Madaline Macans Parent's Did IT!

i have a gut feeling on this and im 100% sure that they did it or organised it or had involement in it.
does anyone have any theories or evidence that they did or did not do it???

anyone????

Im sure if there was evidence that they did it - they would be arrested for it. Personally, i find it hard to believe that a regular mother could have been involved in killing her daughter and carry on. That kind of remorse and guilt would kill a mother.

The only way i would think it was a cover up by the parents is if one of their other children accidentally killed her and the McCanns didn't want to ruin that child's life.

No I don't think they had anything to do with it beyond the fact that they made a horrible mistake. I don't know how they get up in the morning or live with their guilt, I would not wish to be in their shoes under any circumstances. I wish them continued power and I hope that one day they will have some sort of resolution.

The real sorrow is that 100s of children die every day, every minute of every hour a child is in terrible suffering, we don't hear about them. Madeline's case, no less tragic, but still statistically a rarity, gains more column inches than the suffering of 1000s of children get combined. Madeline is only special in that she is loved, middle-class, British and white. Not all children are born with such blessings.

I think that regardless of whether or not they did it or not, there was a horrible accident.

The question is, was it the parents who made the accident, resulting in madeline's untimely end, or was it the kidnappers who messed up?

There is evidence, but it's important not to jump to conclusions.

[edit on 10-7-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout

The real sorrow is that 100s of children die every day, every minute of every hour a child is in terrible suffering, we don't hear about them.

Very true, after all - you never hear about that kid from zimbabwe (i'm not trying to be specific here.) who was forcibly drafted into their military and was forced to terrify and kill his fellow countrymen.

There is cruelty out there that middle-class Britain, and probably every other pro-democratic western nation will never hear about from the MSM.

The kind that turns kids into mindless grunts for a war machine.

[edit on 10-7-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant

The kind that turns kids into mindless grunts for a war machine.

Or sewing beads onto clothes for Primark instead of learning how to read...

Or serving the sexual deviancies of western white males...

Or beaing beaten and brutalised because your smaller and weaker than they are and it makes them feel powerful...

Or forced to watch your mother being raped, your father dragged away never to be seen again

And the list goes on...and on and on. No disrespect to the McGann's but priorities are so wrong here...all that money and resources to one child.

I don't think they did it.

I think it's possible that there was an accident, which led to Madaline's death, which the distraught parents may have covered up out of guilt of leaving the children alone, and of course, when the media picked up on it, they had to continue to lie.

I do feel that there is some stuff we don't know (whether it be the media not legally being able to publish it, or the parents keeping secrets.) Something doesn't sit quite right with the parents, but I don't think they "did it".

What annoyed me most about this case is the media coverage. I'm not saying it didn't deserve as much coverage, but I think if Madaline was an ugly child, or, god forbid, not white, there wouldn't have been such a massive media circus. Also, as the previous poster said, all that money for one child, when there are children being taken and dying everyday seems a little vulgar.

To think the worst of people has somewhat come as second nature to a lot of people...myself included.

What struck me about the case was how everything just didn't seem to add up. They were across the street in a restaurant, enjoying a drink with their friends, while the kids were asleep in the room...with no supervision...not just Maddie, but the two babies....who does that? Who leaves their children alone in a foreign country? It would have been bad enough if they were left alone, at those ages, back at home, in England...but on holiday...?

Secondly, was the revelation that they had actually been using small amounts of drugs to make the children sleep sounder...at least I read this somewhere, or saw it on the news...kids and medications....

Third is the fact that the details of the story have been so inconsistent and the media coverage has been so vast...the best way to make someone forget or ignore something is to confuse them is to throw different details in people's faces, 24/7...

Here's how I, in the most cynical part of my self, think it went down. Several nights in Portugal, the McCanns did the whole, "putting the children to bed and going out for a nightcap with their friends" thing...they gave the children, or just Madeline, small doses of medication to help keep them asleep...on the night in questioning, one of the parents returned to the room, to check on the children, as a parent should to see that they were sleeping alright. I don't think she was found missing, I think she may have been found dead or near death. In a panic, the parents tried to get her to a hospital, but failed to do so in time....which is why DNA evidence was found in the car...

In a panic for their neglect, as well as the fact that here were two doctors, drugging their child, and her dying as a result of it, they panicked even more, fearing that if anyone found out, their careers were over, and their other children could be taken from them...so they ditched the body...somewhere, somehow...wouldn't be hard to charter a boat and dump it in the ocean…it also wouldn't be hard to bury it somewhere...deep...

They returned, cleaned up, made the report of her being kidnapped. But if someone was going to kidnap children to sell, or for whatever reason, why not take the babies as well...wouldn't have been too hard...?

Their guilt drove them to publicize it to the extent they did....and their guilty consciences forced them to so adamantly pursue the kidnappers...wishing that they could make it a kidnapping...and not an accidental death of their own child due to their own neglect and ignorance...

BUT

The thing is, this is the real world...and in the real world, we need evidence...fortunately, for the McCanns there isn't enough evidence to support my hypothesis. Therefore, it is equally possible, that their story is the correct one, that she has been kidnapped, perhaps by someone wanting to raise her as their own, perhaps by an illegal sex-ring, perhaps by the Illuminati because she is the anti-Christ, perhaps by Aliens... Unfortunate for Madeline, no situation that anyone comes up with will locate her and return her to her parents...so, my final conclusion is...

...all we can do is hope that wherever she is, she is not suffering. And send our best wishes to her family...because there is not enough evidence for us to send them our worst wishes...and no doubt, they are already living in their own person Hells for their neglectful mistakes...

If they didn't kill her and dump her body they should still be prosecuted for neglect. failing that negligent homicide....
To leave your child unattended is sheer stupidity. From supposidly intelligent people Both are doctors apparently. It only takes a second to lose sight of a child on the streets ..
There's been stories here in the UK of mothers leaving their children to go on holiday . Granted its slightly longer than going for a tapas, but they still get prosecuted when they get back home. To leave 3 children alone in a home or building is criminal , just so they can meet with friends and have a good time. I Think they should have they're remaining children put into foster care and then jailed for a year. Before people say "they'll suffer for the rest of their lives" I know that and all I can say is GOOD.
Any parent leaving a child unattended is just asking for trouble. Our children are supposed to be protected until their old and mature enough to look after themselves. The lack of good parenting these days is astoundingly awful.

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout

And the list goes on...and on and on. No disrespect to the McGann's but priorities are so wrong here...all that money and resources to one child.

The nature of importance...

Say what we like, but when the atrocities of war like those you mentioned occur in a domestic/secure environment, like for example psychotics found with people locked in their basements, the public reaction is pretty much the same.

We become shocked, we feel a little sick inside, we get on with our day.

Nothing is done to prevent it from happening again.

Originally posted by Dermo
Im sure if there was evidence that they did it - they would be arrested for it. Personally, i find it hard to believe that a regular mother could have been involved in killing her daughter and carry on. That kind of remorse and guilt would kill a mother.

The only way i would think it was a cover up by the parents is if one of their other children accidentally killed her and the McCanns didn't want to ruin that child's life.

I have no idea who or what the OP is referring to, but I will tell you this:

Statistically speaking, the most dangerous person to a child is that child's single mother living by herself, followed by a live-in boyfriend/stepfather, followed by the mother with a live-in boyfriend/stepfather. That is the order of people that are most dangerous to a child, as politically incorrect as it is to say it.

The biological father, despite all that the news wants you to believe, is the LEAST likely to harm their children.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot

Statistically speaking, the most dangerous person to a child is that child's single mother living by herself, followed by a live-in boyfriend/stepfather, followed by the mother with a live-in boyfriend/stepfather.

Mhmm...

Not quite, you should probably have put that the most dangerous person to a child is the child itself.

The nasty thing is the kind of mentality that people can get into if given time, for example; a relationship which starts out with good intentions may become hellish and violent if the people propogating that relationship become desperate to find reasons to stay together.

A relationship which starts out as a matter of nessecity, as in; a child will give the family a better overall image - well, that child would probably be better off as a mindless grunt instead of being surrounded with insincerity and false affections.

Perhaps it is time for we in the western society to re-evaluate the way we look towards others in our society, and that includes those withint western society.