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posted on Jan, 10 2003 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Bout Time

1) Here's your homework assignment, my Mayo & French Fries loving friend:

2) Show us poor unrealistic Americans how we are better off in any of these categories...

Economy
Jobs
Investments & Stock Market
GDP
Education
Poverty
Disparity Gap between Rich and Poor
The Number of People With Health Insurance
Water & Air Quality
Amounts of Freedom
Amount of deficit
Overall perception as a global partner & citizen

3)
There are a large number of Right Wingers on these boards, and I understand you are playing to them, But does the stand-up Comic really value the laughs he gets when he performs in the Mental Ward?




1) First of all, I don't like mayo ! I like ketchup !!!


2) Americans are not unrealistics. It's the europeans who are unrealistics.

- USA economy is far better good than EU economy.

- See your job rates and unemployments rates, and check ours. You'll see....

- Investments and stocks markets are better in the US. When someone want to investn he think first to the US, not to the EU.

- GDP ? What GDP ? We have a weak GDP in comparison with you !


- Education :

Ok, it's true. I think that we have a better system. But don't worry, it's changing, and not in the right way !

- Poverty ? Are u kidding ? We have many poors peoples in the EU. And now, with all their leftists taxation system, peoples are going more poor each day !

- Disparity Gap between Rich and Poor :

Don't dream, we are not better than the USA.

- The Number of People With Health Insurance :

We have a governmental health care system, right. But it's an abomination !!! In belgium, we are spending, each year, more than 25 billions Euros. For a 10 million nations, it's completely crazy and absurd !!!! We have lacks of funding in almost everything ( Justice, Defense, education... ), but we are spending money in social welfare. The last stupid thing that our Social Wellfare minister want to do,it's giving computers and internet to peoples who don't have the money to have them !!!

And me, who are working and paying heavy taxes, I have to take a private healthcare insurances if I want to be correctly protected. But those who are not working, not paying taxes, have all what they want !!! Even a computer with internet !!!


"What ? I beg your pardon ? I have to work and pay heavy taxes for that ????? "


- Water & Air Quality. We are polluted, what do you think ? That we are living in a beautifull and green nation ???

- Amount of deficit. Well, we have a deficit too. 250 BILLION euros !!!!!!!!!!!!!! For a 10 millions nation, it's not so bad.
But hey, we have a good social healthcare system, and many stupids taxpayers like me, so, it doesn't count, right ?


-Overall perception as a global partner & citizen : Sure, we are " all " global citizen. Especialy when we, westerners, have to give our money for the "others". And these " others " are allways spitting , lying,shouting on us. But hey, we have to be " progressives peoples ". We have " to understand " them !


3) I'm right winger ! And very proud to be one ! And I'm not " playing " with anybody. I write what I think ! Also, I think that's the leftist who have to be put in an insane mental ward. Because they are dreaming about what will they do with the money of the peoples who are working and paying taxes ! Leftism and socialism is a plague ! Vampyres who are not sucking blood, but who are sucking money for their own benefits. A bunch of lazys who are elected by another bunch of lazys !

[Edited on 10-1-2003 by ultra_phoenix]



posted on Jan, 10 2003 @ 01:30 PM
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Lots of print, but you didn't answer my question, which I'll repeat in a different way so it gets through: In order for you to talk endless crap about what such a bad president Clinton was, please show me where Bush improved America in any of those categories listed?

Here's a start:

POVERTY

The US has not had a rise in poverty since the last time a Bush was in office....it's on the rise now with 33 Million Americans living in poverty. Think of everyone in Belgium being poor...then multiply by 3!!!!!!!!
-Real wages in the US are now 12% less than they were in 1973.
-Half the working population has no pension provision, and Social Security could be picked dry by the time I'm old!

Source: US Dept. of Labor

INEQUALITY
Divisions of wealth and power have reached unprecedented levels in America. While wages and welfare have stagnated or declined, the super-rich have got immeasurably richer.
The ���gini co-efficient��� contrasts the income of the richest 10% of the population with the poorest 10%. Zero represents perfect equality and 100 perfect inequality. In the late 1990s the US was the 71st most unequal out of 112 countries ��� the same as Turkmenistan.

Selected country Gini index score rank


Slovakia
18.2
1 (most equal)



Japan
24.9
5th



Canada
31.5
23rd



Australia
35.2
41st



Ireland
35.9
47th



Britain
36.1
48th



India
37.8
55th



China
40.3
66th



US
40.8
71st



Aotearoa/NZ
43.9
79th



South Africa
59.3
107th



Sierra Leone
62.9
112 (least equal)


Source: www.newint.org...
This number has increased even more over the last two years.


Congrats on the French Fry thing!


Now back up your arguments that Bush is better than Clinton!
And remember, anyone attempting to make the argument " we were going into a recession" garbage, no we weren't, we were at a plateau that was talked into a recession by Bush. Just remember the rampant unemployment, huge defecit, and bloated spending contracts that Clinton inherited from the Reagan/Bush era.



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