on the same ticket is the only way for Dems to take the White House.



[edit on 7/30/2008 by coolieno99]

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If she is, then I would conclude that maybe she thinks Obama is going to lose to McCain. The reason I say that is anyone who has watched politics knows that the incumbent is damn near impossible to force out of the running for second term nomination unless they've just royally screwed up.

CNN probably put out a teaser saying something to the effect: "Will Bill and Hillary withdraw their support for Obama and refuse to campaign for him?" Then after a commercial break the story that ensued had very little to do with that teaser. That's my best guess if no one can find anymore information to support the claim. I am a member of several sites that would definitely report this if it were true.


reply to post by Night Watchman


Facts indeed don't matter; votes may not either. But many, many former Democrats are not condoning the behavior of the DNC or Obama's campaign. We will be casting our votes elsewhere or staying at home. Look at the latest polls. McCain is gaining ground and Obama is losing his lead. That is a fact.

Originally posted by Fathom
I'm just wondering as to who KERNEL KRACK KORN would have liked to have been the Republican nominee????

3 K's. The reference is not lost on me. Though insulting, which is the way of the "new" conservatives, not the real ones, I will not respond in kind. It is a matter of honor. Something else missing from the new conservatives. The best person for the job is Romney. It matters little that he's a Morman, he would have gone a long way to healing the party and the country, not more of the same.

reply to post by Cyberbian


Just wanted to point out that your source is a month old article.

This supposedly happened today. (or yesterday)

Just thought you should know.

I watched CNN just about all day today, and what I heard was that Hillary was gearing up to campaign for Obama starting in a few short weeks and that she and Obama have had discussions regarding this and he told her to plan on traveling quite a bit in the fall. I would think that if there was ANY truth to what you said you heard, it would be all over the news big time. Do you think maybe you just misunderstood what you heard on CNN?

Originally posted by jetxnet

Searching ... finding nothing so far. If it can be confirmed, it will really hurt Obama's campaign and fuel rumors that Hilary might be toying with the idea of running as an independent for POTUS. Wouldn't that be an interesting race!

I hate it when CNN does that. They'll show on their station but not put some things on the web and am not sure why.

It's because they have different producers. If you are ever in Atlanta, you can take a tour of CNN and they show you all about the behind the scenes stuff.


I used to get angry at the same thing.

I wouldn't even call it news if The Clinton's did withdraw their support, Hillary and Bill are to busy trying to retire her $25,000,000 campaign debt, which is why she has been non-existent on the campaign trail. And what's wrong with Obama showboating himself all over Europe and the US? He's trying to win the vote, right? I loved watching John McCain on TV b*tching about how only a president should be making speeches about peace and change. I waited forever for him to start sucking his thumb and was sadly disappointed.

Misleading Title - Bill and Hillary Clinton withdraw campaign support for Obama

Designed to provoke.

This is probably the initial story that got you confused:

AP Report

Here is what Hillary will be doing for Obama's campaign:

CNN Report

I won't speculate myself but some people are saying that other people are pulling stuff out of thin air. I can't think of a better way for political operatives to:

1) Test the water
2) Agitate
3) Notate reactions

I look at this like it is a game....just like some of you most certainly do.

Originally posted by jetxnet
On CNN, it stated that both Bill and Hillary said they will no longer support or campaign for Obama, but did not say a reason as to why.

I believe the answer to that question is quite obvious.

He was never going to pick her as VP and now this has been confirmed. The timing coincides with all the VP chatter of late and I believe by now it is clear to her that she's not getting back into the White House this time. So...like a child that takes its ball away during a game that it appears to be losing, Hillary has allegedly withdrew the support she reluctantly gave.

Classy.

Understandably she's feeling a bit crestfallen mixed with a little sour grapes.
No big mystery or surprise really.

Thanks for the heads up, though it will quickly become old news once McCain and Obama choose VPs.

- Lee

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Ah so this has yet to even be confirmed and is just speculation?
Thanks for the information.

I should have known better.

- Lee

Not exactly shocking. If you believe Obama has any chance of winning you are crazy. The Clintons are nasty 1 generation removed inbreeding rednecks that are power hungry like Stalin or Hitler. They want a chance for Billary to run in 2012. So I am sure they will stay out.

reply to post by sos37


Mr. Obama is a joke. McCain is sooo boring. Clinton was so annoying. To be honest, long time Rep. view holder, I might have voted for Clinton. I think she is the one we needed and the world needed. I do not agree with the whole socializing everything, however, my theory was.. A woman leading the U.S. could have destroyed radical Islam. Don't those woman usually get treated as second class citizens? Then they would find out that a woman could lead America. You want to talk about hitting Radical Islam where it sleeps...

If you have ever not had the luxury of pissing a female family member or wife off, you know what i'm talking about


If she had the courage to go on the ballot, i would vote for her...

Originally posted by sos37

And again, the title isn't the entire post, as you well know. It's a teaser for the post, so to say it draws a conclusion is incorrect, especially if you read the entire context of the thread. We've even said over and over that we can't find any MSM articles to back this up. I have said that this is unsubstantiated and all we have to go on is Jet's word right now. I believe I said that on page 1, FYI.

You're really grasping at straws here to try and paint the conservatives of this site look bad, and as usual, you fail miserably.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by sos37]

C'Mon..there wasn't even a question mark in the thread title. "Teaser" you say? What if I was to start a thread that claims that John McCain and Larry Kraig were having a love affair? Let's see....I could say a friend of a relative saw it on MSNBC so it must be true...even if MSNBC didn't have the story, they propably just covered it up.

Doesn't there have to be at least a modicum of veracity to a thread title?
Oh...I forgot who I was talking to ...

Yet another thread started for the sole purpose of an Obama slam session by Jetxnet, sos37, Lloyd and the like.

Honestly I'd be interested in any criticism you have of Obama if any of it wasn't irrelevant or crazy BS.

I am not much of a conspiracy theorist, but the manner in which you guys disregard the truth and relentlessly post crap is starting to make me believe that you are genuinely paid GOP propagandists.

As for BH...I respect the way she (most of the time) calmy responds to the BS with facts. I don't have the same patience for BS.

reply to post by Kernel Korn
No doubt guy, add something useful or GET LOST.
What is everyones thoughts on Hillary running as an Independant?

reply to post by maybereal11
I saw the same statement on Yahoo!News. So dont be so judgemental. I was talking to my wife about it a 9:30 MT(am). Cant see to find it now though, and that is a bit odd...



[edit on 31-7-2008 by spookjr]