Giant battleship in the sky?

Originally posted by mrwiffler
And why the hell does some knuckle head have to call it a battleship? Even if it were convincing footage of some flying craft why a battleship? Why not luxury liner or sanitation vessel?

If it is called a sanitation vessel it wouldn't be in the running for an award. Call it a battleship and bingo.

What was that award anyway?

Quazga said: "This looks EXACTLY like something I saw about 21 years ago."

You mean that fuzzy bunch of random looking lights?...It looks allot like a bushfire to me.

And you were so convinced that you were brought to tears.

Sorry, that is cruel of me. If you were really crying over that footage I suggest you have had an emotional reaction based on a false assumption. Get a low quality camera and film some distant fires at night and I assure you that your mistake will become obvious.



[edit on 21-7-2008 by mrwiffler]

Roadgravel, I've had a change of heart. It is definitely an alien ship. It is a mobile discoteque/perfumery from Sirius. (Oh and they do a line of hand bags as well)

i cant see the vid her at school youtube is blocked but i did see some screenshots and for some reason the image looks altered its almost like he used a webcam from home but im sure it was a new camcorder and even with an older one the quality isnt always that bad so ya its good to ask questions

reply to post by mrwiffler

I agree with you completely, I really dont see anything definitive here. It seems like all of the video out there is of such crappy quality that once again all we have is an interesting film of some kind of light.
Kind of like the Phoenix, Ar. light phenomenon. As a former military person who used to work on our latest aircraft and peripheral technology, these are almost certainly marking flares used by A-10's for night time close-air-support training exercises. I've seen them do that dozens of times.
Believe me I REALLY want to believe in the existence of E.T.'s and the like ,but in 20 years of research I personally have NEVER seen anything that was what I would call definitive.
As scientist I challenge anyone to SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE.
And the Drake Equation doesnt count.

Wow thats seriously some good footage, i've been up that way to the twin citys a few times, pretty flat as the others are stating, and the day and night photos really show that was was captured on video was indeed in the air... hovering...

Quick rant...

For the past few weeks i've been walking home from work, 10pm - 1030pm lookin up at the sky, in parts of my city here in ontario they're is many parks where street lighting isn't around, giving a better view of the night sky, i've seen many weird anomalys in sky like lights and things zippin by, not thinking anything of it but 4 nights ago I seen a cluster of lights, best I remember being blue white and red, real close together almost in a triangle shape but close together, each flashing sequentually and then bam it was gone... I stopped and looked, it never came back, I thought it was a plane or something in the distance, but it wouldn't just disappear in a flash either, clear sky, moon clearly visible... odd, wasn't really freaked out or anything due to it only looking like a few lights in the sky but I was shocked to see it vanish, made me stop and think to myself if I had just witnessed something other then a plane in the sky...

I wish I could see a better quality of this video but this is what I see from what is presented:

The speaker's friend see that the speaker is eager and wanting to see UFO's. The only validation he really gives as to the authenticity of the footage is that he has known the guy who filmed it for four years...coincidental or convenient that the guy who filmed it is friends with a guy who speaks at ufo conferences. Why didn't the guy speak for himself?

This has set the stage for a good prank on the eager ufo hunter.

This is what I see from the grainy footage, it is an illusion similar to the Haunted Mansion ride at Disney World...I'll explain.

The "friend" is filming towards the streetlamp THROUGH a piece of clear glass. The "ufo" is a reflection of a lightsource that is actually coming from inside the same room as the cameraman. After watching the tape several times and especially the zoom in, zoom out sequence I started to see something familiar.

If you look closely, the misty stuff people are saying is smoke is actually a right hand held parallel to the floor. Count the number of lights and location in relation to the fingers on your hand. Notice how one seems like its dropped back in aboout the same position where a thumb would be? The lights that are being displayed are known as raver rings or light fingers, which ever method they used.

Here's a link since the page won't let me get the pic.

Get five red ones and a gullible friend and you can win an award.

So anyway, I hope to see a better quality version of this but for now, it's the filmed reflection of a lightsource in a dark room to give the illusion of distance trick.

reply to post by alienstar


WHY ARE PEOPLE SAYING BATTLESHIP? HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY SEEN A BATTLESHIP THAT HE/SHE CAN COMPARE IT TO, BESIDES WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON TV WHICH MAY NOT BE TRUE. THAT COULD BE A CARGO SHIP OR TRANSPORTATION OF PEOPLE SHIP OR WHATEVER. IT PROBABLY PICKED SOMEONE UP. THAT COULD BE SOME PERSON'S CAR, SORT OF SPEAK. A FAMILY OR A SCHOOL'S FIELD TRIP OBSERBVING US LOWER SPECIES. LET'S THINK OUT SIDE THE BOX, WE ALL GET ON THIS SITE BECAUSE WE THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM NORMAL EARTH BORN LOWER SPECIES PEOPLE AND WE DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT IS TOLD TO US (THIS IS WHAT I FEEL IS A GIFT OF INTELLIGENCE OR WE ALL WOULD BE IN CHURCH OR SOME SORT OF RELIGION GIVING OUR MONEY AWAY WHILE WE ARE POOR BEING NIEVE TO OUR SURROUNDING). I SAY LOWER SPECIES BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WHAT WE CALL ALIENS ARE BORN ON THIS EARTH AS WELL. IF IT IS A BATTLESHIP, WHO IS IT FIGHTING? WHY WOULD IT COME HERE, IT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT COME ALL THIS WAY AND END UP LOST. WELL, THAT COULD HAPPEN IF IT USED MAPQUEST. IT ISN'T FIGHTING US OR WE WOULD BE DEAD UNLESS THEIR IS ANOTHER SPECIES PROTECTING AND HELPING US OUT. HOW ABOUT THIS, HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHOM ARE IN THESE HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS THAT KNOWS SOMEWHAT OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON (BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THEM GETS ON THESE WEBSITES) HIRE ME SO I CAN HELP OUT AND GIVE A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT OR INTERPRETATION OF THINGS. I AM NOT THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE AND I CAN RULE OUT THAT ALOT OF PEOPLE WHOM KNOWS ABOUT THESE THINGS AREN'T THE SMARTEST PEOPLE ALIVE EITHER. BUT I WAS ONCE TOLD, "IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW BUT WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT."



[edit on 7/22/2008 by Spiderj]

reply to post by astronomine


heres the link to the"hi-def" btw..any youtube video you want to see in hi-def, I dont think its hi-def, but thats what they"youtube"says, anyway, just add this to the end of the link... &fmt=18. great vid by the way, I seen a couple of ufos, but there's one that stands out, looked like an ember, no definite shape,but definite mass, it just appeared from behind the trees about 50 yards away from my home in North Carolina. and seemed to follow the creek. just went out of site around 25-30 mph, been outside everynight since then ,wanting to see it again, seen a few spheres in the daytime, seemed to just want to check me out, they were wild , but nothing like the first.

reply to post by Camilo1


LET ME ADD, THAT GUY WHOM WAS SPEAKING, LOOKS LIKE A LIAR. HE WAS GIVING THE LIAR TELLS. DO THIS, ASK ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL YOU A TRUE STORY THAT HAPPEN. HE/SHE WILL NEED A MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT THE EVENT. AFTER THAT, THEY WILL NOT BE STOPPING AS MUCH, NOR LOOKING UP AND TO THEIR RIGHT JUST AS THE GUY IN THE VIDEO TELLING THE STORY DID. THAT GUY WAS SWEATING TOO MUCH FOR ME AND MIS-SAYING WORDS. ANOTHER THING I HATE ABOUT THESE UFO VIDEOS, IS THAT THE RESOLUTION SUCKS AND THE PERSON ALWAYS BE SO FAR FROM THE UFO. I CAN TELL VIDEOS ARE FAKE JUST BY BEING SO FAR FROM THE UFO AND THEN ZOOMING IN. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT ZOOMING IN, MAKES IT HARDER TO STAY ON THE TARGET AND IT MESSES UP THE RESOLUTION. A REAL PERSON RECORDING A REAL UFO, WILL PHYSICALLY MOVE CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE OBJECT AND THAT PERSON WILL STAY RECORDING UNTIL THE OBJECT LEAVES. AND YOU WILL BE CALLING EVERYONE, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR MOMMY, YOUR NEIGHBORS, EVERYONE.


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[edit on 22-7-2008 by Skyfloating]

I used to have dreams when i was younger of walking outside and seeing the star wars battle ships flying low over my head in the sky, real slow and just hundreds of them, it was a crazy dream, but of course it was from watching Star Wars too many times

Originally posted by sidmar
reply to post by Camilo1

 

LET ME ADD, THAT GUY WHOM WAS SPEAKING, LOOKS LIKE A LIAR. HE WAS GIVING THE LIAR TELLS. DO THIS, ASK ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL YOU A TRUE STORY THAT HAPPEN. HE/SHE WILL NEED A MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT THE EVENT. AFTER THAT, THEY WILL NOT BE STOPPING AS MUCH, NOR LOOKING UP AND TO THEIR RIGHT JUST AS THE GUY IN THE VIDEO TELLING THE STORY DID. THAT GUY WAS SWEATING TOO MUCH FOR ME AND MIS-SAYING WORDS. ANOTHER THING I HATE ABOUT THESE UFO VIDEOS, IS THAT THE RESOLUTION SUCKS AND THE PERSON ALWAYS BE SO FAR FROM THE UFO. I CAN TELL VIDEOS ARE FAKE JUST BY BEING SO FAR FROM THE UFO AND THEN ZOOMING IN. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT ZOOMING IN, MAKES IT HARDER TO STAY ON THE TARGET AND IT MESSES UP THE RESOLUTION. A REAL PERSON RECORDING A REAL UFO, WILL PHYSICALLY MOVE CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE OBJECT AND THAT PERSON WILL STAY RECORDING UNTIL THE OBJECT LEAVES. AND YOU WILL BE CALLING EVERYONE, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR MOMMY, YOUR NEIGHBORS, EVERYONE.

Let me disagree...

First of all you accuse this man of being a liar, if you do then seeing him sweat is not proof enough, maybe the room he was in was hot, just maybe.

Some sweating is not a proof of anything.

Most UFO videos are not that clear, you know why??.

Because they are most times taken with a cell phone, or an amateur camera, it would be very suspicious to find footage taken with a professional camera.

Another thing, you say this man supposedly had to start screaming that he saw a UFO and go wake up everyone in the neighbourhood, once again I think you are wrong.

Most people when they see a UFO freeze up with fear, after all it is an event no one is waiting for, why would someone be prepared to see a UFO, what would be an acceptable reaction to you?.

Cheerio

Camilo

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Great footage Camilo1, strrd and flggd.
I never see that footage before.
It is in my opinion not some kind of chopper and it looks also not some fire on a mountain to me, but because of the darkness it is very difficult to say what it really is.
But thanks.

reply to post by Spoodily


I just re-watched the video and agree it could be the reflection of a hand wearing those rings. The shape of the "object" is very much like a hand if one looks closely at the shape and not the lights. Good catch - I'm going to have to state this video is a hoax.

reply to post by internos


Great work internos, and strrd.
And you are absolute right by saying;

in according to what the witness claimed, what we see cannot be fires in the hills:
unless he was on a very elevated position, but the angulation of the lamp would need to be explained, in this case: of course i can't rule it out, just pointing out the actual scenario of the sighting (IF it is), and i have to add that the perspective is (slightly) different.

Originally posted by Camilo1
As always your analysis is great, I´ve said this before and I´ll say it again, the owners of ATS are very lucky to have you around.

Well said Camilo1, I fully agree.

Originally posted by Lookingup
I've never understood why when these things are supposed to be visible for so long, the person filming doesn't drive/walk closer to it. I can promise you, if I see something like that, or something that goes down on the ground, I'm grabbing my camera, scared as I might be, and heading out there!

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!! and no I'm not sorry for the caps!

reply to post by kidflash2008

Hoax or not the ufo orb type does give off a kind of fire when looked ta close on. These things were not called Foo Fighters, the Foo being like fire in French for no reason. The ufo orb gives off like a fire especially the amber/orange variety.

Originally posted by Spoodily
The "friend" is filming towards the streetlamp THROUGH a piece of clear glass. The "ufo" is a reflection of a lightsource that is actually coming from inside the same room as the cameraman. After watching the tape several times and especially the zoom in, zoom out sequence I started to see something familiar.

If you look closely, the misty stuff people are saying is smoke is actually a right hand held parallel to the floor. Count the number of lights and location in relation to the fingers on your hand. Notice how one seems like its dropped back in aboout the same position where a thumb would be? The lights that are being displayed are known as raver rings or light fingers, which ever method they used.

So anyway, I hope to see a better quality version of this but for now, it's the filmed reflection of a lightsource in a dark room to give the illusion of distance trick.

Great find Spoodily,
Well, I heard many explanations for a UFO so far such as swamp gas, balloons, Venus and on, but this one isn’t bad also.
Suppose it was really a hand with laser lights on every fingertip, then that person may wished that he or she had your hand then [avatar] because in that case he could mounted so many more lights to make look that thing even look much bigger and therefor much more impressive.

That is like what I saw. There were smaller versions of it, there was also that very large craft. What you see in this video is real.

Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Spoodily

 

I just re-watched the video and agree it could be the reflection of a hand wearing those rings. The shape of the "object" is very much like a hand if one looks closely at the shape and not the lights. Good catch - I'm going to have to state this video is a hoax.

Good job there at amateur debunking I see so much of. Of course, this film hasn't been studied by experts, "Research coming from this area is got to be some of the best scientific, actual scientific, research" Real research as opposed to the psuedo-science debunking by the like of Bill Nye. Arizona Research group is just a bunch of retards, as all researchers are. Whoever nominated this for the ufo footage of the year, which it won, was also so foolish as well.

Maybe its because I'm an artist and used to recognizing shapes, like water ripples against rocks on mars, that biologists and others consider real anomalies, suggesting current water, rather than some kind of imprint of where water once was, like Nasa's official statements. The ripples are impossible if not current standing water, and my eyes immediately detect things like that, including the disc shaped outline in this footage, though large enough to be called a battleship, it definately looks recognizable. I agreed it didn't seem aero-dynamic.