This whole thing is a scam.

As stated previously in the thread, one a thread reaches 2 pages, you can no longer see the posts in reply mode. That only works when it is still on the first page. The posts are still there, just hidden from view.

Originally posted by Marshall Ormus
reply to post by dreams n chains

 

His posts are still accessible through the member area, I've flushed temp files/cookies, logged out and back in and they are still there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Then click the numbers that start with 47. Post will show up near the bottom of the page under the big white expanse, if you still can't see them then your internet browser is either overly restrictive or not working properly.

Thank you, Marshall Ormus! I was finally able to see Trog81's posts! Now the question remains as to why can't we see them in the threads?

Having been through a situation like Trog's once myself, I think his posts read well... they sound sincere and awe struck. Good that he does not care if we all believe them or not because there is definitely an over abundance of nasty remarks made to them. Yet there are a few that relate and... not only believe... but have seen the same thing.

Many of the nasty and/or disbelieving remarks are coming from members who are judging the validity of the OP by not receiving a U2U from him. HA! The OP cannot even have their posts to show up so I can guess that U2Us are lost in ATS too.

All UFO pictures....... all UFO videos....... are easy to not believe in. 99.99999+ percent of human beings will never believe in UFOs.... until it is seen first hand by your own eyes. There is no "believing"... there is only "knowing" when it comes to such matters.

Many of us cannot see Trog81 posts....... does that mean they do not exist? Heh!

Real or not Trog... why the heck would you delete them from the original source? Dude! Why?

What doesn't fit his story for me about the pics, that he said he took on same day of 28th (unless I read this wrong) is that one pic is dated as being taken on 28th at 10:35 AM and the other is dated 25th 9:34 PM - both from a blackberry

He also said he wants to keep his identity anonymous, but clearly shows pics of his house. I would have cropped the houses off to keep my identity less public ...

[edit on 29-7-2008 by violet]

reply to post by prestonberryworth

The OP is (most likely) on global ignore. He has not been banned. And his posts can still be read by going to his profile and clicking the green POSTS button.

Try this

The photos don't look legit to me, but so what? There have been plenty of snotty little toerag posters running amok that have been far more of a nuisance than Trog81, and they didn't vanish. (And plenty of honest posters who get shamelessly trashed by people just looking to bully someone around…) Then again, I'm only an intermittent poster here anyway. Maybe it's more common a practice than I've seen. ...Or maybe the mods were just particularly peeved today. Altogether though, I'd rather decide for myself who I'd prefer to ignore.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Siblin]

hmm
i dont quite understand what is going on in this thread

reply to post by BlackOps719


Then you didn't read them all, two or three pages back showed a wire mesh that looked exactly like the craft, that was made in maya3d. This has to be the biggest batch of gullible people in the world, If I could advertise a miracle drug on here id be rich. Everyone is grasping for something to be real. As many people stated pictures are not going to prove the existence of UFOs. Not when a 12 year old can fake being at the beach with the Jonas Brothers(my daughter does it all the time with photo shop and green screen) If pictures were proof then thee would be no need to look for bigfoot. We have him on video. I just want to shame you people for being fooled by every hoaxer that comes along, that is exactly why this site is being targeted, they know you guys would fall for a cake pan thrown up in the air and photographed. Before a thread gets out of control everyone needs to be a little more realistic. The pic was faked, easily I might add. There is on reason to run a picture thru Photoshop, hell its not even the default viewer on a pc...I don't think it can be the default viewer and resizing it is a joke. Photoshop is for one thing, HOAXING YOU GUYS.. you will never see the picture straight from his phone either. But here we go again this will die down and we will just wait for the next guy to get his jollies off at your all's expense.

this is a test to see if i can see the original post because its very annoying and now i'm running out of words.

reply to post by prestonberryworth



I'm replying out of curiosity as instructed by the "hint" in the opening post of this thread.

I'll edit this post to include my thoughts on what (if anything) appears as a result of this reply.

EDIT: No additional posts appear as a result of having replied. I read all of the posts herein. Evidently, someone posted photos which may or may not have been artificial (a hoax seems probable based on the meshes and what not, but far from definitively proved), claimed to have deleted the originals, and then got their posts deleted or hidden somehow. Unless the photos somehow violated copyrights or permission rights, I have to say that in my opinion leaving the original posts intact so as to allow debate and discussion would allow us to more effectively deny ignorance than for them to turn up missing.


[edit on 7/29/2008 by AceWombat04]

[edit on 7/29/2008 by AceWombat04]

I don´t understand...
More posts visible when you reply?

The OP is misleading. Odd that the posts are not visible though.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by Psychopump]

Originally posted by RUFFREADY
Most of the ships where "orange" glows that faded in and out. These ships were but a minor part of the main fleet. Our government was going bonkers trying to keep track of all the ships coming in from "out there" ..fast walkers...

You know, I once saw what looked like a UFO and it was a orange and glowing. It was during a storm and the power had gone out. Huh, weird...

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Edit: apparently he's on global ignore, oh well.

[edit on 29/7/2008 by Sparkly_Eyed777]

[edit on 29/7/2008 by Sparkly_Eyed777]

In the second picture, if you zoom in and look at the individual pixels that make up the body of the ship... you will see that these pixels are all arranged very neatly and in straight order, while the rest of the photo has broken and uneven pixelization and disorderly jpeg artifacts.

This clearly states to me that this is a hoax. I wish I could be nice about it, but it is what it is by itself.

I don't claim to be an expert, but come on if you've ever played a videogame or done anything at all with computer generated images, you know what I'm talking about.

I do think that a lot of people here want to see the truth. That we want to establish something of proof because our entire lives we've felt lied to in a sense. We've read articles on so many conspiracies, done a lot of research ourselves, and then we wait to see the truth.

I don't blame people for not believing. I really don't because a lot of us want to believe but we just don't want to be made a fool of so we post asking more questions.

ATS should issue some kind of section for some well known analyzer's to either debunk info (pictures, videos...etc) or bring a lot of support to the truth. That way if someone comes on here who is a new user they can just submit their findings to the mods (analyzers) and then have one thread started.

It also would be nice if a rule was set that you can't post possible ufo pictures until you've stuck around for at least a week. I do know this would take some time away from finding out the truth in some aspects; but with all the fake posting coming on here it would be nice to issue that rule every now and then (maybe cycle it up?).

I think personal attacks on the particularly people who post what claim to be ufo images or videos is uncalled for. But taking a step back and voicing your opinion is different then personal attacks.

If I had a video of Big Foot. I would keep the raw form of video data as is, and same goes with any pictures that I happen to take. Raw data is always easiest to find the truth in, and this also should be one of the rules to putting up postings of possible ufo sightings or ufo videos.

in your point or view maybe

reply to post by prestonberryworth


What do you mean? Reply like this and new posts will magically show up? This sounds weird but I'll take the bait. Is this even the right thread? I'm getting confused.

for crying out loud - the OP is on ` global ignore `

this is an staff action to attempt to deal with a poster who is in gross violation of the T&C and is resfusing to work with the staff to address issues

the ` global ignore ` is SUPPOSED to reduce drama - by giveing the staff time and privacy to settle the issue

telling people to exploit a glitch in the board code that unmasks hidden posts and comment on the situation does not help matters -

so please just drop it - and let the staff work

PS - i have not propperly read the other thread from this poster - but the pic linked to in this one raises some questions in my mind

reply to post by prestonberryworth


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Originally posted by alienj
reply to post by BlackOps719

 

Then you didn't read them all, two or three pages back showed a wire mesh that looked exactly like the craft, that was made in maya3d. This has to be the biggest batch of gullible people in the world, If I could advertise a miracle drug on here id be rich. Everyone is grasping for something to be real. As many people stated pictures are not going to prove the existence of UFOs. Not when a 12 year old can fake being at the beach with the Jonas Brothers(my daughter does it all the time with photo shop and green screen) If pictures were proof then thee would be no need to look for bigfoot. We have him on video. I just want to shame you people for being fooled by every hoaxer that comes along, that is exactly why this site is being targeted, they know you guys would fall for a cake pan thrown up in the air and photographed. Before a thread gets out of control everyone needs to be a little more realistic. The pic was faked, easily I might add. There is on reason to run a picture thru Photoshop, hell its not even the default viewer on a pc...I don't think it can be the default viewer and resizing it is a joke. Photoshop is for one thing, HOAXING YOU GUYS.. you will never see the picture straight from his phone either. But here we go again this will die down and we will just wait for the next guy to get his jollies off at your all's expense.

Not really sure why this was directed toward me, since I have been saying the same thing and agreeing with you the whole time. My first post said this was a hoax due to the fact that the OP "mysteriously" deleted the original camera phone pics but managed to keep the ones he ran through Adobe photoshop.

I didn't even know there was a global ignore lol.

Wow cool..

[edit on 29/7/2008 by Sparkly_Eyed777]

[edit on 29/7/2008 by Sparkly_Eyed777]