Americans can learn much from Mexicans: Execution style death penalty.

Go here. See how Mexicans used to do it.

peaceaware.com...


Here we are in california. And people are on death row just waiting for the political process. California is going broke, millions of dollars are being spent on the humanistic style death penalty. I mean come on, they are going to die, why do we have to sign em up and have a list? why do we have to spend 2 million for each person? ridiculous.

Now the french style executions with the guillotine, that's too expensive. other methods are cool, like beating people with stones. too messy. So i'd figure it out. Get all the people in death row, line em up, get some cheap bullets and some marine firing squad to shoot and it's all over. You could do 200 at a time and save money.

if you don't believe me take the death penalty quiz here.

www.deathpenaltyinfo.org...

Discuss.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

One question:

How many people on death row have been wrongfully convicted of crimes that they didn't commit?

Originally posted by TheBandit795
How many people on death row have been wrongfully convicted of crimes that they didn't commit?

Only 7%. Still, those people are probably drug users with no future in sight and are better off being executed. I mean think about it man, how many people do you know who are in state prision that are any good to society at all? most likely those 7% deserve to be executed.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

Uhhh...you realize that Mexico does not have the death penalty right? They will refuse to extradite criminals wanted for capital crimes unless we assure them we won't seek the death penalty.

for those who don't know what i'm talking about. I'm trying to figure out a solution to our problem here in california.

see an article here. but there are many other articles about this today. it was on the news and I don't know what our governor arnold will do about this.

www.cbsnews.com...

www.usatoday.com...

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

Originally posted by jedimiller

Originally posted by TheBandit795
How many people on death row have been wrongfully convicted of crimes that they didn't commit?

Only 7%. Still, those people are probably drug users with no future in sight and are better off being executed. I mean think about it man, how many people do you know who are in state prision that are any good to society at all? most likely those 7% deserve to be executed.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

So now people who have used drugs deserve to be put to death?


I know quite a few people locked up in state prison who are for the most part good and decent people, they may have done some stupid act to land themselves there, but shy of murdering or raping someone I would say a great majority of people in prison deserve a second chance. They surely don't deserve to be put to death.


My question is how many people in state prison do YOU know? How would you feel if you had a family member with a drug problem? Would you be ready to line them up to be put to death also? And who are you to say these people "deserve" to be executed? What makes your life more valuable than theirs?



[edit on 7/1/08 by BlackOps719]

They tried to find a cost effective way of executing people back during WW2, they were called Gas Chambers.

If you want a solution, perhaps you should try and figure what's causing the problem in the first place before you go asking.

Originally posted by jedimiller

Originally posted by TheBandit795
How many people on death row have been wrongfully convicted of crimes that they didn't commit?

Only 7%. Still, those people are probably drug users with no future in sight and are better off being executed. I mean think about it man, how many people do you know who are in state prision that are any good to society at all? most likely those 7% deserve to be executed.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by jedimiller]

Probably does not mean that they are. See, you base your assumptions on air. That's not how any judicial system should work. Some of these people were unfortunate to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. There are numerous accounts where average Joe's like you and me were arrested up because they matched the description of the killer and where sentenced to death. And no, they were not drug users.

Here's one example, the case of Earl Washington Jr:

www.capitaldefenseweekly.com...

And a whole lot of information on the subject.
www.clarkprosecutor.org...

These people where found not to have committed a crime, and yet you want them murdered.

[edit on 1-7-2008 by TheBandit795]

let's get to the point. i'm talking about people who are on the list who are actually guilty. these people appeal and extend the process to years and years. Again, if we have a firing squad ready to go tomorrow, all those people who been on the waiting list for 2 or 4 years would be done. it's really a simple process..if the government can't do it, I ask them to contract me. I'd take pleasure in performing the executions myself. and i'd charge much less, saving californians money. let's use common sense.

Then they will convict you for the murder of so many death row inmates and put you on death row.

People being on death row, and the crimes they committed aren't the problem, just a symptom. Cure the problem, and you eliminate the need for death row. I don't know what that cure would be, but it's got to be better than the alternative.

Besides which, as long as 7% of the people are wrongly convicted, that's 7% to many to make execution a quick thing. Part of this country's, and the world's, problem is that life has become far to cheap. It should cost millions to put someone to death. That way, the people are damned sure they're making the right decision.

Originally posted by jedimiller
...it's really a simple process..if the government can't do it, I ask them to contract me. I'd take pleasure in performing the executions myself. and i'd charge much less, saving californians money. let's use common sense.

You can't possibly be serious. You are actually volunteering to be the one to pull the trigger, and advocating common sense at the same time. That's a little more than oxymoronic.

The appeals process in death penalty cases are there for a reason. Those innocent 7% who find themselves on death row are the very reason the appeals process exists.

Maybe that twitchy trigger finger of yours would be better suited for a paintball field then a firing squad.

Originally posted by jedimillergovernment can't do it, I ask them to contract me. I'd take pleasure in performing the executions myself. and i'd charge much less, saving californians money. let's use common sense.

Common sense? You sound like a poor pathetic, lonely, powerless, angry
kid that wants people to think you are some kind of macho gunslinger. That's not common sense; what you are suggesting is more in line with
fantasy and comic book swagger.

Very akin to youth that glorify war, killing, explosions, guns and adrenaline rushes; until they are faced with the real thing.

I understand youthful compensation for fear and loneliness. I been there.

Topic.....
What we can learn from the Mexicans is the concept of Mañana and Que Descanse.






[edit on 6-7-2008 by whaaa]

The guy has been prosecuted! He's found guilty! I'm not talking about the chances here, there are no chances when you are in death row. You are waiting and waiting and waiting..there's a line for years and years and in the meantime these guys are eating food, working out, reading and using our tax dollars. Until someone doesn't "ball up" to executing the death sentence, it doesnt work. Yes, Mexico doesn't have the firing squad death penalty anymore, but when they did, they lined up about ten or so and finished it up in less than a minute. They executed 10 people in one day, and for us it's going to take ten years just to execute those same 10 people. costing us, the taxpayers, a billion a year just to have them sit in line. that's what I mean about common sense. And yes, I volunteer to do it myself, I can do the execution for less too. We don't need all of this politicians controlling the penalty and keeping us from punishing these people, who are criminals. 100% criminals who should have been dead long before and if they were in other countries.
Look at Iraq, they executed Saddam after the court found him guilty. took no more than one day and the process was over. That's something we could be doing. is it democratic? you bet. found guilty? walk outside the door, join the others liine up and close your eyes. I would be glad to pull that trigger. Ball me up

If this is the same jedimiller who ran a thread in which he claimed that BluRay video is no better than common DVDs (or other such ludicrous claim), then I'm not suprise to see that mastermpiece of nonsense here.