China's All-Seeing Eye

China's all-seeing eye? How is it all seeing when it's all squinty, oooohhhhhh!

You could blindfold these people with dental floss, agushhhhhh!

Originally posted by King Seesar
China is not part of the NWO there's no Chinese bloodline with the 13 also if anything there keeping money away from the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers, so if you ask me that's a good thing.

Don't take too much comfort in that. The 13 bloodline thing seems a little too neat and tidy. I'm more inclined to think that the people who have risen to the tippy top have gone insane with power.
I'm figuring that it's only a matter of time before this comes over here, in the name of safety, of course. I just can't not believe Aaron Russo. If you have cancer why would you make up such a story?
He had money and fame, so wouldn't he have wanted to remain calm and stress free to improve his chances against the "big casino."

Google Video Link

I still gotta disagree i don't think China is NWO, if you do most of the tracing of the bloodlines you don't see a Chinese dude, China dosen't need Rockerfellers or Rothchilds money just look at how well they export they make millions and millions more then Rockerfeller and Rothchild, and i don't see them letting any American near there banks.

Originally posted by King Seesar
... if you do most of the tracing of the bloodlines you don't see a Chinese dude,

Maybe you've missed my post on the previous page, but I don't just see where you're coming from...

Fritz Springmeier, yet another fundie nut-job, seems to be the main source for claims that there are "Illuminati Bloodlines". Strangely, he mentions 17 families in his 13 Illuminati Satanic Bloodlines. You'll notice, as I've pointed out before that he names the Li Bloodline. (The Li/Lee surname is Chinese)

You mention that you have traced the bloodlines and determine that there are no Chinese. How did you come to that conclusion? How were you able to "trace" these bloodlines?

Originally posted by Wotan

Originally posted by truthtalker

Originally posted by Wotan
It could be ironic to think that if the NWO does exist that China could be the anti-NWO and the possible saviour of the World.

Nope, sorry. They are working together. Please see my posts above.

I actually wrote that before you posted and it was a tongue in cheek comment as I dont believe in such nonsense as a NWO or Illuminati or Reptillian take-over or that they even exist.

Reptillian who? (tongue in cheek)

Just a little food for thought. Has there ever been a time in history when there wasn't someone trying to take over the world? Being British you must remember the great British Empire, Roman Empire, Atilla the Hun, Adolph Hitler, etc. etc. etc.

Today nothing has changed but the methods. Technology and total control over a nations money and media are the methods now. Two quotes to think about.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
Quote by: James Paul Warburg (1896-1969) son of Paul Moritz Warburg, nephew of Felix Warburg and of Jacob Schiff, both of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. which poured millions into the Russian Revolution through James' brother Max, banker to the German government, Chairman of the CFR Source: while speaking before the United States Senate, February 17, 1950

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
Quote by: Mayer Amschel Rothschild [Mayer Amschel Bauer] (1744 -1812), Godfather of the Rothschild Banking Cartel of Europe.

There are 185 member countries in the World Bank. Centralization of monetary power for, as it says, the world.

I only ask that you research for yourself. The phrase "new world order" has been openly used by presidents of the U.S. and by Tony Blair. They do not hide the FACT that they are working toward that end. They are the front men for international bankers that control the money through central banks in every major country in the world. And yes, China is coming into the fold now.

Research Wotan! Research!
Best Regards.

Originally posted by King Seesar
I still gotta disagree i don't think China is NWO, if you do most of the tracing of the bloodlines you don't see a Chinese dude, China dosen't need Rockerfellers or Rothchilds money just look at how well they export they make millions and millions more then Rockerfeller and Rothchild, and i don't see them letting any American near there banks.

I'm sorry King Seesar. Did you miss my post on pg 1 of the thread posted 18-7 at 4:17 am?

"i don't see them letting any American near there banks."

They are all over them, British as well. As a matter of fact, if you read the entire article of the first link it shows why China needed to open up its banks to foreign "investors" to avoid collapse.

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Great Video, hadn't seen it before. Like you said, how can you not believe it? Thanks.

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Saying the words ''New World Order'' is no proof and you know it. If that is the case then there are many other politicians that could be construed as guilty including Bush Senior and Gorbachov, still no proof.

I agree there have been many times throughout the worlds history that there have been megalomaniacs that have wanted to 'rule the world', but again there is no proof of a NWO/300/Illuminati/Reptilian or the 13 bloodlines (that IS total bull#) takeover or that they exist.

As for Tony Blair, the man is nothing now, he has no power, he is a bloody joke in the UK, pretty much despised like your current President is.

Tell me, IF there was/is a NWO, then why the hell didnt they takeover the world at the end of WW2? They had the means and the opportunity .... in fact, there was never a better chance in the whole of the worlds history than in 1945.

Like I said, its a total crock.

THERE IS NO PROOF, THEREFORE THEY DO NOT EXIST.

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Originally posted by Wotan
THERE IS NO PROOF, THEREFORE THEY DO NOT EXIST.

That is a stupid comment. So I guess we can rule out life elsewhere in our universe, since there's no proof? It is well accepted that in the depths of the ocean there are marine species that are undiscovered, but I guess not, because there's no proof?
Lack of proof could also mean something is yet to be discovered. It disturbs me greatly that some are not intelligent enough to understand this basic, simple fact.

Originally posted by King Seesar
China is not part of the NWO there's no Chinese bloodline with the 13 also if anything there keeping money away from the Rothchilds and Rockerfellers, so if you ask me that's a good thing.

Yes...there is an Asian Illuminati and yes they are pinching Rockefellar and Rothschild pretty hard. Reason for all the earthquake attacks on their countries. Euro Illuminati are all butthurt. Now I know most of you dont believe this but then again I no longer care.

ConspiracyNut23 could you provide a link to that info with the Li bloodline?



As far as the banking system gos if there were any dealings with Rockerfeller and Rothchild China has more then paid them off so China owes them nothing, just look how good China is doing.


The New World Order if it happens will be sold as freedom at first, so like i said i think China might be the one that screws everything up for them, just my two cents.

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by truthtalker

 

Saying the words ''New World Order'' is no proof and you know it. If that is the case then there are many other politicians that could be construed as guilty including Bush Senior and Gorbachov, still no proof.

I agree there have been many times throughout the worlds history that there have been megalomaniacs that have wanted to 'rule the world', but again there is no proof of a NWO/300/Illuminati/Reptilian or the 13 bloodlines (that IS total bull#) takeover or that they exist.

As for Tony Blair, the man is nothing now, he has no power, he is a bloody joke in the UK, pretty much despised like your current President is.

Tell me, IF there was/is a NWO, then why the hell didnt they takeover the world at the end of WW2? They had the means and the opportunity .... in fact, there was never a better chance in the whole of the worlds history than in 1945.

Like I said, its a total crock.

THERE IS NO PROOF, THEREFORE THEY DO NOT EXIST.

[edit on 19/7/08 by Wotan]

Like I said before (reptillians who?) If their are any 13 blood lines involved it doesn't matter a hoot to me. The 300, who's that? In my opinion Illuminati is a convenient term in describing the powerful group of international bankers behind the new world order. And please, enlighten me. If there is no NWO what do world leaders mean when they use the phrase?

My concern is the threat to Americas freedom and the virtual enslavement of the nation to the international community perpetuated and supported by groups like the CFR, Trilateral Commision, Bidabergers, etc. financed by international bankers who create money with a few strokes of a keyboard, lend it to all the nations of the world through their central banks, and by this put a strangle hold on these nations through debt payments. (ie: taxes).

They can create 100 trillion dollars. pounds, euros, or any of the many currencies around the world in a heart beat and have eventually over time corrupted governments to their own ends. These ends being a world government with no national bounderies with them in control through their world government structure.

World peace through enforcement by a world army, which NATO and G8 are the first stepping stones to. Redistribution of populations, industries and agriculture for the betterment of all.

I have studied these people and understand that they sincerely believe they are doing what is best for the world. But, I have come to learn, that that is their way to justify the hidden super ego and hunger for power that only the power to create unlimited money feeds. They are meglomaniacs. You mentioned WWII. Coincidence that NATO was formed as a result of WWII? Yes I suppose you think so.

"Saying the words ''New World Order'' is no proof and you know it." I have done much more than said the words, and have been studying it (and other topics if your looking for a new debate) for 25 years. I do KNOW it exists. And now I have the confirmation of world leaders to back me up.

You, on the other hand, make generalizations, use foul language and ask a question you know I don't have the answer to.

" IF there was/is a NWO, then why the hell didnt they takeover the world at the end of WW2? They had the means and the opportunity .... in fact, there was never a better chance in the whole of the worlds history than in 1945."

Sorry, they didn't fill me in on that one.

And you know, if they "had the means and the opportunity" you must be an expert on ways to take over the world to recognize that "fact". I must be a dummy not to have caught that one. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll look into it.

Best Regards

"The truth is there for those who earnestly seek it"

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There is nothing in this world that can prove to me that that there is a NWO. There is not one scrap of evidence that would stand in a court of law that proves a NWO.

It is all imagination, supposition or downright lies/fabrications.

You have not said anything that has convined me or changed my mind.

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There is nothing in this world that can prove to me that that there is a NWO.

Could you tell us what you think the NWO is? To deny that the concept even exist is non-sense. As pointed out already the term was used by both Bushes. Please check out Cuddy's A Chronological History of the New world Order. The NWO, as an idea, a concept, is real. It seems to be a popular phrase with politicians and policy makers. (and of course, conspiracy theorists )

As far as a small group of individuals controlling the world, I can't see how this would be so difficult to believe. Would you agree that there is an elite class? Or do you consider this a myth as well? Is it really so difficult to believe that various factions of this elite class routinely meet and discuss their goals? Didn't they meet at Jekyll Island in 1910 to plan the US Federal Reserve? Didn't members of the oil cartel meet at Achnacarry in 1928 to set international oil prices? Didn't the Bilderberg Group discuss a European common currency at their 1954 meeting?

Look around you! There are monopolies and oligopolies everywhere. Is it really that difficult to believe that a very small and elite minority are running the show?

Organizations that we are taught to admire in school are intentionaly and systemically stealing the world's resources.

reply to post by King Seesar


Springmeier's version is summarized here. Or you can see for yourself on GoogleVideo.

You can also read about Li Ka-Shing on wiki.

Do you have a link for the bloodlines you have studied? I'd be very interested to hear about that.


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The way the NWO is portrayed on this website, No I dont think it exists.

Yes, there are some people in positions of power/influence that may or may not try to shape things to their own agenda. But a global conspiracy, No, I dont beleive that for one minute.

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When there are small groups with enormous power, then their decisions can easily have global consequences. - hence global conspiracies.

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I was looking at the same bloonline stuff you were reading just didn't get to that part yet, i'v seen some strange things tho like a paper talking about audio slaves and how key phrases like The Wizard Of Oz, Darth Vadar and the word Doc was used for this mind control thing, a few weeks later the paper disappeared.


I see what your saying about Li i read the document but he's one man, i just don't see China going along with a New World Order i just don't, in the long run it dosen't make sence to me., but the part of the Triads had me fascinated.


Anyway here's some research i'v been doing.


www.apfn.org...








[edit on 20-7-2008 by King Seesar]

Originally posted by Wotan
reply to post by ConspiracyNut23

 

The way the NWO is portrayed on this website, No I dont think it exists.

Yes, there are some people in positions of power/influence that may or may not try to shape things to their own agenda. But a global conspiracy, No, I dont beleive that for one minute.

Keep in mind that in every "conspiracy" theory a lot of people post things they believe to be the truth as truth, but that's the problem. What they think is the truth becomes the truth in their minds.

It is of paramount importance that each "supposed fact" is diligently researched by ones self. In my posts and threads I have left plenty of links which contain facts to lead any one who chooses to look, in one right direction. Other links left by other posters lead in other directions. The proof of a new world order can be found. My point is that I agree with you that some of the ways the NWO is portrayed on ATS is wrong and much is unprovable.

But there is much more that is provable. That is why one must seperate false information from truth and it can only be done by you. I don't want you to take my word for it. I want you to take the time to research it your self. Only you can convince yourself and that's how it should be. You are your own person.

You said:
"Yes, there are some people in positions of power/influence..." Do you Know this to be true? Or do you think it's true? Can you name names? If the answer to those three questions is yes-no-yes then you have...

1. your first "factual truth".

Then you said:
"...that may or may not try to shape things to their own agenda." By the nature of the statement, you don't know one way or the other. Now you have a question to be answered.

2.Might they or mightn't they?

Then you said:
3."But a global conspiracy, No, I dont beleive that for one minute." Since you said "I don't believe" instead of "I know there isn't", you have never taken the time to answer question #2 based on the fact #1.

When one seeks the truth about anything they must be open minded as well as skeptical. But never let one control or destroy the other. They are the two most important tools for an inquisitive mind. You'd be surprised at what you might learn to be truth about any topic. If the need to know is there to begin with.

Wotan, have a good life. Best Regards.

Don't be turned to the side by false information. You'll find some information is circumstantial but if it's worth your time there is more than enough circumstances and facts to answer the question.....Is there a global plan to create a one world government?

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Very interesting links. The search for truth is never ending but must be done.

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Just wondering, did you check any of the bank links I posted? Heard no comments from you on those.

China has it's banks set up where they need no money from anyone, lets face it they perfected communism, most communist countries are poor in the import section just look at North Korea and others, China is communism with capitalism, i don't think they wanna change that and the New World Order would only get in the way.