If the War on Terror is manufactured, what is Gitmo/torture/etc. really for?

I was just reading an article relating to torture of suspected terrorists and something occurred to me. Assuming that things such as 9/11, al Qaeda, terror bombings outside of the USA, and the "war on terror" in general are, for the most part, manufactured by the people holding the strings of the puppets, then what exactly is all of this business with torture and detainment of terror suspects really about?

Furthermore, if all of that stuff is manufactured, and the people detaining "terror suspects" know that, what is really going on in these prisons?

What is the point of torturing them, questioning them, etc., if the people in charge know full well that they will garner no new intel?

Is it all a big facade created to fool the sheeple into thinking that the governments are indeed fighting terror?

And assuming there is some nasty stuff going on, which is pretty safe to do considering the testimony that comes out of places like Gitmo, what are they trying to accomplish by torturing people with no valuable knowledge about terror?

Could it be that there is something else, unrelated to terrorism, that these people have knowledge of?

I'm very interested in the thoughts of others on this. I know it assumes that you buy into the big conspiracy picture, but hopefully that won't hinder a bit of discussion.

In regards to the torture and lack of new information, I read somewhere on here about waterboarding, and several accounts where it gets to the point where they say anything so they stop, so they basically say whatever the torturers want to hear. This could likely be fake info, but justify actions that are taken in regards to "terrorism" and the war.

It probably also a base to brainwash the 'terrorists' to side with the US , the secret ops technicians then send them back to the terrorist cells to gather intelligence.

the interrogator is not part of the conspiracy. The perfect tool is the one who doesn't know he is being used

Torture never works.It never has it never will.People just say things to stop the torture.But the government cant see this.Because contrary to popular belief, they aren't that bright.With all the technology these days, you would almost be able to make someone seriously believe they were somewhere else talking to there friends.Why not try something new like that.

Since the war on terror is NOT manufactured, your entire thread and premise is moot. I cannot comprehend how one can fathom that the war on terror is manufactured.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by WhatTheory]

Originally posted by WhatTheory
Since the war on terror is NOT manufactured, your entire thread and premise is moot. I cannot comprehend how one can fathom that the war on terror is manufactured.

[edit on 21-7-2008 by WhatTheory]

WhatTheory, I respect your opinion. I am not sure what to think, one way or the other. The thing that makes me wonder if it is manufactured, however, is the way the American government has a trend of using a variety of means, secret (black ops) or obvious, for installing, destabilizing, and manipulating governments and political environments. Combined with the approach of "problem-reaction-solution", and you have a mindset that caters to setting up a fake situation like the war on terror. What better way to convince the common men and women that you're protecting them while molding their every day lives to meet your own needs?

On the other hand, to consciously create a global crisis like the war on terror would take a huge number of cooperation from people around the world. People doing such a thing would have such a low moral standard, most notably in the form of their willingness to sacrifice thousands if not millions of people's lives, that it seems difficult to comprehend so many could be involved.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion. I know not everyone feels the war on terror is a facade. But considering just how quickly the overall state of the world has been in decline since 9/11, and the way 9/11 has been used as a means to obliterate the Constitution, it's hard for me to take what I see going on at face value.

the purpose is twofold, at least.
one: instill fear of the government. the government is the terrorist that uses terrorism to sway the hearts and minds of the people. it has even been suggested by mainstream media, 'jokingly', that conspiracy theorists should be sent to gitmo.
two: to create the army of MONSTERS that get off on torturing people, so that people have good reason to fear the government. once you devalue human life, it matters not to the MONSTER whether the victim is white or brown. he/she just needs the get go from the head office that this one needs to be tortured. torture is not about getting to any kind of truth. it is for the exact opposite.