What a Shame: Budweiser is a sellout

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Well Holmgren is my home teams coach, but I've always been a big fan of Green Bay and Bret. He is still an awesome player and all that I saw missing last year is he didn't seem quite as hungry all the time. After realizing the fun was over he wants back to prolong it once more. I think they should either let him go or give him a shot again. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Originally posted by XTexan
We loose 50% of the market share in an industry and no one seems to care...

No I care. I just feel the opposite. When an industry that does nothing positive for society goes under, I cheer. It's like hearing a casino went bankrupt. A glorius day. I'm not deny your right to drink. I just don't think anyone should.

I'm sure most anti-smokers would be thrilled if RJ Reynolds went out of business...

Vas

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Well believe it or not Vasilis most of us don't believe they don't do anything good for society. While there may be some bad sides to alcohol there are many good things about companies & jobs that don't have anything to do with the consumption of their primary product.

Besides they are not going to quit selling beer, as a matter of fact they are going to bring in some of their own beers that might even be better than Bud and they might even sell more beer. Not to forget the people that sold the company made plenty of money doing it - so nobody loses except the little workers and they still sell the product you love to hate.

Personally I rather see all the Banks & insurance companies go broke, because they destroy more lives and create slavery, but that's my wish.

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Originally posted by Vasilis Azoth

Originally posted by XTexan
We loose 50% of the market share in an industry and no one seems to care...

No I care. I just feel the opposite. When an industry that does nothing positive for society goes under, I cheer. It's like hearing a casino went bankrupt. A glorius day. I'm not deny your right to drink. I just don't think anyone should.

I'm sure most anti-smokers would be thrilled if RJ Reynolds went out of business...

Vas

You say they do nothing good for society, I see jobs, money, benifits, community projects, etc... If you were proposing to replace one industry with another then... maybe... but to lose the industry hurts the economy.

And the industry, in this case, did not go under. They were purchased by a foriegn company, a company that will continue to sell alcohol in the states, the difference is the money made will go overseas also... not be spent here...

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Vasilis Azoth

 

Personally I rather see all the Banks & insurance companies go broke, because they destroy more lives and create slavery, but that's my wish.
[edit on 27-7-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Amen to that

[edit on 27-7-2008 by XTexan]

Originally posted by XTexan

If our domestic beers cant even hold their ground here, what chance to our other industries stand?

[edit on 27-7-2008 by XTexan]

Well, if our "other industiries" produced as much # as bud does? None. Thankfully most american industires can produce a quality product.

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I don't drink beer, however i do agree with you, it's a shame that they sold out. It will lead to another rise in unemployment, we all know they're going to bring in a multitude of "their people" and toss the American workers to the side. And you're right the country will lose revenue, in more ways than one.


I understand you're feeling of refusing to purchase their product as long as they are foriegnly owned, and that is about the only way that you can protest the sale. However that in itself will have an impact on any Americans that are lucky enough to keep their jobs, if sales go down it will be be the American workers that are let go first.


It's terrible that in such a short amount of time we have went from a highly industrious nation to what we are now, a nation filled with coporations outsourcing jobs to other countries, moving manufacturing plants to other countries,and selling out to foriegners, leaving us in the terrible economic shape that we're in.

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I have to completely agree with that. I call my brew Amberjack Pale Ale. You drink it, you produce a bud.

To the OP...... I also think it's a shame, and perhaps a harbinger of the downfall of the American Way. While I've never cared for Bud, the image has always made me think of NASCAR and Football (we're not talking "footie" here) and things American. I don't imagine it was Budweiser's desire to be sold to a foreign company..... but so it goes. No fault to the foreign company either. Just business. Still, a shame.

Originally posted by SystemiK
I brew my own beer and it's never been my opinion that Budweiser meets the criteria of 'beer'.

I can only hope the new owners have a better idea of what constitutes a good brew than the previous ones...

I have been researching a winter project. I may just take this up. How successful are you? Is it good?

I posted the Headline the next day but no topic. Just ignore rude idiot's that are unhappy with their miserable life.

How could a company that holds 50% of the market, just sellout like that it's ridiculous. I know for a fact though, that Altria(an American company) owns a minority stock of Miller, its around 27-28% so I guess its still a little bit American

Its not that bad! Bud sucks and like some have already stated, any dinker of real beer would never so much as even pick one up. (unless to move it out of the way for a real beer.) InBev makes some really good beers that most Americans have never heard of. And this buy out will open up the american market for a ton of new beer choices. Also, InBev has promised not to change bud at all, meaning it will be the same crap that has been brewed here all along.

If anything, I would expect the price of Bud to drop, to make the transistion a little easier to swallow(pun intended) for americans that just got to have their bud. Dont get upset just yet, after all every good beer is already an import. So anyway, I am going to go grab a Guiness.

Cheers!

I agree with the original poster. This could cause serious problems for the home of Budweiser brewery , St. Louis. They have already lost a lot of corporations There is no guarantee that the corporate headquarters will stay in St. Louis. Probably many jobs will be cut for the local population. Anheuser Busch brewery has been very important to the city. They have contributed to the economy, to buildings, to charities, to many St. Louis institutions. Will that end? Probably. It's not about the taste of the beer, it's about having another foreign company take over an American company and put people out of jobs.

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I understand this as being upsetting. Good beer or not, it is an American company. I would be like watching Ford be sold to Honda.

From what I understand, in recent years the sales have really flatlined, or gone in teh negative. Nothing A.B. can do about it. Competition just has gotten too tough, with so many microbrews popping up all over, and people getting into local beers.
And brewing their own.


From what I understand, the new owners are not changing anything. Not closing plants, changing the formula, pretty much it is left being like it is.

Personally i only worry about this if my grandpa stops getting his free passes to Busch Gardens because he retired from there since i dont like their beer i dont really mind.

probably owned by NWO tools as part of taking down america.

Good i hope it continues until we are so irate we get into this war thats coming and change the whole system or die.

MY friend said we cant stop outsourcing...but why cant america just deny their business. THat will cause some new companies to start up in the US. no? PErhaps im not thinking of something. But that seems like the ultimate answer to american business moving elsewhere. Just dont allow that. Of course the globalists must be defeated first.

I'm surprised that no one has posted this before, but the beer you know as Budweiser is derived from a recipe developed by the Czechs.

I'm not sure if the original brand is available in the States (I'm in Ontario, Canada) but we sell it over here as "Czechvar"

It's probably one of the best beers I've ever tried, and I've tried quite a few. I really don't drink the American version unless I am out at a bar, and then it's only by default. I have to say that the marketing of Budweiser goes a LONG way as to explaining it's market share.

But back to the topic at hand - this is just another face of globalization, it happens in every industry. Mergers are commonplace, and happen all the time.

I'm sure that there are stipulations in place regarding beer recipes (meaning that they can't be changed), and maybe stipulations on brewing (meaning that the original breweries can't be closed) so this may not be a bad thing. Or it may be a very bad thing. I guess it all depends on how you look at it.

Originally posted by space cadet
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I vow I will never purchase another product from anhueser busch. Period. I like liquor better anyway! LOL!

I have done the same thing. For more than 20 years I have been a loyal AB supporter (stiens, alcohol, memorabilia, NASCAR support, and more) and my motto has always been that if it didnt have that sacred eagle on it, I was not going to drink it. That all changed last week when this sale went through. I have since began trying to adopt a taste for Coors Light and Sam Adams various blends. I will keep my AB products, but I am done with any further purchases. I have nothing against Belgium; from what I understand it is a great country with good people. I just would prefer to support a local brewer that hires local workers.

Originally posted by wheresthetruth

Originally posted by space cadet
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I vow I will never purchase another product from anhueser busch. Period. I like liquor better anyway! LOL!

I have done the same thing. For more than 20 years I have been a loyal AB supporter (stiens, alcohol, memorabilia, NASCAR support, and more) and my motto has always been that if it didnt have that sacred eagle on it, I was not going to drink it. That all changed last week when this sale went through. I have since began trying to adopt a taste for Coors Light and Sam Adams various blends. I will keep my AB products, but I am done with any further purchases. I have nothing against Belgium; from what I understand it is a great country with good people. I just would prefer to support a local brewer that hires local workers.

Agreed, I will be switching to either Coors or Sam Adams, most likely Sam Adams. I have drank Budweiser for 10 years now, and it pains me stop... old habits die hard. As he states above I would much rather support a local brewer. In my dream world I'd like to see that 50% market share migrate to another domestic company, so that those who lose their jobs due to this will have somewhere to go. I would like to add that I have no issues with foriegn beer, I do drink it time to time due to its full flavor... The best beer I have ever had was during my vacation to Amsterdam. That being said, I buy a lot of beer and I would like that money to go to our economy.

It is a shame to lose something of a national institution - but if there's blame to be had, it rests with the shareholders, who accepted the deal. And it was a lucrative deal...

I wouldn't worry about job losses - InBev has bought ownership of the company, but there's no reason to assume that will translate to job losses/overseas re-locations for anyone but the top brass. Take a look at any of the other breweries that these guys have bought - production and corporate offices tend to remain where they are.

I don't think anything will change - except that Bud will now have greater access to international markets (not that they need it - I can buy 3 import beers at the nearest convenience store: Heineken, Bud and Guinness - and I'm waaaay in the boonies).

A few things. InBev is not just European. It comes from a merger of a Belgian company, Interbrew, and a Brazilian company, Ambev. The current CEO is Brazillian.

From what I understand, InBev is not looking to shut down the US bases of operations. They may cut some corners, trim some of the fat. So an exec or two may have to lay off some of their expensive habits.

The main point of this merger is that InBev wants the Budweiser name to move into growing markets of alcohol, in places like Asia and Latin America. Americans have gone wimpy and are drinking girly drinks anymore. Men here can't drink beer, so the market has stalled. Time to go international with the name. I'm sure once InBev has flooded those markets, they'll sell the name back off to the highest bidder.

By the way, Stella Artois or pretty much any InBev beer is at least ten times better than anything Bud put out.