28-10-2011

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght

Originally posted by berenike
No fries - they never go well with bs.

Well... we'll say all square and leave it at that.

OK - so I mis-spelt buns.

Your point?

OK then, seriously:

DK ‘It was and is still my best advice. Take it or leave it. Your call.’

Your best advice didn’t exactly work out for you, did it? Actually, now you are back, would it hurt to tell us which caves in Nepal you went to? The only ones I know about are tourist attractions and/or holy shrines. Mahendra, Harpan River, Gupteshor Mahadev, Chameri, Milarepa, Moon Water, Nglesho, Mustang, for instance. It can’t have been the caves near Lo Manthang either.

DK ‘Shielding from electromagnetic waves as best as you can, gathering groups together to work on said projects…’

What sort of groups? Your group was, presumably, educated and middle-class (doctors, dentist etc) and the best you could do was head off to caves in an unstable country.

Do we all need to befriend our neighbourhood scientists or the local chemistry class? How do you expect ordinary people to work in small groups to find the solution to a worldwide bombardment of electromagnetic waves?

Perhaps you mean pressure groups? If that is the case, will you join in since you have ’inside information’? Or are you going to sit in your cave while the ’troops’ go into battle? Oh, hang on, someone’s done that already.

DK ‘Nope wrong again. My example is how I was doing it. If you note, I started posting because I was almost ready and I felt guilty.’

And in response to my suggestion of Chislehurst Caves:

DK ‘Oh yes, go hide in the caves that millions of Londoners will pour into. Christ almighty, you want a side order with that brain snip you just had?’

Well, if they do all pour into the caves, it might be at your suggestion. And what’s wrong with it? Presumably your feelings of guilt would prompt you to want millions of people to be saved. But are you saying you’d like a cave all to yourselves? Just you and your little group? Sounds a bit elitist to me.

*sighs*

Look, I appreciate the sceptics but why fill up this thread with mostly tit for tat posting? It's annoying. I haven't made up my mind but I'm a bit offended by posters who insinuate that if I did make up mind that DK was genuine then I'd be an idiot. I respect your opinions, I do, but I feel that we are wasting valuable time by arguing about it. I think asking fro proof is a waste of time - no one on these forums ever has proof - hell there is no proof for 99% of the theories on this site


There are a few posters on ATS that I respect deeply, one of them is Dan Tanna - his advice and posts in the survival forums have been invaluable to me and damn smart. The fact that he believes is for me compelling.

My question is this: Assuming I believe - why am I not protected from the "images" by just believing they are fake? I mean if in 2011 a staged alien invasion were to happen, I'd know it was bunk - therefore I wouldn't panic, wouldn't that be enough? Why go through all the trouble of going high and deep?

Anyway, I'll keep reading and learning and probably being annoyed. *grins*

reply to post by Merigold


The information they are going to send is direct to your mind, not your eyes, ears, skin ect. It is going to be absolute and overwhelming. Imagen if you will, being laid in a hide that you know is absolutely self contained, and still feeling billions of ants biting your skin and getting the pain sensations to go with it? are you going to be able to take that or any other of their mind games for days on end? add to that hearing things, add to that seeing the ants that are biting you... could you cope with just being sat there saying 'its not real' over and over for days on end?

I couldn't. Hence I advocate getting far and away from civilisation as you can, as deep under ground as you can, and stay there for at least 5 days. Thats what I am doing and others are too. Thats my reason for saying underground. Its your best chance at being shielded from this man made madness.

Originally posted by berenike
OK then, seriously:
The only ones I know about are tourist attractions and/or holy shrines. Mahendra, Harpan River, Gupteshor Mahadev, Chameri, Milarepa, Moon Water, Nglesho, Mustang, for instance. It can’t have been the caves near Lo Manthang either.

Guess thats why I never saw any one up there. Dammit, we didn't pick a tourist trap. Shucks how silly.

DK ‘Shielding from electromagnetic waves as best as you can, gathering groups together to work on said projects…’

What sort of groups? Your group was, presumably, educated and middle-class (doctors, dentist etc) and the best you could do was head off to caves in an unstable country.

We debated shielded houses, but turned that down as military/police units will sweep in the aftermath. Houses can also be easily destroyed as can their occupants. We debated Canada/USA but figured too unstable, and had a nepalese family willing to help us out in the form of one of our groups contacts, as well as met up with ex-gurkhas I knew from my younger days. In all, we thought that the Islamic push and the communists would be defeated by the military so chose to go. Simple really.

Do we all need to befriend our neighbourhood scientists or the local chemistry class? How do you expect ordinary people to work in small groups to find the solution to a worldwide bombardment of electromagnetic waves?

Work in small groups to protect yourselves.

Perhaps you mean pressure groups? If that is the case, will you join in since you have ’inside information’? Or are you going to sit in your cave while the ’troops’ go into battle? Oh, hang on, someone’s done that already.

I mean just that. Keep your self safe. Only fictional characters can save the world by themselves.

And in response to my suggestion of Chislehurst Caves:

DK ‘Oh yes, go hide in the caves that millions of Londoners will pour into. Christ almighty, you want a side order with that brain snip you just had?’
Well, if they do all pour into the caves, it might be at your suggestion. And what’s wrong with it? Presumably your feelings of guilt would prompt you to want millions of people to be saved. But are you saying you’d like a cave all to yourselves? Just you and your little group? Sounds a bit elitist to me.

and when the bigger and stronger want your food / water / goods, what then? when the masses want your wife? daughters? you? what are you going to do? appeal to their common good? ok, good luck on that.

I am having my own cave with my own group with our own supplies with our own agenda. What the rest of you do, well thats up to you.

Howdy-do everybody...

Supposedly we're all adults here, how's about we start acting like it...

This tit for tat posting stops...if the issue cannot be discussed without personalities coming into play, this thread will be closed. It's all up to you.

Fair enough seagull. Cannot say its not welcome. Merigold, check your u2u box.

reply to post by seagull


Forgive me, I hadn't realised I was doing anything wrong.

I asked DK some questions, he answered and I wanted some elaboration on his answers, which he's given me.

I started my last post 'seriously' because we had a couple of silly posts previously. I thought they were funny.

I certainly don't want my behaviour to be responsible for this thread being closed. If I want to know anything else, I will hope someone else asks the relevant questions.

Of course, I had some points to make, but, honestly, I thought the discussion was good-humoured.

Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
reply to post by Merigold

 

The information they are going to send is direct to your mind, not your eyes, ears, skin ect. It is going to be absolute and overwhelming. Imagen if you will, being laid in a hide that you know is absolutely self contained, and still feeling billions of ants biting your skin and getting the pain sensations to go with it? are you going to be able to take that or any other of their mind games for days on end? add to that hearing things, add to that seeing the ants that are biting you... could you cope with just being sat there saying 'its not real' over and over for days on end?

This makes no sense then. If it was "beamed" into our minds, which ifit was, then anybody videotaping and rewatching would see that everything is bogus. If it just made us hallucinate, then viewing it afterwards would show us that it never really happened. Same goes for when you take drugs like '___'. Sure, you see, hear, and feel crazy stuff all around you, but if you watched a video of you "tripping", then you would clearly see you didn't actually experience that.

reply to post by TravisT

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But if every one is mindless who is going to tape anything? and if every one is going to be effected.... who is going to believe any footage? I mean come on, there are millions of posts about the validity of 9-11 footage alone. Let alone the rest of it.
Add the man made damage, who on earth is going to sit through a video of people running around killing each other, things swooping through the skie at random points and say 'well its not real' ?



[edit on 24-10-2008 by D4rk Kn1ght]

reply to post by D4rk Kn1ght


Hi D4rk Kn1ght!
I'm so glad you came back to ATS!

I've read all of this thread and you've given some good information in a way thats easier to understand.
Thanks!
Take care!

No problem at all, and I will take good care. Your kind thoughts are appreciated.


I'll be here till two weeks tomorrow. Then adios again. So if you got any questions feel free to u2u me or drop them in here.

[edit on 24-10-2008 by D4rk Kn1ght]

I like that date, I believe that is when Earth is supposed to reciece a very large Sunspot. They say all communication can be shut down wouldn't that be peachy no one being able to communicate, I think panic is the word right there don't you?

reply to post by observe50


Panic? if world wide comms shut down that date or the day before and on top of their plan, I think the screams would be audible from deep underground.

reply to post by D4rk Kn1ght


Sure it's ok when you have the money to travel to such destinations, but what about people like us who don't have an abundance of money.

reply to post by BlackMumba


You must be from a slightly younger generation.....

Me? I'm gonna' take advantage of my "duck and cover" training....thoughtfully provided by my elementary schools....scurry under my desk, and kiss my butt buh-bye.

reply to post by D4rk Kn1ght


hi dark night i find this very interesting an do beleive in what your saying im a newzealander do you think the main cities here will be affected i wonder cheers

Originally posted by BlackMumba
reply to post by D4rk Kn1ght

 

Sure it's ok when you have the money to travel to such destinations, but what about people like us who don't have an abundance of money.

Then plan with what you have. I have said to others in u2us this advice. Don't panic. You still have time to slowly gather a few essentials for survival i.e. water filters, shelter making equipment, fire lighting/starting/making gear. You don't have to go large - just gather what you can, and above all, find a location that is far enough away from civilisation so that you can go 'on holiday' (just like my sister in law and brother plan to do). It doesn't need to be all at once. You have a while yet.

reply to post by MrPenny


You must be of my dads generation. His response was I'm staying at home under the table. Duck and cover son!' I was puzzled until i went to google and saw those old, real old films from long long time ago.

Originally posted by danzpost
reply to post by D4rk Kn1ght

 

hi dark night i find this very interesting an do beleive in what your saying im a newzealander do you think the main cities here will be affected i wonder cheers

Yes. Thats why certain folks have u2u'd me with some real peachy places to hide out in NZ should we be there at the time it all goes down. However, I feel that New Zealand has an abundance of places for folks to hide out, and they should be alot better off than most.