Animated Child Pornography - Allow It Or Ban It?

When you look at it you see that the people casting these girls mostly want them to be very young (but just above the legal age) Why do you think? because dirty old people want to see young people have sex. Maybe its instinct I don't know.

And even with animated porn they will draw the girls as young as possible (not always) why? because they want them to look like adolecent children. But never have I seen animated porn of small children, it doesn't exist.

And even if it would, wouldn't it be a kind of good think? I mean these pedophiles can get there freak on with these animated movies because it doesn't hurt little kids and maybe just maybe they will become less dangerous if there needs are met.

It's a complicated issue, because we have no idea how pedophiles "evolved" or what is driving them.

survey shows significant rape crimes drops in a regions where pornography is easier to access.
so I believe it's the same as always, you have to choose witch one evil is less evil.
paedophiles will get born as usually until science will come up with some technologies that could fix people of that kind. until that it should be enough just to ban paedophiles freedom to express their "culture" in any way. and keep all children away for any evil intention as much as possible, but in the mean time you have to give them something to do behind closed doors. I don't think that animated or computer generated child pornography should be banned.
because paedophiles are people too. they can be productive to the society, they can be scientists, engineers. and Rome demands productive people.
protect the children, not your own philosophy of life.
I suggest to look for constructive solutions. war never settles anything.

reply to post by OrangeAlarmClock


No offense, but media shouldn't be banned simply for the reason that some people are stone cold f-ing idiots. I'm sure she's learned from her mistakes by this time

It's an indicator of a much larger problem if people act like this. Banning things only makes it worse. Frankly, if porn was eliminated tomorrow, people would explore like they did prior to pornography.. and that's experimenting with other people often against that person's request.

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Whatever fires together wires together.

Animated child porn would only strengthen the brain map association between sexual gratification and a sexual preference for children.

This can only be bad.

Young teens read sexually explicit "child porn" all the time. Japanese manga(comics) have two sub genres where child sex is the main point of the comic. It's termed Lolicon(for young girls) and shotacon(for young boys). The most surprising thing though is that shotacon is widely read by alot of 13-16 year old girls. Most of the storys revolve around coming of age and learning about sex from a more experienced partner that they have a crush on. Or the sex with teacher fantasy,ect.

It's just sexual fantasy, and no real people are harmed.

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Your kids may be reading this stuff already and you don't even know.

Originally posted by troubleshooter
Whatever fires together wires together.

Animated child porn would only strengthen the brain map association between sexual gratification and a sexual preference for children.

This can only be bad.

This statement is false because many people have violent thoughts and yet are not violent, many people use porn that has violent subject matter and they themselves may be mild mannered people. It is really not as simple as you make out i'm afraid.

If it were then fans of war games (like me) would be going out and killing everyone we could, you don't see that however. Oh the occasional nut job does but they are the rarity, and we're talking 1 in literally a million. They have something very wrong with their brain beforehand.

That's not to say paedophiles don't have something wrong. However many paedophiles don't act upon their compulsions, they may have the thoughts and keep control. This pornography could be an outlet without the harm of a child occuring.

Further it should be noted that epidemeological evidence suggests that countries with increased porn levels also have lower incidences of rape. I bring this up only to show you that this pronography could actually help to reduce the rate of real abuse because there would be a smaller market for images of real abuse.

Finally you seem to suggest that this could cause people without sexual feelings towards children to develop them because of the brain rewiring itself. This is a very ignorant comment, it's like saying someone who is straight can train themselves to be gay.

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
Young teens read sexually explicit "child porn" all the time. Japanese manga(comics) have two sub genres where child sex is the main point of the comic. It's termed Lolicon(for young girls) and shotacon(for young boys). The most surprising thing though is that shotacon is widely read by alot of 13-16 year old girls. Most of the storys revolve around coming of age and learning about sex from a more experienced partner that they have a crush on. Or the sex with teacher fantasy,ect.

It's just sexual fantasy, and no real people are harmed.

This has already been brought up in the thread. I know it's a long read but yeah it's already been mentioned. As far as i'm conerned it's pretty damn sick but as no child is harmed then i have to say it's protected under freedom of expression.

As someone who watches a lot of japanese anime like naruto, bleach, d-greyman etc i have seen that the japanese do like to draw girls with very young characteristics.

It's a little worrying.

Oh please, its a sexual perversion. They will draw the garbage themselves if not accessible through the internet. Seriously, pedo's, just like heterosexuals, will go to great lengths to view their smut.

How many men and women look at pornography? Now, how many go out and rape someone? Not the same number is it? Law enforcement and law makers will do no justice arresting "thought criminals" and will dig us deeper into 84'. They should focus on protecting real children with harsh sentences for both photographing and abuse.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that Japan with all its Lolicon and junk really doesn't have more of a problem with child molesters than the U.S...they do have a big groping problem though...mabey all that tentacle rape lol!

Hello fellow members,

In my humble opinion, when an adult is attracted to children, there is something very wrong with sayed adult.

Child pornography should be banned in all forms, be it photographs, movies or paintings/drawings.

People that are attracted to children are mentally ill and should be examined by a psychiatrist, and those who practise those repulsive things should be brought to harsh justice.

There is no biological reason for being a paedophile, since their interest is in infants that are not fully grown and/or ready to breed, which is a basic value needed for one organism to have sexual interaction with another.

These mental wrongs should not be fed/encouraged, but treated by professionals, and never should they be accepted in any form.

It is against all biological, human, or biblical law.

stay sharp

You may generate a computer holocaust and exaggerate it waay, don't you. Its supposed to be free. You should allow computer generated child porn, rape, donkey-humping, anything. Censoring is not acceptable.

Child porn is a different animal altogether, it is a strictly illegal thing to do. But creating something depicting illegal activity should be nonrestricted.

this should be illegal.
i mean lets be honest about online deviant behavior. many games are allowing sexual harassment to take place online including sexual assault.

All of these things should be made illegal, its high time we stop people from engaging in activities that seek to harm humanity as a whole.

Australia is the only country so far bold enough to ban all violent video games to make their country a better place and the people their happier.

Not only do we need to ban this form of porn but all forms of deviant behavior and violence needs to be banned to protect the public for the greater good. Its about time we start telling society right from wrong, because without any guidance there will be anarchy as can be seen in games like grand theft auto, or the matrix games both of which advocate the killing of police officers, who are the true heros.

Start the revolution at home for freedom by ending these practices and stopping all forms of digital media that encourage anti social behavior. Also all rap and music should be forced to meet specific guidelines and criteria for public release. This isnt a dictatorship kind of thing its something that will be a mandate from the people. And the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! For I am the people and we are legion!

Originally posted by above
Child porn is a different animal altogether, it is a strictly illegal thing to do. But creating something depicting illegal activity should be nonrestricted.

Am I to understand that while sending a person a death threat is considered illegal, and punishable by law (at least in my country -Holland-)
While sending that same person a picture of me killing him should be considered legal?

Is it not basically the same thing?

A picture of an actual child performing an act of sex is of course many times more horrible than a drawing of a child performing acts of sex, but the message it sends remains the same.

This cannot be allowed.

stay sharp

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Mmmmm, I love that game. We're all winners in that game.

Originally posted by tigpoppa
this should be illegal.
i mean lets be honest about online deviant behavior. many games are allowing sexual harassment to take place online including sexual assault.

All of these things should be made illegal, its high time we stop people from engaging in activities that seek to harm humanity as a whole.

Australia is the only country so far bold enough to ban all violent video games to make their country a better place and the people their happier.

Not only do we need to ban this form of porn but all forms of deviant behavior and violence needs to be banned to protect the public for the greater good. Its about time we start telling society right from wrong, because without any guidance there will be anarchy as can be seen in games like grand theft auto, or the matrix games both of which advocate the killing of police officers, who are the true heros.

Start the revolution at home for freedom by ending these practices and stopping all forms of digital media that encourage anti social behavior. Also all rap and music should be forced to meet specific guidelines and criteria for public release. This isnt a dictatorship kind of thing its something that will be a mandate from the people. And the PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! For I am the people and we are legion!

For freedom? I don'ty know what to say lol.

Originally posted by drraven


A picture of an actual child performing an act of sex is of course many times more horrible than a drawing of a child performing acts of sex, but the message it sends remains the same.

This cannot be allowed.

stay sharp

When you wrote this message, did you not have to imagine the idea of child performing acts of sex, to actually come up with the sentence.

So by your logic, would you not also be guilty of this crime. Since drawing a picture is almost the same as reading text. They both give you and image in your mind.

So are we really read for mind crime? Have you never had violent thoughts? Have you never fantasise about lets say your boss or wifes friend. Does thinking about these thought make it come to reality? Would you like to live in a world where you can be arrested for these thoughts?

My problem here is the failed logic that people have on this subject.

Peace.

[edit on 18-3-2010 by _Phoenix_]

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I am afraid you took my last post a bit out of context, what people make mental pictures of, nobody can know, and this can only be judged by their own consciousness.

It is the material pictures than can, and should be banned.

stay sharp

Originally posted by drraven
reply to post by _Phoenix_

 

I am afraid you took my last post a bit out of context, what people make mental pictures of, nobody can know, and this can only be judged by their own consciousness.

It is the material pictures than can, and should be banned.

stay sharp

Hmm yeah. I just feel it's wrong. Since it's just pictures.. So it seems illogical to me.
It reminds me of that demolition man movie, in the future when someone swears, even in their own home, they get a fine lol. I don't like the idea of a future with no freedom.

We like to sacrifice freedom for safety it seems.

I also hate the idea of banning violent movies and games. Because I truly hate the fact that a goverment that we the people help create. Is now gonna tell us that we are not capable of watching a violent movie. That we cannot control our own lives. That we don't deserve freedom. It's like the biggest insult.

I know myself more than them.

When you create a society were you can get fined or arrested where no true crime has happened or nobody has been harmed in any form, then something is truly wrong.

Edit: sorry the parts about banning movies and games was more towards tigpoppa. Sorry for the confusion.

Peace.




[edit on 18-3-2010 by _Phoenix_]

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I respect your sense for freedom, and i for the most part agree, but...

The final product of the world you are talking about would be complete anarchy, something that nobody should want, and those who say they want it have never whitnessed it.

Also, I am supportive to a complete ban of everything that involves child porn, there should be no freedom in that, I do not desire freedom for anybody on that subject.

stay sharp

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You cannot on one hand say you support freedom and then on the other hand talk about banning images that hurt no one and may very well reduce the abuse rate of real children simply becuase you dislike the idea of them. That is just plainly hypocritical. You talk of anarchy but i think pheonix shares my view of "you can do whatever you like, anything at all as long as you don't hurt anyone".

Please correct me if i'm wrong on that one pheonix.

It's rather sad to see people unable to put aside emotion and dael with this logically. Check back in the thread where i link figures which give serious epidemiological evidence that these images being available reduces the number of real children being abused.

It's similar to how the introduction of normal pornography (whatever that is) reduces the rape rate.

Well, if the slogan is, do whatever you like as long as you dont hurt anybody...

These pictures hurt me it hurts me to know they are around, and it hurts me to know there is people that look at them and are supportive of them.

It is my strong belief that people cannot live in total freedom, we are not capable of making the right decisions without a proper law.

stay sharp