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Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
I did notice Paul stating in this thread that the greys came into his house and were using laser beams on everyone but they managed to avoid being captured, well that has never happened before and I don't think it's possible. Abductions just don't happen that way. I just find that story hard to believe, it's possible he saw the greys outside of his home or in his area but they most likely were not coming for him or he would have been taken.
You misread what I stated.
Late at night in the winter, an intense white floodlight paralysis beam from our backyard (completely silently), entered our second story bathroom window and also illuminated the adjoining master bedroom. However, the beams were avoided, no paralysis or unconsciousness occurred, and no one entered our house.
If you can avoid the paralysis beams, they will not enter your vehicle or home because they do not want you to put up a fight
You should teach that in your counseling sessions.
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
In your case if they suddenly stopped they probably had no more reasons to take you, I'm guessing you had implants of some kind. Did you ever get those located and/or removed? I had implants taken out myself about 19yrs ago along with my 2 brothers. The hardest part is locating them and it's possible until now we still have other implants that were never found.
I have managed to elude capture because the little guys have not been able to hit me straight on with a paralysis beam...yet.
However, through a crack in my bedroom shade and for a split second, I did have a beam ricochet off of a large mirror into my face. It was the brightest light I had ever seen, even with my eyes closed.
I woke up and was slightly dazed, but not paralyzed or knocked out.
No post-traumatic stress disorder, no implants, no missing time, and no surgical scars or radiation-related illness.
[edit on 16-7-2008 by Paul_Richard]
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Finding someone, entering their home and altering their memory in less than a minute is believable for me and other abductees and avid researchers who know the capability of the greys but for someone like Paul he has already said this is not possible...
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
You also mentioned in your thread they communicate by telepathy which is correct along with many other things you mentioned but Paul dis-agrees and claims they do not have that capability?
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Ok your delusional now or are making this up for fun, this is not the way the greys work or even attempt to abduct people.
I have studied this for over 26years now it's my daily job and been my life, I will tell you from my own experiences that I have personally been taken more times than I could ever count by the greys in my younger years so can say I'm 100% sure about this.
LOL
VERY FUNNY THOUGH...HA..
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Nothing short of a large-scale and highly effective Rebellion will stop them from their continued subjugation and harvesting of the people here. In which case we will face -- as did the Atalans/Atlanteans -- their antimatter weapons that caused not only Atlantis/Atala to fall, but global earthquakes, The Great Flood (documented in various ancient cultures), and the tilting of the world on its axis, all of which occurred approximately 13 thousand years ago.
I think facets of the US and various other governmental agencies know this fact. It is one of those BIG SECRETS that they don't want the general populace to learn about -- much less believe.
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
For once I have nothing to dis-agree with you about other than add that the governments (NOT ALL) mainly Russia and the US are aware of why the greys are here. The greys are not the only ET's around and believe me the greys could never get away with hi-jacking this planet and they know it. There is no fear about the greys taking over this planet or they would have done it thousands of years ago, when it comes to the greys the only thing anyone needs to fear is a possible abduction.
I look at this situation slightly differently than you do.
I agree that facets of the Russian and American governments are very aware of the Greys, as well as other federal agencies around the world -- like in the UK, Israel, and Communist China.
However, the Greys, both the short and tall variety, serve their Reptilian and Preying Mantis masters. They are not an independent force but serve The Reticulan Empire.
As far as taking over the planet in the official sense, that is likely to be done by the Hybrids, as they are better acclimated to this environment and more formidable physically then the Greys.
The earliest depictions of aliens on this planet are not Greys but Reptilians
First came the Reptilians to this planet, the Anunnaki. I am not sure when the Praying Mantises came into the picture but the Grey races appear to be a genetic blend between the two other species, and came about after the Anunnaki started colonizing here, hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Overall, there are other various much more advanced groups than the greys here and among us watching over the planet. They have a different agenda at hand and they will not allow an invasion or take over from any extraterrestrial race to ever happen.
(They won't allow it and they have the power to stop it.)
I have to disagree with you on this point, as I have seen no evidence of a benign space race that is protecting this world from the Reticulans. The space race empire that has annexed this planet wishes to keep this farm healthy and productive for as long as possible. In that regard then, yes, it is protected from major disruptive events like asteroid collisions. On the other hand, non-allied explorers from outside the empire are also prevented from landing here.
In contrast to the Service To Self (STS) Reticulans, are there benign, Service To Others (STS) humanoid aliens out there somewhere?
Absolutely.
But they will not be found in interstellar spacecraft.
Instead, they will be found in systems that still embrace medieval technology. Whereby the culture has not been perverted through the tunnel vision of technology -- as with the Reticulans and many Terrans - to value Science as God.
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
If we as humans destroyed each other through wars that is our own doing and they won't stop us and some have warned us and even tried to help us in various ways without interacting directly.
Abductees who have communicated with their captors have relayed the awareness as to why the aliens are interested: this planet is abundant in raw genetic material. The Reticulans do not want us to develop nuclear weapons.
They do not want their big farm damaged.
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
They won't allow a full scale nuclear war to ever happen.
They couldn't stop the atomic bombs from being dropped on Japan in 1945. But there was a large UFO flap over applicable US military installations right after that happened, confirming their awareness and concern.
However, and this is important: there was a full-scale nuclear war with the Reticulans about 13 thousand years ago
In ancient India, during the Rama Empire, it was documented that Atlantis (Atala) had weapons that could level an entire city. Atala/Atlantis was considered to be the most formidable nation at that time on the planet.
Atala/Atlantis attempted their own "War of Independence" against the Anunnaki -- and lost. The Reticulans retaliated with a nuclear barrage of antimatter missiles that devastated this planet, ending Atlantis, causing global earthquakes, the tilting of the planetary axis, and The Great Flood.
The Reticulans do not want another "Atlantis" to emerge to damage their big farm
I have various references about Atala and ancient atomic wars. Just go to my signature and click on Great Reference Links.
[edit on 16-7-2008 by Paul_Richard]
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Ok your delusional now or are making this up for fun, this is not the way the greys work or even attempt to abduct people.
I have studied this for over 26years now it's my daily job and been my life, I will tell you from my own experiences that I have personally been taken more times than I could ever count by the greys in my younger years so can say I'm 100% sure about this.
LOL
VERY FUNNY THOUGH...HA..
Why is it that the ignorant and prejudiced always laugh first?
Maybe it's some kind of defense mechanism to hide their inadequacy.
I've been studying this area of life for over 30 years and everything I stated was absolutely correct and totally honest.
I was also polite about it.
But you went from participating in a civil discussion to mudslinging because I don't agree with your questionable conclusions.
This paints you as either being a brainwashed abductee, a disinformation agent (in the guise of an abductee counselor -- I've dealt with these before) or simply someone who is so wrapped up in EGO so as to not be open to LEARNING.
Perhaps a combination of the above.
Either way, you are back on my ignore list.
And...I will continue to keep posting and offer illumination anyway.
Guaranteed.
Originally posted by Drakiir
You have to remember I dont even know how I got into their ship but I do know that I did not resist as most people would and i did see a beam which explains the paralysis beam. Many things Paul has helped me understand and they do make allot of sense so to me I do believe it because I don't see any other explanation.
Just to tweak your perspective a bit here.
A victim who thinks his captors have godlike abilities (e.g., that they can read minds or communicate telepathically, teleport, walk through walls, etc.), is less likely to fight them or attempt to escape.
The screen memories then, in addition to temporarily erasing one's memory of the event, are also geared toward psychological manipulation with the purpose of submission to their subjugation
Just to tweak your perspective a little bit here.
Most people do not resist their kidnapping, simply because they are either paralyzed or unconscious when it happens. They are then given drugs for further sedation and also implanted screen memories to make them think their captors have godlike abilities.
A victim who thinks his captors have godlike abilities (e.g., that they can read minds or communicate telepathically, teleport, walk through walls, etc.), is less likely to fight them or attempt to escape.
The screen memories then, in addition to temporarily erasing one's memory of the event, are also geared toward psychological manipulation with the purpose of submission to their subjugation
How could the greys get away with their operation for so long if this is the way they worked, breaking into people's homes with ONLY a laser beam gun. Don't you think many people would have shot 1 dead by now and had a body to display for the public if the laser beam was the only weapon and method of abduction?
Originally posted by psycho81
reply to post by Malevolent_Aliens
How could the greys get away with their operation for so long if this is the way they worked, breaking into people's homes with ONLY a laser beam gun. Don't you think many people would have shot 1 dead by now and had a body to display for the public if the laser beam was the only weapon and method of abduction?
LOL I can just see the police line up in the local cop shop, "Now point out the one that was trying to pick your lock"
Originally posted by Tomorrow
If they are intelligent enough to even get here, why would they eat us? We are not organic. We are contaminated with drugs, pollution, plastics and all kinds of junk. Why would they drive all this way to eat junk food when apparently they are of superior intelligence?
Just a random thought.