The Space Shuttle Challenger blew up WHEN???

Originally posted by woogleuk

Date No of people

1981- 7
1982 1
1983 27
1984 9
1985 5
1986 63
1987 0
1988 4
1989 18
1990+ 2


So it would appear the majority of people go for the correct date of 1986.

Interesting how the second and third highest number of people answering were going for '83 and '89......

fascinating thread...

reply to post by celticniall


You would think you would end up with the typical statistical "bell" curve (star for your efforts btw). This distribution is much different however. Possible explaination... people are just mixed up as to what exactly they saw...
1. April 4th, 1983 was the first Challenger flight and the first time a woman was put into space.
2. Jan 28, 1986 was the actual Challenger disaster.
3. September 29, 1988 was the first post-Challenger shuttle (Discovery) flight.
4. May 4, 1989 was the first mission to launch a space probe (Magellan).

So a few significant (?) events took place within those six years in which people might have seen or heard something and 20 some years later, their memories of the actual event have simply been replaced with the most significant event, the Challenger disaster... if that makes sense.

en.wikipedia.org...


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I just wanted to thank everyone for offering their thoughts here. I had expected that a few might have memories other than 1986 but had no idea there would be so many.

I see opinions ranging from mundane to mind blowing. Some of the ideas presented are fascinating and I'm sure I'll be pondering them for squite some time to come.

to all of you, thanks so much for sharing your opinions here.

reply to post by mecheng


Just to add to your post, since a few people seem to think it happened in 1983,
The shuttle Columbia disaster happened on February 1, 2003.

Theory: Maybe people remember a shuttle disaster happening in a year ending in a 3. Composite that information onto being asked for information about a shuttle disaster happening in the 80's.
Your brain tells you "hey, that must have happened in 1983, because I remember a shuttle disaster in a year ending in 3! Yay, I get pie now!"


Just one theory.

It's an idea, but those of us who remember 83 or 89 have definitive "personal" proof that our recollections "have" to be correct. It's very simple for me. My father died in 1987, the three years before, I went to a small school in Louisiana called Hessmer middle. When challenger blew up, I was going to Cottonport Elementary. I was 14 when my father died, I was 10 when Challenger exploded. This just isn't apparently my where/when. Not that I'm going to let it cause me to lose sleep.....

Originally posted by Element-115
reply to post by Neon Haze

 

Ahh heavy reading I hope...

thanks.

The link to the PDF isn't working anymore.. .

[edit on 16-7-2008 by Element-115]

Ahhh no problem.

I wrote that thread a while ago now..

Here is the link to the pdf

Quantum Gravity and the Standard Model

Hope that helps,

Power to the People!!

NeoN HaZe

Originally posted by Zenagain
It's an idea, but those of us who remember 83 or 89 have definitive "personal" proof that our recollections "have" to be correct. It's very simple for me. My father died in 1987, the three years before, I went to a small school in Louisiana called Hessmer middle. When challenger blew up, I was going to Cottonport Elementary. I was 14 when my father died, I was 10 when Challenger exploded. This just isn't apparently my where/when. Not that I'm going to let it cause me to lose sleep.....

With due respect, I'd offer that your personal recollections are subject to being misleading. Not that you're wrong, I simply offer the straightest point between the two. While its usually the truth and we have a cute nickname for it, 'Joachims Razor" it also allows for the small factor that sometimes it's wrong.
But to be fair, you're offering situations, and memories in place for dates, months and year, Not that I exclude any of what you say.

To me it just seems like it might be a case of old age hitting generation X.

In my mind January 28th 1986 makes sense

reply to post by SystemiK


I had a similar experience with the death of andy gibb, I was sure he died in the early 80´s and then I read he died in 1988. either it is a false memory or we migrated to an alternantive universe as in super string theory. similar but not quite.

This is a very weird one for me. I remember EVERYTHING. I know who was sitting next to me in class, my teacher, the TV they rolled in so we could all see the first teacher go into space. I am without a doubt 100 percent sure that for me the Challenger exploded in 1983. I even keep in touch with my best friend who at the time sat to my right. The teacher we had only taught 1 grade for 30 plus years. So what the hell is going on????????? Let me say this with 100 percent honesty..I was in boarding school in 86...Did not happen in 86. NO WAY NO HOW.

[edit on 17-7-2008 by TXMACHINEGUNDLR]

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR... the TV they rolled in so we could all see the first teacher go into space. I am without a doubt 100 percent sure that for me the Challenger exploded in 1983. [edit on 17-7-2008 by TXMACHINEGUNDLR]

I think you a proving what a few of us have postulated... that 20 years later, you're mixing events... the coverage of the historic lift off of the first woman in space (April, 1983) and the explosion of the Challenger (Jan, 1986).

Originally posted by SystemiK
I was reading about the ISS on wikipedia earlier and eventually ended up on the page which covers the space shuttle challenger disaster. The wiki page states that this happened in 1986.

I'll never forget watching news footage of the explosion on a TV that one of the teachers had rolled out into the hallway outside of his classroom. The thing is, I graduated from high school in 1983 so this could not be possible.

I certainly don't rule out the possibility of false memory syndrome, but the damn memories are just so real to me that it's hard to imagine that they could be false. I've been going over and over it in my head for the last few hours trying to come up with a reasonable explanation but in the end all I've managed is a headache.

I dunno, maybe I dreamed this after the fact and it somehow got filed away as an actual memory. All I know for sure is that if the Challenger blew up in 1986 then there is no way in hell that I was still in high school at the time. It's just so disorienting when your mind remembers one thing but the facts contradict it.

Anyhow, I'm sitting here, wondering if my head needs to be examined.

At the risk of sounding like I'm off my rocker, has anyone else noticed any discrepancies in their recollection of the Challenger disaster?

January 28th, 1986 is correct.

reply to post by SystemiK
I, for one, know it was 1986 because I was in the Navy and remember it vividly. Nothing personal here, but lately there seems to be all these people remembering dates wrong and blaming some weird time disturbance on it or whatever. Your human, your going to screw stuff up! Especially your memory as you get older. I have an occurance from when I was 10 years old that to this day I am not sure whether it was a dream or reality. My mind makes me think it was real, but it just couldn't have happened.

All these people who are stating that time has changed or that we are all tired because of something.... I feel these people just want something to blame instead of taking the responsibility for their own actions or screw ups. So you got the date wrong. Big deal. It happens. I know it feels weird because you were so sure it was 1983... but it wasn't.

Come on people... lets not make more out of this than it deserves.

reply to post by mecheng


Yes, i think you are right, my memory got fried in the nineties it seems

Definitely 1986. I was in the fourth grade (remember that grade and teacher very vividly as I was often in trouble in that class) we watched it happen in class. It was strange from then on out that day things seemed to go in slow motion and everyone was very solemn for several days to follow. It was all any of us kids knew to talk about because there was a teacher on board and it was after all the space shuttle.

Not to offend anyone on here but I have to wonder how many of those remembering different years are on or have been on some form of medication such as antidepressants, ADD/ADHD, or some other form of medication or drug (even some illegal) that could have altered their memories to some extent. I am prone to thinking our nation is over drugged and this could be the results. It does seem that more drugs started being prescribed during the mid to late 80’s. This is just my thought on it not meant to offend anyone.

Raist

Originally posted by Neon Haze
The universe as you know it is one potential out of literally an infinite number of other potential realities.

The so called flow of time is not what most think and relate to. The concept of time as we have come to know it is an illusion.

Let me quantify...

If there are an infinite number of potential outcomes then each potential exist at the same point.

So there is for example a reality where the challenger accident occurred in 1983 and others where it occurred in 1986.

Movement from one potential to another is what we have become accustomed to think of as time.

But what happens when we die?? The potential for our existence reaches zero within this Reality but what about all the other potential realities??

What I am getting at is that when you cease to be in one reality you don't know it but your consciousness just goes on in a different reality...
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Wow....what this reminds me of is the movie The One with Jet Li. Instead of getting their 'lifeforce and power,' you basically replace it with memories. I believe this could be true, but it seems like if it really is, there is no possible way to explain it....like why it happens and so on.

reply to post by woogleuk

I read this thread as I too have had feelings of "change", one of them being that the Queen mum is dead, there is a part of me which says she should be alive.

I am not british...so I can only infer you are referring to the Queen Elizabeth II. She is not dead. Even if you are referring to the the Queen's mother...she is not dead either.

Sorry, I was away from the thread for a few days, but I am part of the '86 crowd. As I stated, there was a niece of the teacher Christa McAuliffe in my class...and she was so shaken she was allowed to go home. I remember there was this big to-do that this teacher was onboard, and I also remember the reaction as the incident unfurled...

reply to post by daddymax


No she's definatley dead, I had a hard time remembering her departing this fair world, but sure enough on 31st march 2002, at the not to bad age of 101 she passed away. Heres the BBC run down from the time..... news.bbc.co.uk...

Anybody else think there is something odd here?

i know it was a few years before my son was born, so 1986 sounds right to me too....

Oh yeah, memory is such an unreliable thing. Just see all the threads on the subject. Why none of us can trust a single thing that we think we remember. No worries though, the gov and the MSM will tell you just how everything happened; or perhaps one of their agents.

reply to post by SystemiK


Bill from PA, USA

Im 40 years old. I was born 1/19/68. The challenger blew up on 1/19/86. My birthday. I was home that day and watched on tv. I remember it vividly as if it happened yesterday. It was 1986. I was a senior in high school. We had off because of martin luther king jr. day.