Mother Shipton predicted Planet X and UFO's in 1550!

Mother Shipton predicted Planet X and UFO's in 1550!

How many of you have heard of Mother Shipton?

She predicted many things in or around 1550, Airplanes, submarines, Internet, Planet X ww111 and loads of stuff that's happening to-day!

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Why is it that the prophets of old almost always had a poetic bent? Would it have killed them to speak plainly? Here's a prophecy for you. (Within our lifetimes, computer will reach a point of miniaturization where you can wear them as contacts or have them on a fingernail) Does that make me a prophet? No, it's a logical progression. 40 or so years ago, computers filled up entire ROOMS. Today? Look at your Iphone. It's a computer. Tomorrow? As small as you want. I could sit here all day long and spin tales of the future that would have a better than 75% rate of being correct but that doesn't make me a prophet, it only makes me knowledgeable. Some people are intelligent enough to buck trends and make informed guesses as to the future. As to this "prophecy" crap, please let our current prophets not use poetic verse. It's liable to re-start the Spanish Inquisition.

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Gazbom

Yeah ok'

but you didn't make it ryme so it doesn't count!

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I want to see DIRECT links of attribution to the "prophecy" on that guys blogspot. Sorry, but I'm calling BULL#. I'd be willing to bet it's the same as that supposed Nostradamus quatrain "released" after 9/11 that supposedly told of the fall of the two towers only to later be proven false.



Don't bother, had you bothered to Wiki Mother Shipton, you would have read this.....


"Prophecies

The most famous example of Mother Shipton's prophecies apparently foretells many aspects common to modern civilization and predicts the end of the world in 1881; however, it is now known to be a 19th century forgery, which did not appear in print until 1862:" FORGERY-------------> DRIVE THROUGH

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Second edit: It amazes me how the youth of today, with arguably all of Human knowledge available at their beck and call with the wondrous advent of the Internet, don't BOTHER to even use it. FACEPALM

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gazbom
With regard to those debunkers who view her prophecies as a hoax, their attack is mostly historical in nature, because her prophecies first appeared in print in 1641, eighty years after her death. They also express the opinion that English editor and biographer Richard Head first corrupted her prophetic writings in 1684, then that English publisher Charles Hindley corrupted them once again in 1861.

Originally posted by gazbom56
gazbom
With regard to those debunkers who view her prophecies as a hoax, their attack is mostly historical in nature, because her prophecies first appeared in print in 1641, eighty years after her death. They also express the opinion that English editor and biographer Richard Head first corrupted her prophetic writings in 1684, then that English publisher Charles Hindley corrupted them once again in 1861.

Did you just send a message to yourself??? Ok. I'm jumping off of this crazy train right about.......NOWISH. Do you REALLY think, that in the annals of "prophecy" that the prophetic bent would somehow lend itself to predicting COMBINES? WHEAT THRESHERS??? Dear God man! Pick another dark horse and run with it, but this ship is taking on water and the rat's are jumping ship EN MASSE!

gazbom
With regard to those debunkers who view her prophecies as a hoax, their attack is mostly historical in nature, because her prophecies first appeared in print in 1641, eighty years after her death. They also express the opinion that English editor and biographer Richard Head first corrupted her prophetic writings in 1684, then that English publisher Charles Hindley corrupted them once again in 1861.

In nineteen hundred and twenty six
Build houses light of straw and sticks.
For then shall mighty wars be planned
And fire and sword shall sweep the land.

By May of 1926, Adolf Hitler had finally crushed his rivals within the Nazi Party and became the party's supreme leader (Führer), giving him the time to lay the plans of his 1000-year Reich, in the village of Berchtesgaden in the peaceful, scenic mountains of Bavaria.

Hitler regarded his "quiet years" (1926 to 1929) as one of the happiest times of his life, because during this time, he planned WWII and the Holocaust in the comfort of this idyllic Bavarian setting.

This also fulfills Mother Shipton's prophecy, "For then shall mighty wars be planned," for a violent German Reich future. In addition to that, Mother Shipton provides two more authentication prophecies.

"Mother Shipton, also known as Ursula Sonthiel Shipton, was born in 1488 in Yorkshire, England, and lived until 1561. According to legend, her birth was the result of a union between her mother and the devil. When she was born, she was reportedly hideously ugly.

This is a description of her as a child written by a later biographer:

“Very morose and big boned, her head very long, with very great goggling, but sharp and fiery Eyes, her Nose of an incredible and unproportionate length, having in it many crooks and turnings, adorned with many strange Pimples of diverse colours, as Red, Blew, [sic] and mixt, which like Vapours of Brimstone gave such a lustre of the Night, that one of them confessed several times in my hearing, that her nurse needed no other light to assist her in the performance of her duty.”

As Ursula grew older she began to tell fortunes and predict the future. For instance, she predicted that Cardinal Wolsey would see York, but never go to it. Sure enough, in 1530 Cardinal Wolsey was travelling to York. He climbed to the top of a tower and saw the town in the distance, but just then received a message from King Henry VIII asking him to return to London. He died on the way back to London, thus fulfilling Mother Shipton’s prophecy.

She later made other prophecies, the most famous of which described future technology:

Carriages without horses shall goe,
And accidents fill the world with woe.
Around the world thoughts shall fly
In the twinkling of an eye....
Under water men shall walk,
Shall ride, shall sleep and talk;
In the air men shall be seen,
In white, in black and in green....
Iron in the water shall float,
As easy as a wooden boat.

Her most famous prophecy was this:

The world to an end shall come,
In eighteen hundred and eighty one.


The first known edition of Mother Shipton’s prophecies appeared in print in 1641, eighty years after her death. However, the most important editions of her work appeared in 1684, edited by Richard Head (this edition included the earliest biographical information about her), and in 1862, edited by Charles Hindley.

Mother Shipton’s prophecies are hoaxes, because it now appears that almost all of them were written by others after the events they described had already happened. For instance, the first record of her prophecy about Cardinal Wolsey dates from 1641, long after the man had died. Her prophecies about future technology, and about the world coming to an end in 1881, first appeared in print in the 1862 edition of her sayings, and Charles Hindley, the editor of that edition, later admitted that he had composed them.

The existence of Mother Shipton herself is uncertain. Her 1684 biographer, Richard Head, apparently invented most of the details of her life. In fact, she may never have existed outside of Yorkshire legend."

www.museumofhoaxes.com...


Care to continue?

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gazbom
First is his her prophecy that "fire and sword" of the Nazi war machine would sweep across Europe as it did. Second is her reference to "straw and sticks" which is equally important.

This prophecy goes straight to the heart of the June 22, 1941 Nazi invasion of Russia with Operation Barbarossa.

Even as his ground and air forces were being decimated on a wholesale basis, Russian leader Joseph Stalin allowed himself to be paralyzed into silence by his fear of Hitler.
In the course of carrying out Stalin's "scorched earth" policy hundreds of thousands of "straw and sticks" peasant homes with thatched roofs in the Ukraine were burned to the ground, along with their verdant crops.

This is hilarious. Are you sending messages to yourself? You do know that you have to log out in order to boost your thread as anonymous, right?

But on topic, I don't trust anyone who foretells the future. It is said that only God knows the future, anything else is trend-spotting. (or reading into someone's flowery speech)

Back to whatever you two were doing.

gazbom

why do you think I'm sending messages to my self?

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Honestly?

Because you are starting all your posts addressed to yourself. Can't you see that?

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You mean I have to do it like this?

Gazbom.

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I'm a new member, not used to everything yet, thanks for all the friendly help though!

Gazbom.

A lot of people add their name at the end of a post, it's a normal thing. It's a little annoying though when a post starts off like that because it does look like you're talking to yourself.

You're also using ATS to advertise your blog. I'm pretty sure that's not allowed unless you've been a member for a certain amount of time first and only if it's a link in your signature, but I could be wrong.

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So I have to put my link in the signature box?
Was not aware of doing anything wrong!

Gazbom.

Originally posted by Zenagain
As to this "prophecy" crap, please let our current prophets not use poetic verse. It's liable to re-start the Spanish Inquisition.

What the hell does "poetic verse" have to do with the Spanish Inquisition?


In centuries long past, poetry was used to make lengthy compositions more entertaining, to help hold the reader's attention and add a little verve to otherwise tedious narrative. The ancient Greeks wrote whole volumes of such "poetry," usually in recounting historical events and mythical epics. Medieval Europeans of the more elevated class (those who could afford the luxury of education) learned how to read and write through poetry, and so had perhaps more lyrical composition skills.

Come to think of it, our ancestors were much more literate, articulate, and lyrical than we are today with our dry, simplistic, and humorless communications skills. But the ancients were not less capable of conveying concise information, and the fact that much (if not most) of the old texts leaned toward poetic verse is not a valid reason to discount their informational content.

Remember that Homer's Iliad was for centuries considered a mythical epic poem, full of heroic and tragic characters and gods coexisting with humans — certainly a work of fiction, right? That was the consensus, anyway, until 19th Century amateur archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann decided to use Homer's Iliad as a map to locate the ancient city of Troy.

Which he did. Troy was a real city, it turns out, forgotten to history and basically ignored by scholars because it only figured prominently in an ancient poem.

So, I don't discount Nostradamus or Mother Shipton merely on the basis of their poetic approach. I reject them because: 1. Nostradamus was deliberately vague and ambiguous — such that his gibberish could be interpreted in a million different ways, limited only by the imaginations of his readers, and; 2. Mother Shipton's "prophecies" were most likely latter-day hoaxes.

But don't let that put you off of poetry.

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Sorry, thought you were doing it on purpose. Welcome to ATS!!

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Mother Shipton's "prophecies" were most likely latter-day hoaxes.

If they were latter-day hoaxes, ie 1881, they are still amazing!

Gazbom

It's fine, just make a few minor adjustments and everything should be cool.
Nothing for us to get bent out of shape about. People around here tend to jump on each other over the slightest things. I find it very unnecessary.

You might also want to take a look at the rules and try and follow the other members lead in what is an isn't acceptable.

Welcome to the site.

I'll check out your link now and respond.

- Lee