how comes theres never any proof!

Originally posted by azzllin
There is proof already, close up clear pictures, the problem is its never enough, if its clear its fake, if its wobbly its fake, if its night its fake, daytime its a balloon, Pictures get called fake with no proof of it being faked, why is that acceptable?

I agree with azzllin, here on ats is alot of threads that has more then enought evidance to support E.T Life...Here is a couble..

The Betty and Barney ubduction by Super Moderator Gazrok.......
Another one by Gazrok the fantastic documented case at Rendlesham...The most detailed collection of alien photo`s by Isaackoi.
Mike Conspiracy master amazing Ufo photographs by Pilotsand one of my favourite the Cortile abduction.....So yes i think from taking these evidance from these threads there is alot of proof that E.t and ufo`s are real!

I dont think that a person who has a close encounter with a alien sleeps with his camera in his hands in bed,and when approached by a alien say " could you please keep still, i want to take a photo, smile smile ,thats it keep that stans...work it baby..."


[edit on 7/25/2008 by GUNSINWAR]

reply to post by thewhiterabbit23


So the light you saw was definitley alien....how did you know this. Some sign on the side that says we come from another planet or what.

reply to post by GUNSINWAR


Not one photograph that exists should be considered proof as they have never been authenticated, and as for abduction cases there has never been any proof that it is aliens or that they are even real. The mind is capable of so much, it can even cause us injuries and than again there is the possibilty that the governement could be doing these abductions and leaving false memories.

Originally posted by riggs2099
reply to post by GUNSINWAR

 

Not one photograph that exists should be considered proof as they have never been authenticated,

Hi there riggs..does one man deside the a photo is authentic after having a look at it!? I agree that the mind is a powerfull weapon, but one has to look at the evidance of incidents...

The same goes with Murder or any other criminal case...evidence or witness statements...this has the biggest role in court cases!

reply to post by riggs2099


Nope. Never said it was. Not a helicopter and not a plane. Thought it was the moon at first. Just something not right and out of the ordinary. Enough to get me wondering.

Cute about the sign though.

reply to post by survivor


The whole "we use 10% of our brains" thing has no basis in science! Maybe we only understand how 10% of the brain works but we definitely are using more than 10% of our brain!

Antar,

Had alot of thread compilations or links that have this in them, forgot the title of it though.

reply to post by skepticsnake


Ok here's the thing

If there were only only a handful of Alien Encounters it might be
more believable, but with so many there must be a Interstellar
Highway with UFO's going back and forth. Also the number of
claimed abductee's being taken and probed since ?50's? from
everywhere and anywhere there must be enough to fill Ohio
In this case, less Encounters would be more Credible than more
Encounters. With so many Encounters happening over so many
years in so many countries, one would expect someone to have
at least one piece of Physical Evidence and more than a Footprint
left behind. Alas there's is Zippo, Zilch, Nein, None what-so-ever.

And if a Alf landed in my backyard and I decided to show him around
town everyone would think It's somebody in a suit, because people
would expect if it's real it would be in a Government Lab.
So because there are none walking the streets everybody thinks
the Government has them in a Government Lab somewhere.

So we sit by waiting for the Governments Analysis of the Artifact/
Being, the Government say it's not of Alien Origin then everybody
thinks Cover-up.

Originally posted by survivor
most if not all humans use less than 10% of their brains.

This is actually a myth.

Clicky!

Originally posted by Craft Owner
I appreciate the lack of real proof can make people skeptical of such alien's existence, and the growing number of hoaxes contributes to people's skepticism, but you can't rule out the possibility Extra Terrestrial life purely because the evidence is lacking in quality.

Acceptance is growing amongst the general population of Extra Terrestrial life, and with a trusted, respected astronaut recently admitting that we are certainly not alone, one must question how people can remain so doubtful.

I respect opinions may differ greatly on this matter, but I think you should open your mind a little.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by Craft Owner]

see thats a very good point... but I also feel that you can truly believe something 100% unless you experience it.. and if you do believe it that much and HAVEN'T then i'd say you just really want to believe... im about 75% sure.. alot of the evidence ive seen is good enough for me... but until it happens to me and I experience it I cant 100% believe its true.. it would be silly to I think

Originally posted by skepticsnake
Ok so here we have it. Anyone that want to can do a quick google search for alien encounters, ufos and abductions and find all sorts of personal experiences. If you're lucky you'll even find a blurry picture or pixelated wobbley video.

But the thing is, with so many of these so called encounters, why has there never been just ONE single clear close up photo..

I accept the possibility of the whole government coverup theory doing their best to cover up alien existance, but even so that wouldnt stop some sort of media leakage of MAJOR evidence of alien existance surely..

I would also add that since everyone (in the west) now carries a camera all the time (it's called a mobile phone!) the chances of capturing a picture have increased considerably at least 10 possibly 100 fold. Where are all the new pictures? Oh also don't forget that these digital camers are fully automatic exposure and auto white balance and higher ISO rating. So the qualifty of the image should improve considerably also as well as being able to take them in poor light.

NOTHING........

reply to post by skepticsnake


The reason why there is never any physical proof such as a clear photograph attached to these stories is that they are simply NOT TRUE.
Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of sick, strange, twisted and most of all attention seeking individuals in this world.

However, putting their downfalls aside for one second, they seem to be very good at realising that there are also a lot of gullible, naive people in this world aswell.

Connect these two sets of people together via some sort of communications media, preferably the internet as it is anonymous, they can hide their identity and have no fear of exposing their lies as they cannot be physically seen, and voila! You get the sort of stories, hoax's, and posts that you refer too.

People know my views on UFOs & aliens and I'm not saying they do not exist, I think the complete opposite. But, I'm getting sick & tired of reading posts along the lines of "My mum took me to see an alien last night" etc

Rant over

Originally posted by riggs2099
I am a skeptical believer

. I am not like most of the sheep on here...give them a story and it becomes fact.

I think that's a pretty generalising and somewhat rude comment, but I'm sure you meant no offence.

The more logical assumption is that government are using this tech...

At first it seems it is, but if you really think about it then it isn't. The UFO reports were around long before we had aircraft ourselfes. Futhermore, there are very credible cases from decades ago, describing craft that display performance not of this world (with evidence to back it up). Remember some of these cases are 40 years old. So if this was government tech were did they get it? Why aren't they using these craft today and why are they still building and developing conventional aircraft? Why don't they fight wars with their super anti gravity propulsion craft? That's not logical at all I think. I mean it's like fighting the Vietnam war with propellor aircraft while secretly possesing jet propulsion craft which are vastly superior.

Nah in my opinion saying all these UFO's are just secret government craft doesn't make any sense at all.

[edit on 25/7/08 by Fastwalker81]

When a crime is commited without evidence being found its called "a perfect crime", but still a crime whatsoever. If a person is charged with some crime, but aquited he will spend the rest of his life with having to deal wit the disbelievers.

We believe in love (but what evidence of its exsitence do we have. Our feelings? So if one feels that UFO's/Aliens exists, is that enough?

I personally want the Aliens to exist and that they are having good intentions. But I have to admit all the stories are different from each other. This fact is bad to our case of believers.

what we are thinking of as aliens are extra dimensional beings. They have been here for many many years, predating "modern accepted" human history. This goes far beyond Egypt. Disclosure will not happen in the US until it benefits the Illuminati in some way. And before someone starts all the closed minded conditioned response of yelling conspiracy, these so called "conspiracies" are exactly what the definition describes it has. Cover up is more of a proper term.

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I think its self expanatory! Its not the Government thats covering this up, withholding evidence. You have all sort of people talking about our Galactic Neighbors coming to help Humanity get through a terrible time.....Nonsense I don't believe they are benevolent. What proof do I have? Their is a record of their interaction with Humans its called Holy Scriptures! If you read any of them, don't care from what belief system you take them from, you will find that our visitors have never been kind or thoughful when it comes to the Human experience. Their is no differance here, I'm convinced that soon we are going to find out who the real masters of this world are and we aren't going to like it. People have been brainwashed into believing that the story always ends with the good guy winning, I think its time for a dose of reality my friends. Life isn't fair so why would anything else be. I think the fall of Man is upon us. We have been fighting ourselves for so long now why? Have you ever stop to think how great we could have been if we were engaged in building together as a species rather than waring as nations. The Human infrastructure is so weak at this point that if we did have any enemy other worldly it would be a slaughter, This is by design.




[edit on 7/25/2008 by XcLuciFer]

Originally posted by riggs2099
I am a skeptical believer

. I am not like most of the sheep on here...

You just insulted MOST of the members of this website without reason. Was it necessary to bring everyone else down to boost yourself up? Do you feel superior to the rest of us now? Tell me what you know from your single month of membership here that qualifies you to call MOST of us sheep?

On the topic... as you said yourself..OP.. you would probably not believe it if it slapped you in the face. That really is the key here. Evidence does exist but a person can deny evidence if they are not ready for the truth.

You can actually witness a UFO firsthand and still convince yourself that it was nothing coming up with a million different excuses in your mind to support that if you are not ready to accept it. Truth will not come for you until you are ready to receive it. I hope that makes sense.

who needs proof when there is so much evidence...

Originally posted by NephraTari

Originally posted by riggs2099
I am a skeptical believer

. I am not like most of the sheep on here...

You just insulted MOST of the members of this website without reason. Was it necessary to bring everyone else down to boost yourself up? Do you feel superior to the rest of us now? Tell me what you know from your single month of membership here that qualifies you to call MOST of us sheep?

On the topic... as you said yourself..OP.. you would probably not believe it if it slapped you in the face. That really is the key here. Evidence does exist but a person can deny evidence if they are not ready for the truth.

You can actually witness a UFO firsthand and still convince yourself that it was nothing coming up with a million different excuses in your mind to support that if you are not ready to accept it. Truth will not come for you until you are ready to receive it. I hope that makes sense.

He didn't insult me! In my opinion that statement would only insult the one that the comment was intended to address. So if you feel insulted chances are......well nothing more need be said

selected ufo cases
Sightings by Clergymen (Priests, Ministers, etc.)

There is a whole bunch of really good cases by folks that we trust with our most serious problems in life. I guess if your going to trust these folks with all your problems you should at least believe in what they say. In the link below you can see these cases listed. These are probably the most strange cases in UFO history and interesting.

Don't forget e.g. the kids at a school in Africa that had a CEIII and recently were interviewed as adults decades later and swore it was true.

I guess we might be dealing with either a human illness that makes people make up stories of elf's, gnomes, aliens, or put in your creature here____, or there is really a bunch of unearthly (or one-dimensional) visiting going on. .there really can't be any other logical explaination.

Now there have been amazing cases that fooled people for years and are still fooling believers ( but these folks are usually making $$ off said cases) like Billy Meier's contacts and pics...the UMMO contacts pics and stories, the andreasson affair, heavens gate, and a few you can probably name.


LINK to some of the most weird cases : www.ufoevidence.org...