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Originally posted by '___'eed
Hey, i like you signature....
But you discuss this case, it would make sense that masons, reptillians, and the government would be "satanic" because they are smarter than the general public. So they would be "knowlege" seekers.
Maybe a few bad apples is spoiling a bunch. All in all, the worst makes the news.
Originally posted by undo
it's a generalization based on a broad definition of
luciferianism. for example, if god says no, and you do it anyway,
you are in rebellion against the will of god for your life. it
can have many ramifications and isn't isolated to behavioral
issues or reigning in of your personal tendencies.
here's an oldy moldy example:
gilgamesh, king of uruk, 2/3rds god, a biblical nephilim,
(a hybrid) decides he wants to build his city from the cedars
of the nearby cedar wood forest. enlil (who some feel is the
equivalent of the biblical jehovah) says no, because he says,
the trees will never grow back (apparently they were very old,
mature cedars, past the point of reseeding). gilgamesh does it
anyway and the trees never grow back, so that cedar wood forest
is gone forever.
why do we have to frame everything evil from a christian point of view?
Originally posted by undo
i can frame it from a sumerian viewpoint if you wish but it'll come out sounding pretty much the same.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by SpeakerofTruth
i think the issue is obvious: it's a generalization. whenever you are outside the will of god for your life, you are in the will of his enemy. there doesn't appear to be much gray area in this regard. it doesn't mean a person outside god's will for their life at any given point is a satanist. it just means, generally-speaking, that individual is behaving satanically. if that makes sense.
what is god's will for your life, is the question. some view the concept of constantly worrying if you are in god's will for your life, the opposite of having free will. if luciferanism encourages free will and god does not, then the two are in enmity with each other. i think it works more like this:
you have free will. you choose to surrender it to god. this inevitably leads to your freedom.
you have free will. you choose to retain that free will in everything you do. this envitably leads to your enslavement.
something about cause n' effect.
[edit on 17-7-2008 by undo]
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, evil is evil, but not everything that deviates from what the "church" says is evil... You see, that's the rub.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, evil is evil, but not everything that deviates from what the "church" says is evil... You see, that's the rub.
[edit on 17-7-2008 by SpeakerofTruth]
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, evil is evil, but not everything that deviates from what the "church" says is evil... You see, that's the rub.
we over tick the plumbing, over think things. that's the nature of the analytical mind. it happens everywhere, in every type of thought process you care to name, and usually in favor of whatever paradigm we are currently nursing.
[edit on 17-7-2008 by undo]
Originally posted by re22666
see, as much as i appreciate your effort, i cannot help but feel like i asked for a scientific explanation of erosion and you are in looking in the bible for it.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by re22666
see, as much as i appreciate your effort, i cannot help but feel like i asked for a scientific explanation of erosion and you are in looking in the bible for it.
i see, i thought you wanted an explanation for why christians think everything is satanic. lol