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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Why are you complaining about this?
The increase in trade is with consumer goods like cigaretts and hairspray. Our government is supporting the people of Iran because we know the people are very westernized. Isn't this what you liberals out there want? We are helping and supporting the people of Iran and at the same time we are putting pressure on the govenment of Iran to let the people be free of the stranglehold.
Originally posted by mybigunit
Sigh how many times have I proven to you I am no liberal.
This war is being brought on so the profiteers and make money. Just like most if not all of the other wars we have fought.
Originally posted by Vipassana
The United States is also dramatically boosting the Iranian economy by causing the price of oil to skyrocket through the inflation of the dollar resulting from horrid economic policies over the last 7 years.
reply to post by WhatTheory
WhatThaory Said: We are not trading weapons or anything which could be used for the military. Again, its all consumer goods which they desperately want.
Hey, who knew? We can buy used an F-14's for a few grand... I sure hope there is a thread on here about that too.
Sanctions are intended in part to frustrate Iran's efforts to build its military, but the U.S. government's own figures show at least $148,000 worth of unspecified weapons and other military gear were exported from the United States to Iran during Bush's time in office. That includes $106,635 in military rifles and $8,760 in rifle parts and accessories shipped in 2004, the data shows.
Also shipped to Iran were at least $13,000 in "aircraft launching gear and/or deck arrestors," equipment needed to launch jets from aircraft carriers, according to U.S. records. Iran's navy is not believed to own or operate any carriers.
Those numbers may seem small, but military items can sell for pennies on the dollar compared with what the Pentagon paid. Last year, federal agents seized four F-14 fighter jets sold to domestic buyers by an officer at Point Mugu Naval Air Station, Calif., for $2,000 to $4,000 each, with proceeds benefiting a squadron recreation fund. When F-14s were new, they cost roughly $38 million each.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
The trade with Iran has nothing to do with profiteering. The trade currently with Iran has to do with keeping the people in good spirits regarding the west. Once this radical islamic government is put down, Iran will prove to be a great ally because of the people. We are not trading weapons or anything which could be used for the military. Again, its all consumer goods which they desperately want.
Originally posted by mybigunit
Kind of how Iraq was going to greet us as liberators and be great allies?
Yes this is about profiteering.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Umm....well, they did great us as liberators. Remember all the cheering the days after the initial war and the toppling of the Saddam statue. You are confusing the Iraqi people with the terrorists and foreign national we currently fighting there. Once Iraqi government get stable and the U.S. and its allies move out, you will see that they were very grateful for removing their dictator.
Sorry, but the current trade we have with Iran is not about profiteering. It's about the Irainian people and keeping them in good spirits about the west.