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Originally posted by Quazga
6. As the son of an immigrant he understands the story of America better than those of us who have been here for several generations.
Originally posted by EverythingYouDespise
Is Obama evil, or planning to be some sort of despot? Not from what I can tell. But if elected, he will attempt to introduce dangerously liberal policies that could cripple our economy, lessen America's place in the world and weaken our military in a time of war.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by Quazga
6. As the son of an immigrant he understands the story of America better than those of us who have been here for several generations.
Well, I wouldn't go that far. It's not like he just got off the boat, clad in rags and a couple of worn dollars in his hand, looking to make his fortune.
"4:49 p.m.: Obama enters the luxury Ritz Carlton hotel wearing a T-shirt, black sweatpants and white trainers -- apparantly to work out in the hotel's gym. He kept up the campaigning on the way there, smiling and waving at tourists and other onlookers."
Nice digs, the Ritz Carlton. I wonder how many poor people in America will ever get a chance to stay there.
Just your "Obama for President" contributions at work.
Originally posted by sos37
Why was Obama apologizing to Germany on behalf of America? Doesn't that spit in the face of the soldiers who fought against the Third Reich in the second world war?
Originally posted by sos37
So you're mainly voting for Obama just to spite the anti-Obama crowd on this board.
Originally posted by Quazga
Actually that IS the story I'm talking about. I was raised poor, and now I stay in the Ritz. I love America for that very reason.
But yes, his father was a Goat herder in Kenya! And he lived all over the world, and so I think he does have the immigrant experience.
Originally posted by Quazga
Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by Quazga
Could you tell me why McCain is better than Obama?
Thought so.
[edit on 25-7-2008 by Quazga]
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by Quazga
Actually that IS the story I'm talking about. I was raised poor, and now I stay in the Ritz. I love America for that very reason.
But yes, his father was a Goat herder in Kenya! And he lived all over the world, and so I think he does have the immigrant experience.
Raised poor? His biological dad was going to the University of Hawaii when he met his mom. His DAD might have been "poor" as a kid, but Barack sure wasn't scrambling for scraps like some street kid. He was raised in Hawaii, started College in LA, then transferred to Columbia, then Harvard law.
I have a hunch there wasn't much living paycheck to paycheck for the Obama family at any time in their lives.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by sos37
Why was Obama apologizing to Germany on behalf of America? Doesn't that spit in the face of the soldiers who fought against the Third Reich in the second world war?
Show me where Obama apologized to Berlin and I will answer the question. I'm not going to assume what part of the speech you're interpreting as an apology to Germany on behalf of America.
Originally posted by sos37
"I know my country has not perfected itself."
"At times we've struggled to keep the promise of liberty, the quality for all of our people."
"We've made our share of mistakes. There are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions."
That's an apology. To a German audience, about American conduct. About America.
So you tell me, BH, why isn't Barack Obama over there reminding Germany of all the great things that the United States has DONE for them throughout history and asking for their support?
Why instead is he apologizing for the shortcomings of the U.S. and asking for their unification?
Doesn't the fact that Barack Obama is telling the crowd what they want to hear at the cost of smearing his own country and the brave men and women who died in WWI and WWII tell you that he is a fair weathered poltician who will say whatever it takes to win favor?
That's an apology. To a German audience, about American conduct. About America.
That's TOTALLY your opinion. I don't agree he was apologizing to Germans. He was stating facts about the US.
So you tell me, BH, why isn't Barack Obama over there reminding Germany of all the great things that the United States has DONE for them throughout history and asking for their support?
I don't think he needs to remind them. The appearance of US flags and outbursts of applause when he talked about loving the US is good enough for me. 200,000 people showing up to hear him speak shows me that they are aware of America's place in the world and that they appreciate and love this country.
Why instead is he apologizing for the shortcomings of the U.S. and asking for their unification?
Because it's a good idea to be unified with our allies around the world? Maybe? What's wrong with apologizing when you've been an asshat, anyway?
Doesn't the fact that Barack Obama is telling the crowd what they want to hear at the cost of smearing his own country and the brave men and women who died in WWI and WWII tell you that he is a fair weathered poltician who will say whatever it takes to win favor?
Oh dear! Smearing his own country! Wake up! You're dreaming! But thanks for the laugh. Suffice it to say, you are hearing a whole lot that simply isn't there. I'm hearing what he said, you're making things up. Sorry.
Slavery ring a bell? Bush's trashing of the Constitution? The Patriot Act? Wiretapping? The above sentence is true.
Originally posted by kilad
reply to post by sos37
where is your logic, why would he apologize for the help the US gave after the war?
"There are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions."
Isn`t it rather apologizing for what have occured the recent years? Trying to repair the bridge to the rest the world that Bush demolished? Is that a bad thing? Well i guess you don`t give "a rats ass" about the rest of the world, good thinking.
Originally posted by sos37
How exactly have we inconvenienced Germany might I ask?
Oh I see. You don't see anything good in this country right now, is that it? The United States is pretty much a blood-soaked mess the way it is that doesn't take care of its own people, right?
You think this country is nothing but a huge prison that tells its citizens how to live, how to eat, where to work, what to do, what not to do.
You're not proud to be an American. You wouldn't wave an American flag to save your life, right? Nevermind that there are truckloads of people from foreign countries still desperately seeking citizenship in the U.S., no you were born here which gives you the right to take a dump all over this great nation, correct?
Now I get it. This nation and its people has become one big, huge headache to you.
For the love of God, why my father and my grandfather served in the military to defend the likes of people like you I will never, ever understand. People like you are so ungrateful for the blessings you have. All you care about is YOUR own personal agenda, not the good of the entire nation.
Originally posted by sos37
You're not understanding.
Originally posted by Freenrgy2
I find his 'World Tour' an example of things to come....stay tuned.