how comes theres never any proof!

reply to post by riggs2099


Alright riggs here's a challenge ...

The Lakenheath/Bentwater incident of 1956 has a lot of good data including numerous corroborating ground radar, ground visuals, air visuals, and air radar confirmations. So much so that if you read the Condon & Blue Book reports it becomes staggeringly hard to come up with any prosaic explanation.

Personally my first reaction was to say it was a foreign aircraft but the ability of the object to stay locked to the rear of the de Havilland "Venom" for more than ten minutes suggested it exceeded the best technology of the Royal Air Force and that's not even factoring in the radar measurements which clocked the object moving at ~4000 MPH.

I also tried to make Hynek's original hypothesis work for me, but the idea this was Perseid meteors would have meant I'd have to ignore radar and visual maneuvers. As Hynek concluded, the hypothesis "must be ruled out." I also tried Phil Klass's explanation. He believed the Lakenheath RATCC radar was malfunctioning because of a faulty MTI unit. However this would imply that the Bentwater and Sculthorpe radars were also malfunctioning which seems a bit far fetched when you factor in the air radar, ground and air visuals.

So the most mundane explanation that I could come up with is that this was a non-Allied aircraft that could maneuver at ~4000 MPH, outperform a RAF Venom, glowed like a bright light (Yehudi lights?), could stop mid-air (NOTE: the first VTOL engine was manufactured in 1957), and when it started moving did so with no slow start or build-up to speeds varying from 400 to 600 MPH.

To say all those things almost sounds more ludicrous than to say it was other-worldly.

So Riggs ... what's your explanation? Is it man-made? If so which country manufactured it? If it was the USA why would the pilot dart around one of his own bases and play cat and mouse with a British RAF Venom? If it was another country how did they achieve vastly superior technology to everyone else in the world? And if such a country did exist and made this amazing technology, wouldn't it by now, some 50 years later, be technologically superior to every other nation on the face of the planet? If only because, ya know, the US still doesn't have planes that go from 0 to 400 in less than a second. Hell not even our scramjets boast that kind of acceleration.

Or are you going to make the argument that it was a weather / meteorological phenomenon? If it was weather how do you explain the object staying in-trail locked dead behind the RAF Venom?

[edit on 25-7-2008 by Xtraeme]

reply to post by Xtraeme


Read the report and it proves that there was something they could not identify out there, niether does it prove the extraterrastrial theory. Only proves that someone had technology no one knew about. I will concede that this does give a better arguement for extraterrestrials...not saying it was just that its one of the possibilities. Need more cases like these and these are why I am interested in the topic.....lol....as i was writing this my friend called me outside and pointed out something. It was a white oval shaped object..not moving fast nor in a straight line kind of erratic. Straight at some times and moving to the east. Hmmm....maybe someone trying to show me something...lol. Daytime also and slighty cloudy and pretty high as I lost sight for a few seconds as it went behind a cloud. I say went behind because the cloud was moving along very slowly.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by riggs2099]

Simple answer? Because most stories aren't true. They're lies made up for any number of reasons and I really believe people over think the 'why lie?' thing. Sometimes you just feel like making up a story on the net with a couple of friends and seeing how far it goes...

"Lol, lets see if these nuts believe something we make up right now...".

That's all it takes.

The other explanation of course is that the stories are real and that they're being censored or covered up or twisted by somebody, etc. This is always a possibility, as is anything really, you have to keep an open mind but be logical.

I think some members of this forum associate the term 'open mind' with 'believes ANYTHING at face value'.

Use your best judgement/instincts, stick with logic and reasoning and you will surely wade through the trash to find the tiny slithers of seemingly plausible events. They're what I'm here for and they're more compelling than anything else on ATS.

My 2c.

I took fantastic pictures of spirits some time ago, I guess they are impossible to top in quality, but I assume you won't accept them anyway. Open your mind to possibilities.