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Originally posted by interestedalways
I think it happens very often that people who have possible "talents" or think "different" than others are overmedicated and locked away.
I don't know if psychics are treated this way, but it could happen.
Remote viewers seem to be of special interest to military operations, I hear, especially in Russia.
Originally posted by wylee
All I can say. If a person is born "talented" in a family, and that family is not open to such tealents, then there is no field for those talents to grow throughout a person's life.
Originally posted by wylee
It gets shoved into the subconscious and it takes a whole lot of emotional work to integrate thos talents back into the conscious self.
OR the are really powerful or spirit has plans for ya, the talents take over a part of the mind, creating a shadow persona.
Originally posted by wylee
It is my belief the talented people have break in consciousness, ie the talents surfacing, if they don't have support through friends or family or a very powerful core of faith in themselves and the universe, they go crazy.
Originally posted by wylee
You end up creating your own "universe." Some people never come back. Some by choice, some because ocne they were labeled whatever, bi-polar or schizo, that became their core belief.
Originally posted by wylee
Others, those that are medicated as Interested Always said, were never given the chance to mind a balance within themselves, because their brain chemistry has been permanetly changed due to the pharmacueticals.
Originally posted by wylee
The people who make it through this rite of passage find an inner independence few could understand and a connection to all that is that goes to the core of one's being.
Originally posted by wylee
It's been my experience, the real hard core psychics keep it to themselves. Who knows what they're up to?
Originally posted by andy1033
The governments use people they find that are like that, and always will.
Originally posted by andy1033
If you believe they exist thats upto you, but you cannot explain some very weird goings on, lol.
Originally posted by andy1033
The people at the top of society are in fact psychic otherwise they would not be there, especially if they have made a billion dollar business or something. This is why they get into there secret societies etc....
Amazon Review :
"Kalush and Sloman appear to have raked through every known Houdini archive to produce the most comprehensive and controversial biography ever written about the man, with its contention that he was a spy who may have been murdered by a cult."
SKL's Amazon Review :
Harry Houdini : The Man, The Myth, The Spy, The Secret Service Agent A lot of people love reading about Harry Houdini the magician, the Handcuff King the escape artist but did you know that he was a spy & a Secret Service agent?
I can prove it with one book & a few well versed words here.
The book I am talking about is one I am just over half way through & it is entitled "The Secret Life of Houdini : The Making of a Superhero."
This book is awesome & I encourage everyone to read it and enjoy the story of Harry Houdini from beginning to end. It tells about the man, the myth, the spy, the Secret Service agent who was a performer who made the world love him & his shows & continually conquered his every demon, including his own self loathing while continually re-creating himself for the world at large.
Yes this book still fits into this world of the wide web that is the internet. The book is all about how all of Harry Houdini's having been a major instigator in World War I in the propaganda & success of America while Harry Houdini, or some may know him better as Ehrich Weiss, a Jewish man who changed his identity to fit better into the world and to better sell himself to the world as an entertainer at large for War World I in the rise of Germany the first time it came to power.
The fact that the book is from archival data and letters both from & to Harry Houdini is what makes this book so intriguing. Please feel free to enjoy the book & I would love to hear anyone else's opinion & thoughts on this subject. A lot of people do not know that the Secret Service was a spy agency at one time and was connected to the spy world like the C.I.A., N.S.A., D.I.A. & the rest of the alphabet Intelligent Agencies.
Harry Houdini taught our American Dough Boys how to escape from handcuffs, being tied in ropes, & how to escape from torpedoed ships by being on stage in an ampitheater & having actually being a teacher of the American military.
Amazon Review :
This new edition of the definitive history of the Secret Service lays bare the 2004 Bush campaign’s political uses of the agency and the new challenges it faces as a branch of the Homeland Security Department, in a post-9/11 world.
Acclaimed scholar of political violence and governmental secrecy Philip Melanson explores the long-hidden workings of the Secret Service since its inception in 1865 and through rigorous research and extensive interviews with former White House staffers and retired agents, uncovers startling facts about the Agency’s role in such traumatic national events as the assassination of JFK and the shooting of President Reagan.
Included, too, are revelations about presidential demands on the agency; the problems of alcoholism, divorce, and burnout among agents; and the Service’s inexplicable failure to develop profiles of potential assassins.
Up-to-date and explosive, this book assails the public image of the Secret Service as a highly professional apolitical organization, exposing the often-detrimental influence that politics exerts on the Agency.
Originally posted by andy1033
But your right about people being persecuted, for no reason at all, other than they are being who they are and not doing anything to anyone.
Originally posted by andy1033
But be careful what you wish for, is something we all should be careful of.
[edit on 12/7/2009 by andy1033]
Originally posted by wylee
Thank you King Leonidas. I'm going to go back and fix my typo's. I appreciate you seeing past that.
Originally posted by wylee
The Shadow is just the aspects of oneself that have not been brought to the light of the concious mind. I think it is an aspect first brought up in Jungian psychology. From wiki.
"In Jungian psychology, the shadow or "shadow aspect" is a part of the unconscious mind consisting of repressed weaknesses, shortcomings, and instincts. It is one of the three most recognizable archetypes, the others being the anima and animus and the persona."
It is the repressed instincts that these "talented" people that can play havoc with their lives, demanding attention, causing a psychological crash of the system.
Originally posted by wylee
But where do these instincts come from?
You speak of remote viewing. It is a fancinating subject, entanglement.
And to the point about psychics not being able to see their own future? Hah, that's what it's for. That and the Cassandra complex are just bs to keep you unempowered, unbelieving in youself and your own creative abilities.
Originally posted by wylee
These are abilties that have a survival function or they would not have been passed from generation from generation. Some biopsychologist believe that we are constantly predicting the future because we never "see" in real time. We have a time gap between the light hitting the retina, processed and shown in one's consciousness.
Originally posted by wylee
So people may be better a "seeing" the patterns in the present and how that will affect the future.
Have you ever checked out The Field By Lynn McTaggert. It's probably old info for you but still a good listen.