Some of the best ghost footage ive ever seen...or is it?

reply to post by gimme_some_truth


Is it just me, or on the second video at 40-42 seconds, there is an apparition that walks into the room.


Anyone else see that?


And it appears that it is the apparition which causes the lights in the room to blink as it passes in front of them.

[edit on 22-7-2008 by Quazga]

Originally posted by garyo1954
reply to post by xul

 

xul, I'm going with your overlay idea here. It makes more sense. Here's a screen cap just before 'smokey' enters the room. You can still see the shadow (outlined in red) on the door frame. Those two little points of light (eyes) are visible.

Here's a screen cap just after 'smokey' enters. Looks like something is blocking those points of light (eyes).

Just an aside - I had to run the brightness on my screen out to 80 to just to see these things. It's usually at 40.

Yes, from page 4. I think we all agreed something obscured the points of lights.

Hmm interesting find, thanks for those.

I am a believer in the paranormal but I'd have to say I think those are probably fake. So many professional hunters seem to spend so much time trying to capture *any* paranormal activity that it seems odd that he could film quite a great deal of activity in 3 sessions. Either his house is so haunted that he really should get the professionals to take a look, or it's totally set up. Good work if it is, he achieves a great creepy factor!

As for the animals, one dog looked scared, the other seemed a bit disinterested. The cat looked like it had just jumped off a piece of furniture and didnt seem particularly scared to me.

The dog that went under the bed seemed afraid of its owner to me!

It's a tough one, but I'd go with fake on the balance of probability.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
So far the general consensus seems to be that people think its real because of how the dogs act.


Personally im starting to lean towards fake.

I`ve just watched the first vid and read done to hear other people opinions to see if they matched my thoughts.

The dogs reactions is imo what makes it clearly fake,the owner says his dogs were disturbed,they look to me as though they are just looking at their owner behind the camera and specifically the Labrador yawned whist looking.My dog will make the same reactions and expressions if I give him silent commands.

Dont they say in show business? "dont work with children or animals"


The closet door could be easily faked as with that roll of whatever that does a couple of flips from the table onto the lounge.

The supposed video interference could be easily faked,as could be a flash of light near the widow.Heck at the very! beginning the camera moves as if someone just turned it on and the dogs looking behind the camera as well,geeez you`d think they would edit that bit out?,but there`s not suppossed to be anyone home.Oh wait it was the ghost

Entertainment value I give it a 5/10,no make it 7/10 cause I like dogs,they get a point each.

Gonna take a look at the others I did enjoy the first.

Our little dachunds used watch thngs all the time. Might I add ths was when i was beng haunted by evil spirits and yes dogs can see them.

Those without physical bodies aren't so blatant in their manipulation of physical objects; they're much more subtle, 99% of the human population will not see them when they're right in front of them.

They have no interest in moving our stuff around, they couldn't care less.

Hi everyone, just my professional input on the animal behavior.

The dogs are not acting scared or fearful in the first two videos. As a matter of fact, they are not acting like there were no humans present.... there was definitely someone/ or a couple of people in the house during the first video.

As for the third video, the white dog, Phoebie I believe he was calling her, was scared of something the owner was holding in his left hand up in the air (perhaps a part of a vacuum as a member has suggested already, could be a bottle of dog shampoo! One of my dogs does exactly the same thing when he sees me with the shampoo bottle because he knows hes going to get a bath
In the first video with Phoebie, you will notice when the dogs are looking in the air and appear to be following something, you will notice she sits down next to the other dog. What has happened here is she has been sitting near the owner, she has turned and looked back at him, made a sign of submission with her ears, and then sat down like a good girl to get the treat her master is waving about in the air.

As for the cat, well, no that cat is not scared at all its just being a normal cat displaying normal cat behavior, I can see absolutely no signs that the cat feels fearful or threatened. It seems quite relaxed to me.

As for the door in the first video, it seems that there is a slight gap between the door staring to move and the thumping noise of whatever is hitting it. I'm not sure if this is significant or not but it stood out for me.
The ‘radio interference’ in the first video sounded like an old VHS player rewinding a video.
You could hear the sound of a lamp being turned on and off in the third video.

Thanks guys, I would love to add more but I don’t have the time right now
Would love to know if anyone agrees or disagrees with me.

reply to post by tdubz


I was thinking the exact same thing.

I, also, agree with the posts that the dogs and cat look chill. I have never seen any of my dogs yawn when they were excited or in a state of fear/anxiety/threat/etc., and I have always grown up around dogs.

Everything is pretty much summed up due to some great sleuthing by the members.

Decently-crafted and initially creepy, but hoaxes nonetheless (in my non-expert opinion).

So far I have only watched the 1st one and I am struggling to see how it could be a fake..

someone please explain how the paper towel thing happened . . . I want to believe this is fake so bad . . . because it has so many tell tales signs of being a hoax. But i can't figure out how he did the paper towel thing.

Please do not say a string. Because it cannot be done with "a" string. It rotates 3 times in mid air . . . and then "adjusts" itself once it gets on the couch.

reply to post by gimme_some_truth


These "poltergeist" videos and tales might be reviewed in the context of Stan Romanek's strange pictures of "ghost"-like aparations/poltergeist activity, which he associates with alien intruders.

Originally posted by JPhish
someone please explain how the paper towel thing happened . . . I want to believe this is fake so bad . . . because it has so many tell tales signs of being a hoax. But i can't figure out how he did the paper towel thing.

Please do not say a string. Because it cannot be done with "a" string. It rotates 3 times in mid air . . .

Fair question.

Take a look at it again,one end is hanging over the table,it doesn`t need string to flip it.But something to pull the over hanging end down swiftly and with a bit of practice get the desired result.

For mine anyway.

That thing was edited, I'm fairly certain. Just watching around the paper towel scene, there are a couple very minute pauses. I do not see this on my video camera when I use it. And typically, way too many convient and too good to be true captures is just that—too good to be true.

Ok well ive had it zoomed huge on a 50 inch screen.Altered the video.Converted to high quality dvd.
And inside the cupboard up the top left along the wood is some thing that moves when the door does.
2:06-2:14 you can see it go backwards as the door swings outward, as it would if it was being pulled.
Some kind of mechanism I can just see it move.If you pause and go back from frame to frame just on the youtube vid you can see when the door swings out, the thing moves back.Its not string its some kind of solid mechanism that causes the door to stop effect, instead of swinging to a stop.
And secondly the dogs, are wagging there tails and looking off camera which would lead me to believe the owner is there off camera telling them to do things.
They are not frightened and when dogs are near things of a scary nature they go completely nuts.
And with the paper towel, just before it moves, its barely noticeable there is a little white flicker you can see behind it to the top of it that is like someone is tensioning the line getting ready to pull it.Then it jumps.
Also remember this video is uploaded by the same person who uploads video's such as, Sweat pants boner, and Drunk peeing in the toilet.

First Vid.......Compressed Air....animals are just being normal. Maybe a lazer pointer to get the one to bobble head, or more air being blowen on the ceiling. Other dog just bored, but def. a human in the room behind the camera the way the dogs reacted at first and then walked behind camera.

Second Vid...Sun comming from other room, and with him just walked in to that room, his reflection is being casted as he moves about. Easily duplicated.

Third Vid.....My dog acts like that when scolded. Other dog seems to careless, just going with the flow...cats feeding time and that is his food storage spot or another cat tucked back into the lil cubby like microwave carts, odd how the side profile is tweeked just enough not to see from the angle he is shooting. Never get to see the full back view of can. The can is empty with no lid or bottom, compressed air again or string....you def. see something wizz through the air from the across room throw. Banging or stomping sounds as if it from the outside of the house based on the after vibration sounds after each thub.....

Originally posted by garyo1954
reply to post by Eisenhorn

 

I noticed that as well. Watch the can this time.
Notice how the reflection changes just before it falls.
Does it looks like someone/something tightened up a pull string on it?

The exact same thing happens to the paper towel in the first video. Open up the video and put it to full screen. Then at 2:38 along the edge of the paper towel you will see what looks like a small white spec appear, then it dissapears for a second, then reappears and stays there until the paper towel moves. To me it looks like someone getting hold of fishing wire and tensing it up ready to pull.

I'm calling fake.

I'm going to have to call these videos completely fake. There's too many factors supporting it!

I mean, isn't it just a bit TOO coincidental how he happens to have the camera facing the exact location of the "phenomenon"?

And look at the way he set the camera down in all three videos. Coincidence? I highly doubt it.

I myself am a film student in chicago and a few things that happened in the videos seemed a little odd to me.

In the video in his living room it shows the footage blur slightly, that effect happens when a magnet is placed next to the lens zoom, if ou want to try it out yourself it will do the exact same thing, but i wouldn't reccomend it as it's very bad for our camera. A similar effect as to what happened to the radio during those "occurrences" if you place a magnet next to the speakers. he must've had a big speaker magnet around the house and liked the effect.

When he was in his attic, after the lights "dim" you can still see the light glare from the lightbulb, the only thing that dimmed was the camera dim effect, you can even faintly hear him fidgeting with the camera, it's rediculously fake, omg.

when he's walking to check the attic out, ou can see the smirk on his face, when he looked at the camera he was giving another person a cue, because shortly thereafter there is almost a perfect stop where the bucket thing next to him fell, its an amateur technique i'm highly familiar with, and you can even see where it stops and picks up.

when the "shadow being" walks into the room, it's just an edited shadow of him walking in there, thats no biggie, easy trick.



i'm sorry if you guys believed this was realy, but it's so rediculousy fake, i applaud the guy for the initiative though, he knows how to use a camera to an extent. i've seen worse fakes made by people with less talent.

my favorite part about all of this is the people making fun of the guy on youtube telling him he should be charged with animal cruelty for leaving his dogs alone with ghosts....the people these days!



peace

those dogs got hit with a Dazer -google it I have one and when you fire it they all act like that..

reply to post by gimme_some_truth


Here's my favorite one...

The scariest ghost footage ever!!!!!!
youtube.com...

Is it real?
You are never able to tell whether something is real or not, but one should always have an open mind in regard of ghost and poltergeist activities. I guess, nobody will ever believe something if one hasn't experienced anything for oneself. I saw that footage quite a while ago as well and it is doubtless pretty amazing.

My personal experience ranges from UFO sighting, alien encounter, encounters with spirits/ghosts, poltergeist activities, astral projection, lucid dreaming, psychokinesis, premonitions, seeing energy, communication with the subconscious mind, intentional ghost photographies and a few other things.

Most of it appears to be nonsense to non-believers, but I am in the position to be able to aver that everything is REAL.

When someone says that it is convenient that things happen, then it truly suggests to person and I guess it suggests to any person that it might be more than just a coincidence. But there are way too many things happening without our understanding that it is so easy to disregard events and incidents.

As a basic rule I would say that everything that is officially denied is real. Sounds stupid? Maybe, but just those things which have been denied and ridiculed in public are most often these things that are REAL.