RED CELL - Secret Military Terrorism Organization

Coolhand, I have Navy SEAL in my signature and no one is accusing me of impersonating.....?

I think it's a real shame that he was banned, if it's for the reasons or result of this thread, maybe it was something else ?


I was starting to do some research at home last night on RED CELL, had to run out, but it was beginning to look very veyr interesting and as I said before, I can't wait to read some of the books by Marcinko (sp).

I was starting to do some research at home last night on RED CELL, had to run out, but it was beginning to look very veyr interesting and as I said before, I can't wait to read some of the books by Marcinko (sp).



I would also recommend "One Perfect Op," it tells the story of the formation of RED CELL from one of the plank owners. It was an awesome book and I read it in a single day.

BTW We aren't messing with you (nor will we) on the signature because you already publicly said that you weren't one.

Coolhand, what was your profession in the forces?

FWIW, I've seen a wide variety of titles out there and locations. I thought most people used those fields as a joke. Who would log on here and claim to be located at the NSA, or the FBI, et al? For one thing, unless they are staffers on a cointel or disinformation program it's unlikely they would be able to access this site from their offices.

I guess I just kind of read those lines and laughed at them mostly. JMO.

Originally posted by titian
Coolhand, what was your profession in the forces?

Still active duty in the Navy.

Just about all I can say without boring the heck out of people with my job description.

By the way,

It's my understanding that NavSpecwar was not banned because of this thread.



sorry to interupt, please continue

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[Edited on 24-3-2004 by DAR]

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by DAR]

Let me also add that Red Cell was to operate by some basic rules. Starchild stated correctly that Marcinko had a great deal of latitude, but still he was hampered by the political machine.

When moving about Red Cell was to take military aircraft. They were to operate with "rules". They were to be conventional. They had to designate the target and then call - "Hi there, going to attack your base Tuesday, is that good for you?"

What made Red Cell successful in their true mission, is that they were "unconventional" warrors. That is the SEAL way and that is the same way terrorists operate.
No rules. No games.

Marcinko used public transportation. They used unconventional methods of access (stealing a keycard at a bar over calling the base to get a key). They did whatever they had to do. Need more weapons and IEDs? Then hit the hardware store, not a military armory. They did it the right way. Of course it was wrong to the "brass". Red Cell made them look stupid. They pointed out huge flaws in the security of almost every place they went to.

And yes, rumor has it they did take Airforce One.

I hate to disappoint but in the late 80's
all the seal teams did this while not actively
deployed elsewhere.it started when there
was a surge of attacks against Military bases
Naval ships were included to try to help
shipboard security understand the type of
attacks they would be vulnerable to when
deployed overseas.


reply to post by ADVISOR

Yep he did take out air force one when it was landed at Point Magu naval base in ventura county california. just north of Los Angeles. Harassed the base all weekend over mamorial day weekend. Outsmarted the cops, the fire department, naval security, rent-a -cops, military police, state police, the FBI, and the secret service. His guys stole a wepons carrier loaded with a pallet full of 500lb dummy bombs. covered it with a tarp and parked it in the officer bachlor quarters parking lot for 2 days with nobody noticing it or questioning it. then after planting fake explosives inthe engien nacelles for about half a dozen f-18 hornets he drove the weapons carrier right up to air force one and walked away. the bomb disposal guys showed up disarmed the fake bombs and then tried to drive the weapons carrier away. unfortunantly for them Red Cell also booby traped the drivers seat which would also set off the bombs. Security missed that set off the bombs while it was under AF1. he also took out several communications buildings and some other buildings during mock assult over at point magu on the same weekend. really really worked over the base.

my friend who I am sure is a Lt. Commander in one of the tems on the west coast. he doesn't talk too much about marcinko other than that he was/is a genius at SF. they do study his techniques and missions over at SF training. They recognize his talent but they all sort of shun him. call him a meat eater or someone who's crossed over. a SF operator who kills with too much relish. sorta unstable that way and abrasive in character so he is shuned, but heavily respected and revered.

I recommend any of richards books except his two ltest ones holy terror, vengence, and violence of action which are all poorly writen, buuuut....his earlier stuff is kick ass make no appologies hard core SF stuff. good reading.

[edit on 14-9-2007 by Project_Silo]

Richard(NMN) Marchinko is team leader of RED CELL 2, some of the members of the original RED CELL team are part of this new unit. They did some work for Homeland Security, pointing out lapses in the security of the U.S., and from what ive read, Richard and his team embarrassed the heck out of Homeland Security. Unfortuneatly, the Goverment has the H.I.A. Syndrome, (head in ass).

From what I know Red Cell Is Not a division with in the Gov it is more of a Directive that gives the Power to the Dept. of homeland security. The Directive is to hire PMC's or take a present SF team and give them the mission of infiltrating Our bases to test the lapse in security but it also serves as a testing ground to see where the SF teams talent is and if they are able to succeed in the mission. When infiltrating the bases they are authorized to use Non-lethal force IE: Tazers, Gas, ETC. one of the Bigger PMC's that are hired to test our bases security is Blackwater USA, but also SF teams are pulled from The US Navy SEALs, Marine Force recon, Delta Force, and Air force SF's. One Mission I do know about was Un-Classified a while ago where a team of U.S. SEALs and 6 sub Officers was to invade a Navy base I wount say where and steal a Sub. Nether less this was in 2002 but they did succeed. Thats all I got Red Cell.

[edit on 21-9-2007 by Danman]

Originally posted by American Mad Man
Wow man, you really need to take that off. Thats like saying you are a Pro Bowl QB when you never even played highschool football.

Do you say that in its coded meaning or just a medaphor? Were you NFL?

[edit on 21-9-2007 by Redge777]

One thing I do know is that SEALs get really pissed when they see somebody who isn't a seal wearing the budwieser or pretending to be a seal. I don't think people really understand even after watching them train how hard and painfull and challanging the BUDs course is or the finishing schools they have to go to, and the SERE training has got to put them above 99.9999999999 percent of humanity as far as trials and tribulations go. These people are seriously tough and don't respect anybody who pretends to even understand what they go through.

A real SEAL will kick someones ass just on principle for wearing the budwieser without actually deserving, or earning the right to wear one.

I'm not a SEAL, but to them it's an issue they take very very seriously. Plus having some, in the words of richard marcinko, puss-nuts diplo dweep wannabe pretending to be you you'd be pretty pissed too.

The anology that was given a few posts ago about the footballers who pretend that they were pro and never even went varsity sorta touches on the topic, buuuuuuuut. thats just football. Anybody who wants to can learn how to play football. it's just a sport anybody can experience it and have some familiarity to it and understand. somehow I don't think that what a seal does anybody other than the select few who have the mental energy or willpower to become one or is one could understand. I know one, I know some other SF operators from other branches of the military. They are my friends they see things in me that they can respect, we hang out when they have time and go drinking. they tell me a suprising amount about what they have done or do do, and at the same time a suprising amount they don't disclose, even to me their buddy and trusted friend, yadda yadda, but I would never ever pretend to believe even for a second that I am one of them or even on the same level, and if I did I know they would all sit me down for a long talk about my dillusions.

Another thing that pisses them off and me too since I know what they've gone through is that people pretend to be SEALs or any SF operator cause they think it's cool. funny the SF operators don't think of it that way. to them it's a very serious job revolving around very very serious business. and none of these wannabes who claim to be seals ever think about the self sacrifice, pain,scarring, post traumatic stress, the upheaval of their families and love ones. the "visitors" (the people they have seen killed or that they have killed themselves while deployed) that pop up into their lives without warning and make them intesly remorseful day in and day out and haunt them for the rest of their lives. all that plays on their minds too. they make that sacrifice in their lives and to see some attention starved wannabe running around pretending to be someone who has sacrificed so much would piss me off too.

So yes SEALs take serious offense to someone other than their bretheren wearing a budwieser.

One other thing and then I'll finish my rant one more thing that I know really pisses SEALS off from experiencehanging with a few is ACTORS. yes those people who are paid millions of dollars to go on the silver screen and be proffesional liars and wannabes. nothing pisses off a seal more than professional wannabes running around in peachy clean fatiuges a body built to look pretty and not to make war pretending to be some ruff n tuff SF operator. yes I'm talking to you tom cruise, arnold shwarzeneggar, jamie fox, demi moore and all you other wannabes. the real ones don't even have a drop of respect for you for that.

OK now I'm done.

i did some research on Red Cell they were a really interesting organization. most of the military hated them because they would always be harassing bases, i wonder about what there still classified missions were...

raptor

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I used to know some people in the UK special boat service (SBS, equivalant to the US SAS) who used to talk about 'bagging a base' it literally was a tally of bases around the world that they'd 'broken into' i'm pretty sure they exagerated some of it to make it sound cooler, but i know most of what they said was the straight up truth, because they were that sort of people,

having said that, the bit where the guy said he laid in a sewage pipe for 2 days waiting for something to get flushed out so he could get up into another outflow pipe through the open valve was exagerated... i'm pretty sure his mate reckoned it was more like 20 minutes... but it still hapened, just not quite like he said!

they didn't have cool code names like 'redcell' operations had names but I didn't get to know what they were!

there was a competition to get a chance to bag another base though... they were popular assignments because they got the oportunity to use unorthodox techniques they wouldn't usually use in everyday ops

They weren't meant to perform terrorist acts, they were meant to penetrate military bases to test their security. They would plant FAKE explosives on materials and planes, FAKE kill people, etc., but they never harmed anyone. They were disbanded, probably because they were too successful.

Although Red Cell did do only Fake Kills at the bases. Marcinko has stated that the Red Cell unit was also a cover for doing clandestine operations when deployed around the globe to asses Naval security.

Ie. they would go to some US naval base to test security that was located in some hotspot around the world, and then would slink off to do a real mission from time to time doing god knows what. but Marcinko did say that maybe some of the covert missions were to eliminate threats to the US. Then they'd go back to their security assesments or be doing both operations at the same time. Everybody thought they were just checking security. But Marcinko has tacitly said that they were doing much more than that just testing security.

Maybe if these people, who've posted replies, would take the time to read the book, they wouldn't be so apt to criticize. The Red Cell was an elite group of Navy Seals and Marines, 12 altogether, who were given the authority to test the US military's security on ships, and bases, and even Air Force One. they succeeded in infiltrating all of them, and even acquiring a few sensitive items....it's not all over the damn internet and not that easy to locate info on, mainly because it's a little something they called Top Secret....