Does current ATS believe that Alex Jones is a disinfo agent?

Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by harvib

 

I think Mr. Jones mixes his researched truths with a healthy dose of drama, factored by some equally healthy commericalism, and viola! I can't fault that, it's the financial dream. I just wonder what it'd sound like undiluted.

i enjoy the majority of your posts, but honestly this sounds like something a kid would say on the playground.

come on ppl. look around you!! are you so awake that you are blind to the fact that the greater part of the population is not?

alex's "antics" have a designed purpose; that purpose being to CATCH THE ATTENTION of those who are NOT awake.

if someone is in a DEEP sleep, simply whispering their name isn't going to jolt them out of that sleep. no, you have to get loud, be entertaining, and appeal to what they are being hypnotized to recognize, i.e glitz and glammar.

he isnt' trying to speak to the already awakened........ that is for ppl like ron paul and others who are more low key. the awakened dont' need to be entertained by illusions to be content. truth is our entertainment. the asleep though, need to be razzled and dazzled.


and he sells SOME info for a two fold purpose. THIS IS HIS JOB. if you don't have money, how are you going to reach the world at this point? how do you eat, have a place to sleep, get around the country etc? also, when it comes to movies and such, most of the asleep think if it isn't for sell than it isn't worth their time.

stop dragging your fellow awakened brother through the mud. does it matter how or who is putting out the truth so long as it gets out there?

Alex Jones is a real flesh and blood Texan man. He just might redeem Texas after the George W. Bush fiasco foisted on the world.

The man is no disinfo agent. I think there are some things he doesn't talk about too much because he thinks the very worst group of people who are a threat to humanity are the secularists in the Bilderberg Group and the various associations like CFR et al. So he focuses the light on them when very few were doing so.

I know the first time I heard him I was convinced he was lunatic. But now that I know what I know about the madmen in charge of the USA, Canada, and the UK, it is very clear that he is sane.

And that's tuppence from me.

Originally posted by Pellevoisin
Alex Jones is a real flesh and blood Texan man. He just might redeem Texas after the George W. Bush fiasco foisted on the world.

lol i hear ya! i just wish though that ppl would look at the texans like we americans ask the rest of the world to look at us. we are not our government. we are real ppl w/ real lives. same thing here in tx. and technically Bush is not texan. those of us born and raised here have a strict rule that unless you were born here, you cannot claim to be texan. there is no citizenship class you get to go through lol. he is from conneticut. so, cant we just blame them?

My current belief is that there is no possible way that he could be 100% correct about everything, and not conveniently have a terrible accident.
Think William Cooper.

Originally posted by RubyGloom
My current belief is that there is no possible way that he could be 100% correct about everything, and not conveniently have a terrible accident.
Think William Cooper.

well, coopers public awareness started in the 80's, is that not right? and he died in 2001. so, he went quite sometime being able to get his message out before he was killed.

when we were in the austin television circle w/ alex that was something like 1996 i think.. and still wasn't until after 2001 that alex really started to become known by the public.

and don't think they don't have their eye on him just because he is still walking around. i think you would be suprised if you really knew the behind scenes of what he goes through.

also, in all fairness, wasn't cooper armed when he was confronted? i am not sure of the whole story behind what happened w/ him... just tidbits.

an no, i doubt alex exposes the full truth, btw. he exposes enough to make ppl aware so that they will be catapulted into going and looking at the facts themselves. alex is aware how things work. but still, i am sure he
is being watched and he knows this. he knows his life is at risk. . which is
sad, bc we need more men that are willing to speak out instead of being cowards.

[edit on 4-7-2008 by justamomma]

www.youtube.com...

this is the video that that fully exposes AJ as your enemy. i don't want to spread his disease, but maybe it will help you realize that the man is not on your side. (well, unless you anticipate with glee the fully risen 4th Reich-Alien Insectoid-4th Dimension satanic vampire-brutal enslavement of humanity and the desecration of all that is holy and beautiful in this world.)

in the video he is using black magick, trying to convince you that you are already defeated. don't believe him and you should be ok watching it. don't ever believe these people. they are trying to defeat you without even fighting you. it's a mental war. psyching you out. it is pure evil if you ask me, and we defeat evil with evil.

this will be my last post for awhile. got more 'important' things to attend to other than letting ATS suck away my lifeforce. perhaps you might do the same? the 'shift' is coming so stop wasting your time looking at fake UFO vids and reading through lines and lines of ignorant dribble!!

~there is Truth in Beauty~
~the GArdEn is always one thought away~

peace be with you, and may you of courage and faith always be fortunate

~Z.S.P.V.G.~

Though this is an old thread I hope that my reply is read.

I saw THE most telling site concerning Alex Jones here at www.alexjonesmachine.com... (this site shows his mansion **bought by his fans** and much more)

The repeated statements by Alex Jones of infowars.com concerning his contempt of "The Anglo-American Establishment" are very telling indeed.

Alex Jones appears to have an alternate agenda.Alex Jones websites infowars.com and prisonplanet.com use a globe as a logo and he has never portrayed The American Flag on his website in good light.


After studying Alex Jones for 10 years I am close to concluding that this man is a Communist as he promotes collective populism which leads to Communism.

Surely there would be multiple childhood friends or ex-girlfriend revenge blogs about Alex Jones if he was real. I have found nothing to indicate he existed much before his early media days. And why is Alex Jones on RUSSIA TIMES?

Everything he states is Anti-American. The mass buying of gold and silver promoted by Alex Jones could cause the dollar to crash. Our money system is based on faith (something I will get into when I can make my own posts) and if the base country loses faith we will not be the dominant financal power. Alex jones works to destroy that faith. By rooting for gold and silver to go through the roof he is wishing for the dollar to collapse and everyone who joins him including that loser Max Kaiser is contributing to this.

Follow Alex Jones money. He is moving it out of this country. If you love the U.S.A. you will not buy his merchandice. www.alexjonesmachine.com... will show you the truth behind Alex Jones as a disinfo agent.

I don't know if he is a disinfo agent but I would also clearly agree that he is on the side of the enemy rather than the side of good. He claims that he wants us to think but he does nothing of the sort. On all his shows I've heard him always say the same things over and over, he recycles a lot of material, and makes up polls citing them as proof as the American public are finally waking up to what he is talking about. I'd say the Corbett report is MUCH MORE reliable than AJ. AJ is the Bill O' Reilly of conspiracy theorists.

reply to post by Analyze76


I must say, I've heard alot of theories about Alex Jones, but I never heard him be called a communist before.

But about what I think about Alex Jones... I used to think he was just unbalanced. You hear about how there's a fine line between genius and crazy, and I used to think that Alex Jones would jump from side to side. Make 1 very good point about the US becoming an authoritarian police state, then yell a bunch about cancer viruses in vaccines.

But now, I'm starting to think his purpose is to make real dissenters, Libertarians and the like, look like a bunch of nutjobs. I used to listen to his show all the time but now I have trouble dealing with it. It's just too "in your face" for me, kinda like that voiceover guy on Manswers.

But what it boils down to is I don't like how 1 moment he comes across as a rational, highly intelligent man 1 second, then in the next he's yelling about chemtrails, 80% world population reduction, etc. Now as far as I know, there are only 3 possibilities for that:

• He legitimately believes all of this stuff and is just misguided or unbalanced. But he's giving it all he's got... right sometimes, wrong others, it's all good though.
  
• Having a 4-5 hour long radio show 6 days a week, and producing a few feature-length documentaries a year, he's running out of things to talk about. You can't go on the air for 5 hours everyday talking about the same thing all the time, so he needs to branch out to fill time.
  
• He talks about alot of things that make sense to draw our support, then acts crazy half the other time to discredit those who are legitimately waking up. I don't think I need to educate the ATS audience on CoIntelPro, but it would be foolish to think that the program just stopped and would never happen again. In my opinion, the patriot movement is a bigger threat to the powers that be than the organizations they admitted to infiltrating like the Black Panthers, because we raise real issues that transcend racial, economic, age & sex boundaries. We have evidence on our side (much of it from the government itself), we win elections, many patriots are getting armed, and we are able to communicate and organize with eachother very easily. If they did it before against a group that wasn't as threatening to the power structure, what makes you think they won't employ the same tactics against us? And is Alex Jones part of that?

So while I started out believing in the first option, as time goes on I'm starting to think the worst. This video doesn't make the point entirely but it does give some supporting evidence and deserves some consideration:

If it wasn't for Alex Jones I probably wouldn't have found ATS as early as I did, among other things, he and others are what woke me up, mainly being probed by doctors and prescribed medication is what made me start questioning what TPTB were doing, but without Alex I would not have learned so quickly, and I wouldn't have learned about many of the great people he has as guests on his show! I start to question his ways now as I learn more, but he definetely helps people wake up!

Alex Jones is not disinfo. Anyone who believes so is extremely paranoid. Lacking proof I might add.

The people that claim he's in it for the money are hilarious. Free movies? 10k prize contests? I know its a good form of advertisement, but advertisements are the only way to get the word out in this game. I don't care if the man pockets a mill a week, he's doing a great job spreading the word.

Originally posted by dntwastetime
Either Alex has incredibly long intro sections to each of his commercial breaks where he goes on and on talking , then by the time Nick speaks , It is only a few minuites of time for him to talk. Now Nick Defenetly gets his time to speak , It just really made me start to look at him closer, and listen observently to the way he handles his guests.

Theres a lot simpler explanations for long commercial breaks. Big guest = more commercials I would assume. More companies would like to have their commercials played during spikes of attention; just like the superbowl.
..and just because he is located in Texas means nothing...

Try going on air for 3 hours of your day (sometimes more) 6 days a week and you might start sounding like a script yourself. If you are worried about him reading from a script well you can watch his show in video format if you would like.

reply to post by ayoss


Alex Jones is becoming more noteworthy everyday as people are beginning to see exactly what he was yelling about years ago. I don't think he's out to discredit any truthers. Glenn Beck on the other hand, takes his information from Alex Jones (The real whistleblower) and then adds his crazy spins on things to discredit them. The typical response of a sheeple is that Glenn Beck is the real deal while Alex Jones is disinfo.

I couldn't take that video seriously. They were trying way to hard to make a conspiracy out of a conspiracy theorist.

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Why does he rant and shout ?
Because we are talking about nwo here something he and others Passionately oppose , if he showed no emotion id be worried .

Why does he ignore vatican ?
Because hes a proud American and is trying to show you what is happening in Your country ! That Leo zalgami is the guy if you want to know about Rome.

Money issue ?
Have you actually LISTENED or watched one of his documentaries ?
He tells you to burn copies of his work for the rest of your family and thats for high quality copies he has no problem with people downloading his work either .
but anyway, You wont let Alex Jones make money but you guys continue to support global chains and make the elite richer ? ? This guy was one of the pioneers and sites like ats owe a lot to his work.
Cmon lay off the guy lets see one of YOU do better !

heh , how can he be disinfo when most of what he sais is in the public domain and has been for years

if anything he has to much info to share

i will through in my 2 cents , AJ GB RL SH , all spout off saying what they believe is the truth is fact and what they get payed to do , make you think they are for you when they are for their own party, GB put down and made fun of his now found religion Rush "stop the tape, stop the tape!" is for his own self if the demos went and did what the Republicans do then he would be for the Dem's, Shawn Hannity well he says this and says that, some times he will put down what is if for ??? does that make sense? then Watching AJ come to a group that has the truth to say puts on a side show truing it in to a fiasco, does not sound like one to listen to, other then a good laugh and ..well replace a radio now and then, or want some thing to yell at ,like they could hear. when all said is done it all goes down this , Do what ever it takes to get ratings, make money, and have a fallowing. Truth or not, who cares the are sheepole any way.. can you say BBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..

reply to post by Doomzilla

i bet i could or for that matter you could do the same if not better, pick a topic any topic find a gruop of people that have the money to back you and then you to will have a fallowing, or be like Howard Stern. don't give a you know what, for any you know what thing just do it, say it but with styli, flair, and pozas.

reply to post by The_Zomar


How has Alex Jones advanced mankind?

I had a call 2 years ago from a guy in the middle of my state that wanted a full paint job on his home. He explained to me that he was from Albania which I replied that I had an old work friend named A. from Albania. The man stated that he would like for me to bring A. over for the estimate. The man snickered and stated he knew A. from Albania.

Though I only saw A. from time to time I mentioned this man to A. When I did mention his name A. became irate and wanted his address. He then called over four more Albanians which I was acquaintanced with all.

As it turnes out this man was the Alex Jones of Albania, who, it was revealed, helped stoke a civil war in Albania and now lives comfortably laughing at the suckers he conned in Albania.

I did not give the address to A. as he laughed at me for never killing anyone during my time in the service. That is the point of a strong Army.