Was Jules Verne the viewer of the Modernity? what was the secret of his prophetic skills?

The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,

Dear Readers,
I start this thread to discuss the role of one of the most interesting and outstandings intellectuals of the Modern times. Jules Verne has been along more than a century not only one of the most famous Science fiction authors but also the best accurate predictor of the advance of Science and Technology in the future.
The Novels of Jules Verne have predicted the aspects of the future times in a way in which no body could do almost a century before the facts:

- In Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea, 1869, He predicted the development of Submarines moved by so efficient new energy sources, his famous Nautilus was the prototype in which it is inspired the modern Nuclear models that we have now.

- He predicted the Space era, the exploration of other worlds, his famous novel From the Earth to the Moon, 1865, is a so impressive prediction of the way, the country and the characteristics of he first manned space mission to the Moon.

- In Around the World in Eighty Days, 1872, he predicted how the modern communications will enshorten the size of the planet and that this would happen for ordinary passengers.

- In 1863, Jules Verne wrote Paris in the 20th Century, the life of a young man who lives in a world of glass skyscrapers, high-speed trains, gas-powered automobiles, calculators, and a worldwide communications network, yet cannot find happiness and comes to a tragic end.

- Off on a Comet 1877 can be considered a prediction about an event like the one occured in Tunguska, Evenkia, in the Center Siberia in 1908.

Jules Verne emerge among all his contemporaries as an enigmatic serious and conventional intellectual that also could reached prestige as actual prophet of the future, his forecasts provided information about other epochs that were really so difficult to imagine in his time, like he was able to travel through time in his subconscious mind.

It is very well known that Verne confessed to have build many of his fantatic novels based on his own dreams about the future, in other words he tooks inspiration from the Oniric world, from messages received while he was slept, in a very similar way than the hypnotic work of Edgar Cayce in the 1920's in America.

But if Jules Gabriel Verne was a viewer of the future, a person that with his imagination was able to travel through incoming epochs, as it looks from such list of accomplished forecasts, what can we expect of the remaining books that are still pending of accomplishing?

I would like to concentrate your atention, and also motivate your investigation about some of his other less known books like:

- Invasion of the Sea

- The Lighthouse at the End of the World

- A Journey to the Center of the Earth

- Michael Strogoff

- Master of the World

Can this novels, among others still unaccomplished, the key of the prediction of the future? Was this man that was recipient of the honor legion of France the Nostradamus of the XIX and XX century?

Does Jules Verne literary works represent the evidence of the break of the last frontier of knowledge that is still a challange for Science, the one that still remains untouched by the modern technology: to be able to travel through time?

Lets start this interesting discussion that I hope will catch the eye of many readers of this forum of predictions & Prophecies.

Thanks for your atention,

your friend,

The Angel of lightness




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The peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

Today I am going to focus my atention to the first of the books I mentioned in my open post of this thread of Jules Verne:

Invasion of the Sea (French: L'Invasion de la mer)

This Novel is an adventure that happen in the Sahara desert, in which it is shown the explotation that is done by the European explorers and adventurers in the region over the native Arab nomads.

The foreigners develop a very ambitious project to study feasibility of flooding a low-lying region of the Sahara desert to create an inland sea and open up the interior of Northern Africa to trade.

In the end, Nevertheless , the Westerns' pride in the Human potential to control and reshape the world is humbled by a cataclysmic earthquake which results in the natural formation of just such a sea.

This Novel is part of the vissions that Jules Verne had about the progressive tension that will appear between the Western Christian industrialized civilization and the Islamic and specially the Arabic world, this is a genuine prediction about the situation that the world will have at the end of the XX Century and in our epoch.

The Project of the construction of an inner sea in the Sahara is a simbol, in fact is the metaphor of the black sea of Oil that thanks to the Western technology has appeared during the last 60 years in the countries of the Islam.

The Sahara desert represents the approximate geographic position of the sea of oil that is in the underground, Lybia is one of the most important producers of Petroleum as well as Algeria & Tunisia. Notice that this also points to the Arab culture that is going to be the owner of these important resources.

The Cataclysm that occur at the end of the Novel has two simbolic meanings:

- By one side represents the reaction of the Nature against the consequent polution that this black sea of Petroleum will represent, this is a methafor of the warning effect by one side but also about the melting of the polar regions produced by that effect, a direct consequence of the great amounts of emision of dioxide of Carbon to the athmosphere of our epoch.

- By the other side is also a way to represent the powerful weapon that the Oil will be in the future, viewed from the time of Verne, to weak the economies of the industrialzed countries, that can produce the destruction of the stability of entire nations, like we are now affronting with the impact of the high prizes of oil.

The conclusion of the book in which the projected sea disappear as a consequence of the cataclysm, represents the loss of the importance that the Petroleum and the fossil fuels in general will experience with the creation of new technologies based on other type of energetics. The black sea ends when the Oil will no longer have the cost of today.

In my following posts I will be continue giving guidelines of a modern interpretation of the prophetic Novels of Jules Verne. I expect your comments about this to have an interesting discussion.

Thanks,

Your friend,

The Angel of lightness




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The secret to being a successful prophet is to make a whole lot of guesses, based on your imagination or recognizing current trends, and cloud them up a bit with vague language. If you by chance happen to get any right, be sure to let everybody know how successful you are. If you get any "wrong," downplay them, or tell people the events you foretold are still yet to come.

People want to believe.

Jules has always struck me as the William Gibson of the 19th century. He was a man that followed his imagination to fantastic places, and invented devices to transport him there.
I think it was more a case of being able to follow "The Shape of Things to Come", than any sort of prescience.

Short answer? he wasnt a prophet. he was however an intelligent man with an abiding interest in science and technology who had a very logical and rational thought process. Even so he got way to much wrong to be called a prohpet.
Take, from the earth to the moon. He did correctly identify that the equator was the optimal spot for a launch, and even surmised it would be launched from florida. He did not however, realise that a "ballistic craft" of the type he described would liquify any occupnats upon takeoff.
20,000 leagues under the sea? Nope again. Allthough he did state that the nautilua had a "new power source" he never described it or its principles, furthermore given that there was no power source at the time which could power such a ship, he had no choice but to create a new one out of "handwavium"
The fact is Jules Verne was no prophet, and in fact he would be quite offended if he were able to ehar you say such. Verne, unlike many on this board did NOT beleive in prophecy, or magic, or secret ancient knowledge. He beleived in science, reason, extrapolation, and logical rational studied thought upon the subjects he wrote about. And taht, IMO makes him far more than any "prophet" because all he used was his own disciplined mind and his vast knowledge of the world he lived in.

Originally posted by Nohup
The secret to being a successful prophet is to make a whole lot of guesses, based on your imagination or recognizing current trends, and cloud them up a bit with vague language. If you by chance happen to get any right, be sure to let everybody know how successful you are. If you get any "wrong," downplay them, or tell people the events you foretold are still yet to come.

People want to believe.

No, there is no 'secret' and no 'guessing' to the true prophet of The Most High as in the old testament. The 'secret' is they have a relationship with God the Father and by His will and choosing they are given 'insight' to what is going to happen to a people/nation because He loves them and wants them to return to him or to warn them of coming doom and comfort them in the hour of their plight.

There are pre-reqs for those who label themselves as prophets.

personally, I think there is some significance to this. It also seems to parallel to my other post here

S/F for ya The angel of light

The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

After the first reactions to my second post in the thread, in which I have disclosed a synthesis for the interpretation of one of the Novels of Jules Verne, that refers to facts that are occuring precisely in our epoch, I think it is necessary to clarify the following:

- I have good reasons to Claim that novels of Jules Verne are a series of predictions that were written in an altered state of conciusness for a person that had, besides an outstanding literary talent, the paranormal ability to travel with his subconcious mind to other epochs, that was able to view clearly what was going to happen.

- For the ones of you that don't like the possibility that this supports religion, I mean a prophetic experience, let me clarify that this is also a perfectly Scientific fact, it is entirely consistent with the theory of the collective unconscious stated by Carl Jung, one of the fathers of the Modern Psicology.

Pls check this for more information about it: skepdic.com...

- As a psychic but also as Mathematician & Engineer for me was not difficult to understand this fact and concile one thing with other. In fact I suspect to have discovered a possible key to understand the intrincrated cyphered language of symbols that Verne used to write his books and release the truth hidden on them.

- The starting point of the complex work to break this code, was to realize that it was not a cassuality that other more known Novels of this Author matched perfectly with facts that are already accomplished in the 1950's and 1960's, Please read my first post of the thread to see that correlation.

Why Verne decided to cypher in this way his Novels?

Well there are two possible important reasons:

1) Besides the Universal Archetypic language, any person has its own simbolic code to extract oniric images from its own unconcious to the conscient level, that is something that Jung discovered in his research on this subject, is the individual dialect of the simbolic Language of dreams. Verne had a very exquisite richness of those simbols thanks to his taste for the study of the classics.

2) For a man that was acused several times in his life to be member of the freemasonry, something that was never proved, and hence a candidate to be censured by the Catholic Church puting his entire literary work in the so called Index Librorum Prohibitorum, it was necessary if not a permanent worry to work in the most discrete way. So consciously or unconciously he encrypted many things for the common public.

Pls check this link to know what is the Index: en.wikipedia.org...

He didn't want to finish in the same situation of other famous novelists or writers of his country and epoch like Alexandre Dumas, father and son, Gustav Flaubert, Anatole France, Victor Hugo, Pierre Larousse, Jules Michelet, Ernest Renan censored by the incomprehension of the very influential Church herarchy.

Verne was an excelent French citizen, in other words a Latin man, and also a good practicant Catholic, therefore he didnt want to be object of intolerance or prosecution or the center of a polemic. Moreover, he was a man that was living half of his life sumerged in the Twight light zone so he didn't have time for scandals or to affront legal problems.

The best proof that supports the claim that this man was natural gifted with a very strange psychic skill is that he was an authodidact, he didnt study any Science or Engineering, he didnt study Philosophy & Letters, he started to write being so young and his only attempt to get a University Degree was in Laws but he decided to cut his career to be a Writer.

If you have enough patience to come here, in the following months I will be introducing all of you in the fascinating world of the Jules Verne's Code, I will open for you his window to the future.

Thanks for your atention,

The Angel of lightness




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The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

Here is the second novel of the list I proposed to check to verify some of the predictions given by the Author Jules Verne for the end of the XX century.

The Lighthouse at the End of the World (French: Le Phare du bout du monde) first published in 1905.

This is an adventure tale around a plot that involves piracy in the South Atlantic with a theme of survival in extreme circumstances, and events centering on an isolated lighthouse, a strategic island not very far from Argentinian mainland, in the waters close to the Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego.

Although not as well known as Verne's other novels, it is generally considered as good by Verne's fans and the literature critics. In 1971 the novel was adapted into a movie, The Light at the Edge of the World.

The novel describe a conflict between the authorities incharged of the custody and protection of the LightHouse and a band of pirates that have decided to attack it in order to control the transit on that part of the Sea.

One band are Argentinian sailors and the other British pirates, the island is a a very strategic position to assure the successful merchant navigation in the Austral waters.

Pay atention to the similarities with respect to the Falkland - Sandwish- South Georgias Islands war between Great Britain & Argentina started at the end of March of 1982:

- The two nationalities involved in both Conflicts are the same: Argentina, the country with the historical rights over the territory and that claimed that the ocupation of the Islands by Britain was illegal, the result of the piracy promoted by London in the south Atlantic a long centuries.

- The Name of the land in which it is located the lighthouse is Staten island in the Novel, that clearly suggests the political status of the place: Island territory that is claimed by two states.

- In the novel the name of the leading ship of the Argentinian forces is Santa Fe, in the actual war the operation of recapture of the Islands was leaded by the Argentinian submarine ARA Santa Fe (S-21)

- In the novel the pirate's main ship is named Carcante, notice the similarity with the word Carcanet that means a woman's ornamental circlet for the hair, often of gold decorated with jewels or pearls, a simbol of Royalty, but moreover an atribute of a Queen..

How Verne could know that it will be a Queen and not a King the one that must affront this conflict? .

- The leader of the Pirates side is named Kongre in the Novel, the Turkish word for Congress, that also suggests that this is a conflict in which the English Leading figure would come from a Congress. Indeed Mrs Margaret Thatcher, the British Prime Minister during the conflict, made her poltical career between 1950 to 1970 as member of the the Parlament.

- In the novel one American ship arrives to the Staten Island during the conflict, crash on the rocks and sink as a consequence of the absence of Light. This crash of the Americans on the rocks of the ocean has a very important simbolic meaning:

The Falkland islands war was one of the more difficult continental crisis for the American diplomacy that ever was registered in the XX Century, with incredible consequences: .

- Alexander Haig, the State Secretary was forced by the circumstances to do emergency trips to London and Buenos Aires in 72 hours trying to stop the conflict and in a disparate attempt to prevent a major conflict between two allies and the possibility throught the international alliances to be involved on it.

- The Organization of American States was the place of huge arguings & confrontation between the American diplomatics and the Argentinans thanks to the oppostion of Washington to vote in favor of the continental support to Argentina.

- This crisis marked the begining of the eclipse of the American sphere of influence in the continent, the begining of the LatinAmerican nationalisms that have droven the region to the current situation in which various countries remain completly apart of the US policy: Nicaragua, Venezuela, Equator, Bolivia, Cuba; and the negative of other very important nations to join to the ALCA as Argentina and Brasil.

- The State Secretary Alexander Haig, a heroe of the Pacific Ocean war, resigned to his job to show his disagree with the political support given by the Reagan administration to the United kingdom in the middle of his efforts for the Peace and the most energic protests from many Latinamerican goverments.

The American incident in the Verne's novel actually represented the shipwreck of this brilliant political career:

Army officer graduated of westpoint, with graduate studies at Columbia, in business, and Georgetown Universities, in Internatial relations; 1969–1972: Army Vice Chief of Staff; 1973–1974: White House Chief of Staff; 1974–1979: NATO Supreme Commander and finally Secretary of State( Jan 1981 to July 1982).

But Moreover his abrupt resignation represented in the History also the shipwreck of American diplomacy for LatinAmerica.

- United states actually gave to the British forces authorization to use the American naval base in Ascencion Island during the Conflict as a vital stage in their strategy to prepare their attack to Argentinian positions in the Falkland, Sandwich and south Georgias.

Are all just only mere casualities or the evidence of a mind that could reached the incoming facts through the literary fiction?

Thanks for your atention, your comments are welcome.

your friend,

The Angel of lightness




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The angel of light, I think you do Mr. Verne a disservice when you liberally offer up such things as Oil being a metaphorical sea, as being a predictivly accurate hit.

He does not need the offering of crutches and vagary’s. His actual vision is more than sufficient to qualify him as the greatest known visionary in history. Mr. Verne deserves a more critical less fawning treatment. His work will not come off any less impressive for having done so, but pale posers to the crown offered the same respect would.

I do wonder if he had the good fortune to time travel, or to meet a time traveler. Since he wrote of such things, it only sweetens the potential of that line of reasoning.

While some of his understanding of future science was shallow and unscientific by today’s standards, I think they are consistent with what a traveler from his day into the future might come away with, He describes without understanding.

Lets not forget the descriptions which we can today associate with cross species gene manipulation in The Island of Doctor Moreau.

Had he claimed to have been given a glimpse of the future, he would have been ridiculed in his own day, where science and reason were all the rage.

If I were a time traveler, I believe that he would be the number one stop on my itinerary.


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" I believe cats to be spirits come to earth. A cat, I am sure, could walk on a cloud without coming through.” Jules Verne

Hi Cyberbian,

Of course your opinion is respectable but to be sincere I don't share it.

Let me say that I found your critic to my point of view as strongly conditioned for three factors:

- A possible ignorance that you look to have toward the paranormal phenomenon of the subconcious mind?
- For a appearently lack of knowledge about certain aspects of the Verne's personality, as his way to compose books using his inspiration as a principal tool?
- Lack of interest or respect concerning the existence of the Parapsicology as a Science?.

But if I am wrong would you please show me the University in which he learnt to write novels, to believe that this man, that started to publish science fiction when he was only an adolescent, was product of the conventional academic formation and discipline?

What were his academic credentials and degrees please?

He started to write completly alone years before he could meet other authors and exchange some experience with them & it is very well known that he abandoned so soon his College studies, not in Science or Engineering but in Laws, to dedicate all his time to his more loved passion: to tell stories of fiction.

There are thousands of authors around the world with very impressive academic credentials, even with Doctoral degrees, that have not achieved in a whole professional life 20% of the fame and aknowledge that Verne reached before he was 30 years old.

Let me compare Verne with two extraordinary talented Science fiction writers of the XX century just to allow you to understand my point:

Arthur C. Clarke that is considered the most outstanding Science Fiction British author of the XX century, he was also communications technician of the British army and inventor, published his first fiction paper when he was 28, to be the first person that proposed the idea of the artificial Satelite communication, and his first famous book when he was 34 years old: The Exploration of Space (1951)

The American, Russian born, Isaac Asimov that is one of the of the most prolific writers of all time, having written or edited more than 500 books, the major part of Science Fiction, among many other papers, although started to write relatively young, he was 19 years old, he could get fame and aknowledge only when after his 40. He was Phd in Biochemestry at his 28.

I am open to discuss and check any evidence that somebody wants to bring here to prove the contrary of my thesis.

thanks for your atention,


Your friend,

The Angel of Lightness

“How much further can we go? What are the final frontiers in this quest for travel? Will humankind only be satisfied when journeys into space become readily available and affordable? ” Jules Verne

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I do feel regret if you think I was attacking your point of view. That certainly was not my intent.

I think your work quite respectable and remarkably diligent. If this is not preparation for a book it should be. But I would not give him an inch more credit than can be proven.

The analysis of names is great scholarly effort and a delightful read. But it's intent is not a proof, unless you have authors notes explicit to the point. Give credit to the reader to determine what is prophetic and what is coincidence.

I urge you; do not credit the man with every potential conicidence. It is unneeded, and uncalled for. In this one unique man's case it is a diminishment of that which cannot be denied. To follow the format of books on lesser mens works where there would be no substance unless you credit every potential, is to be conventional in the face of the exceptional.

I do not ask you to change your method or your analysis, only to adjust the style, out of respet and deference to his greatness.

As for my perspective, I am a skeptic. A follower of scientific method to the best of may ability and a mystic.

I have had numerous mystical experiences in my life, a good number of which I have never heard described or related outside my own experience. Some which I have discerned in the works of others are shared, yet not documented explicitly in the common.

Since Jules Verne wrote about time travel, I am more inclined to accept that plot device as his method than prophecy. Why, because there has never been a prophet his equal.

I will share this with you, when I was a child, I regularly dreamed of events six months in advance. Nothing important, little things, like a moment where I slipped in the snow at a certain spot, and the vivid experience of the moment. Just a few unimportant seconds. As if to say it is possible.

My mother was a member of the American Parapsychological Institute, and as a child with numerous personal mystical experiences, and an intense interest in scientific method, I was able to discern more than enough charlitans for one lifetime.

By the age of 12 I had visited the Temple Perilous, and was returned for my personal safety. You should wonder that I even know of the name given your assessment of me this far. You would have hell to pay to find a genuine reference to it on the internet.

The thing I am most interested in is your assertion that Verne used code in his writing, and you have interpreted it. I have not combed your writing yet, researching as I go through it. So I will not waste your time with badly thought out questions. But I promise to buy your book if you only fulfill half the promise and show the existence of the code.

I would add that Assimov and Clarke differ from Verne in that they were well integrated into the highest levels of the scientific community, and built on their exposure to works in progress, and the dreams of giants, which they were privledged to have advanced exposure to.

I have never heard of Verne having a similar experience, and I believe his subjects were so far in advance of his age as to preclude this possability.

Hi Cyberbian,

Yes you are quite right about the enormous difference existing between the methods and sources of Clarke and Asimov with respect to Verne, that is mystery that has defy his biographers for more than a century.

The most that somebody can say about contact with academic science in Verne's life is something yet not completely confirmed but a possible brief experience as a pupil, in high school level, when he met the French inventor Brutus de Villeroi, that it looks gave some classes of drawing and mathematics at Saint Donatien in 1842.

There is no evidence that he maintain any close contact with him later. Verne moved soon to Paris and never return to that coast while de Villeroi remained living in Nantes the rest of his life, moreover there is no evidence that he was actually a teacher of that school, everything suggests that he was there just invited to give some lectures for a so short period of time.

But let me point to the most crucial aspect of Verne's production:

Assume that he could get Scientific or technological information through a tremendous personal effort of research, that at his time was several ways more difficult than the time of Clarke or Asimov ( there was no equivalent information resource then to the Computers or the internet of our days).

How a profane person not familiar with the technical language of Engineering or Science, (take in account that his educative level in those fields was no higher than the any scolar of High school), could use it in the so efficient way to predict future changes or improvements in technology?

Thanks Ciberbian to explain a little more your position, and also to allow me to complete the explanation of this that I think is a good hypothesis, that deserves the right to be explored deeply and ,of course, to be open for the discussion.

Well, in the so difficult task to try to understand the mental processes of one of the most outstandings creative intelligences of the History, I sincerely think to be found enough evidence, that suggest the possibility that Verne's subconscious mind was able to touch, in each of his literary works, important portions of the collective unconcious.

My task is precisely during the following posts to try to prove this hypothesis in the best possible way, this is a so complex challange, but as I told previously there are interesting tracks to follow in favor of its validity.

The strongest resources to show this, are precisely :

1) The absence of formal professional technological or Scientific education or any kind of Technical experience in the area

and

2) The lack of formal professional writing training. This is also relevant since his books are not only master works from the Scientific point of view, for his time, but from the literary too.

Without the presence of these 2 factors in his career, it is really difficult, if not impossible, to find the way to give a more conventional explanation of his genious, that was by far not only the best science fiction creative profile of the History until present but the work of an entire Authodidact.

Thanks for your participation in the thread,

your friend,

The Angel of Lightness




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I suggest this; it is not possible for Verne or anyone of his generation to predict the technological advances he explored. Not with a strong background, and not without.

His writings show no great depth of understanding of technology. So I feel safe in excluding the Autodidact line of reasoning. It is one thing to marvel and imagine and another to construct.
He wrote of technology as one mystified by it. It is that great awe which passes on to the reader.

So what are the remaining paths which could explain? Please feel free to add to the list if you have alternatives.

1, Dumb luck coincidence.
I haven't run any statistical analysis, but I venture to say the odds against this approach the infinite.

2, Inexplicable prescience.
This is what we default to today, when not accepting the potential of another possibility.

3, Prophecy.

4, Personal Time Travel.

5, Meeting a Time traveler.

6, He was not the least bit predictive. Others engineered the world around his popular and completely fanciful imagination.

If you choose any one of these above the others, you must justify that, or offend that portion of your audience which leans toward any of the others.

This code you spoke of: Is it a mere translation of the books, or is there more content?


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Jules Verne was born to family of a seafaring and legal beackground in Nantes in 1828, where he was also educated. He studied to become a lawyer in Paris between 1847 and 1849 and married Honorine de Vione in 1857 before setting off on various trips to England, Scotland and New York.

I have not found the name of the law school, but he did attend University.

His father stopped financing his education when he found he was writing rather than studying law. He became a stock broker.
I assume from this that he did not complete his education in law.

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The Code is the set of beautiful but also meaningful Literary methaphores that the Subconcious mind of Jules Verne used to refer to incoming facts in any future epoch, of course, viewed from his time, according with the mentality of that space-time specific situation.

Jules Verne repeated in many of his writings that he wanted to be a free traveler to any possible part of the world, even the outer space, but the most important part of that asertion is that he actually combined space trips with time trips, that is in some sense probably his more interesting prediction: He anticipated the concept of Space-time, more than 5O years earlier, revealed by Albert Einstein only until the begining of the XX Century!!.

This code is basically like the dreams dictionaries constructed by Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung each one by his own psicology school, but with a very specific new acceptions that are valid just for Jules Verne writtings. This code when it be already decyphered and undestood will be like the Rosetta stone of our time.

When this code be completly revealed, as it is my purpose to do, the entire literary work of Jules Verne could be reinterpreted from the Esoteric points of View, we will be able to see clearly the things that are not already accomplished that he actually viewed with his so creative but also dynamic mind.

According with my assumptions Jules Verne could literally travel to other epochs and places in a kind of astral trip, it could be when he was sleeping while his inner mind was thinking in ideas for his novels. In this way it was something very similar than the case of Edgar Cayce, the so called dreaming Prophet.

Thanks for your atention,

your friend,

The Angel of lightness



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Most excellent! This code you are unraveling, It sounds like the work of many liftetimes. Have you completed a books interpretation yet? How long have you been at it?

Is what you have already presented what you are referring to, or can you please share an example. Can you exemplify what you mean, I wish to understand as a process how you apply this decoding? What a merry adventure!

You must immediately read the The book by Jack London, The Star Rover.
You can get it free as an E book. I believe that it was banned in his time.
Much like you have suggested that Verne feared happening.
It is the only book my Father ever suggested to me. He read it as a boy.

The subject is the travels of one man who astral projects through his many reincarnations. As I referred to in my reference to Temple Perilous, I have some experience in this area. I now see that I was meant to provide this information to you. You know it comes to you when you require it.

At one point I had to do a library search to get a copy, many years ago. Only two librarys in the U.S had a copy. The subject was Taboo back then. I promise it will be a revelation. At one point I photocopied it to make sure that it would not disappear from the face of the earth, as the pages were falling apart.

www.gutenberg.org...
The Jacket (Star-Rover) by Jack London - Project Gutenberg

It is good to know I have completed this task successfully.
It is good to be free of carrying this obligation.


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Hi Cyberbian,

Yes you are so smart, there is a book that practically is already written, there are only some last details that I am still reviewing. But as I told in the begining, when I open the thread, my readers here must take patience to wait me to know more about this.

I fact I am receiving a lot of propositions from publishing houses that are interested in the first edition, as well as the first edition of other book about my personal predictions.

Since I am also psychic, and a proven one, in predictions of natural events and economical and political forecasts, I am sure this will be a nice business for any of those editors and not only for me.

I suggest you to chk my profile specially in BTS to know about my record of accomplished predictions, there are many just only in the last year of 2007. ( you can see it at: www.abovetopsecret.com...)

About the process to disclose the Code to understand the predictions of Verne in his Novels that is a very very long story, this is a project that have long time running in my mind, but just to satisfy your curiousity I can say that is basically a task of good observation to find common patterns, as I am mathematician it was challanging but not impossible for me.

Thanks for your atention,

your friend,

The Angel of Lightness


[edit on 7/9/2008 by The angel of light]

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I look forward to reading your books!

I do hope that when you publish, you not only share the analysis but the method. I would link up with a very good and skeptical statistician if I were you. A probability analysis would not only keep you honest, it would provide the most astounding proof of Verne's uniqueness, and your analysis of it.