Why are all UFO videos/pictures in such bad quality..

Anybody ever notice how most UFO videos and pictures are in horrible quality to the point where you can't tell whether its real or fake? I'd love for somebody to prove me wrong, because I sure as hell have barely seen a good quality video with UFOs, hell even pictures.

you try taking a pic of a obect that just apeard in the air whoknows how farup-moving??

Originally posted by Dmsoldier
you try taking a pic of a obect that just apeard in the air whoknows how farup-moving??

Still. I've yet to see a half decent UFO picture. After all these years you would think someone would have taken a decent picture by now.

With the best evidence being confiscated by the U.S. government, like Roswell and other crashes, air craft gun camera footage, and NASA footage (like Joseph Walker's X-15 films he admitted to), I am sure that all the best civilian footage is confiscated as well.

There is also the problem of photographing or filming something you aren't expecting and trying to get a good shot of it when its thousands of feet in the air. I would suspect pretty much nobody thinks they are going to see a UFO. When they do see one, most don't have a camera. When they have a camera, they most likely aren't going to have a UFO that is right next to them or that will sit still to allow a picture. So you end up with mostly bad pictures.

There is also the case of the November 2000 Bonsall Derbyshire England UFO video depicting a 3-mile wide UFO. It apparently was so convincing that a U.S. TV producer bought it for $20,000, but nobody has heard anything about it since. Cover up? Nobody knows.

And then there are cases that have great footage that cause little uproar or controversy. Stuff like the incredible Greifswald Germany UFO videos shot by at least four different people at different locations.

Hmm, thats a very good point. Confiscation..I read a while back on here about some interview with an alien, but I remember the link was broken. Does anybody remember that topic? Wondering if anybody else happens to have some videos also.

in my opinion, I think that most people just dont go carrying around high quaility cameras and are always raedy to take a snapshot of a UFO at that short notice. And the people that do get their evidence confiscated. But I think the main reason is that most of the pictures aren't done by professionals, just ordinary civilians with regular cameras that wouldn't be suitable for photographing a moving object in hi-quality like that

there's my $.02

What a simple, but VERY true and important point. It's so frusterating that you can't find much that you can even begin to tell whether it's genuine. I would have to go with the confiscation theory.

This question is one of the great wonders of UFOlogy. The confiscation argument doesn't work in my opinion. How does the government know you have taken a picture of a UFO? They can't know, unless they spy on everyone every second of the day, which is something I don't believe they have the technology or money to do. Within minutes you can have it on the internet and it's spread around the world.
I think it's just a matter of time until someone with a high quality camera takes a good picture of a UFO. High quality cameras have been much cheaper and some medium quality cameras are being built into mobile phones at the moment. You'll have a camera with you all the time.

Originally posted by amantine
This question is one of the great wonders of UFOlogy. The confiscation argument doesn't work in my opinion. How does the government know you have taken a picture of a UFO? They can't know, unless they spy on everyone every second of the day, which is something I don't believe they have the technology or money to do. Within minutes you can have it on the internet and it's spread around the world.

With the internet as a delivery system and our governments able to monitor it using echelon and other methods, I suspect that they do have complete control over internet information distribution. At least when they need to. With all the money poured into secrecy on this subject, the last thing they're going to allow is an internet upload to spill the beans. Track the IP, close down whatever site had the offending material, and then trace the IPs of those who downloaded it. Though they would have to be quick about it. If they don't react in time, then the next plan would have to be put out, such as the debunking of the video as digital special effects. Not that any UFO video or picture has ever helped at all, no matter the source (NASA stuff, Greifswald Germany, or that Nellis test range video leak).

As for non digital media distribution, the government has that method of UFO secrecy down even tighter. Some stories don't get past the local paper if that far. Much like the talk about the Portsmouth UFO event that was discussed here recently. Nothing else has come of it.

Also take into account that our governments have tons of spy satellites that serve only one purpose. To monitor the skies. Any UFO that comes in is more than likely spotted and tracked. People within range to video tape or photograph the event would be more subject to being found out even without the government knowing exactly who takes what picture when because the areas that the UFOs are seen in would likely be marked as potential evidence hazards. Since there are only so many ISPs in a single area, keeping a close watch of the local net traffic near a UFO sighitng would seem fairly easy depending on exactly how powerful government internet monitoring equipment is.

Great point! With all the cameras available these days I think we should see more. Remember we didn't used to see cops beat suspects either until Rodney King.

Also, I'm sure ufo's do everything they can not to be seen as they are aware of this. Thus I imagine they travel mostly at night, behind cloud cover & cloaked. Maybe the only time their visible is during a mishap. Our aircraft have lights so they can be seen, otherwise we wouldn't see most of them at night.

Most sightings are probably just misidentified aircraft, birds etc. Definately some things up there that we didn't make & we're not aware of their origins though.

[Edited on 7-3-2004 by outsider]

Heelstone, your idea only works when you have an omnipotent organisation that never makes a mistake. That would also have to kill or silence in another way anyone involved. Wouldn't we by now have heard a story of someone who downloaded an UFO picture and had his computer confiscated? Why are there all those UFO pictures on this and other sites that have not been taken offline by the government? It would seem to me that these are the most easy to find.

Those spy satellites are made for spying the ground. I don't think the lenses are made for seeing things sharp a few km above the surface. Also clouds could hide the UFOs.

Encryption is a possibility for spreading UFO pictures if you don't want the government to find it. I highly doubt Echelon has the capabilities to decrypt a file encrypted ten times with the highest encryption standard available within considerable time. Unless you believe in an omnipotent organisation, then everything is possible.

Originally posted by amantine
Heelstone, your idea only works when you have an omnipotent organisation that never makes a mistake. That would also have to kill or silence in another way anyone involved. Wouldn't we by now have heard a story of someone who downloaded an UFO picture and had his computer confiscated? Why are there all those UFO pictures on this and other sites that have not been taken offline by the government? It would seem to me that these are the most easy to find.

When you have a government that lies to the public about UFOs, it could just as easily charge somebody falsely for a crime and take their computer without even admitting to the UFO aspect of the computer removal.

As for the images that are currently online, none so far have ever done any damage to the government in getting any type of trial or disclosure happening. Not even events where the government's own employees blow the whistle. Frankly I'm not sure what type of evidence is necessary to get anything to happen, but I'm sure that any agency that is involved in the cover up of this subject is most interested in finding out what we know and makes attempts from us finding out anything further. The less publicly available good evidence, the better for those involved in keeping it secret.

Those spy satellites are made for spying the ground. I don't think the lenses are made for seeing things sharp a few km above the surface. Also clouds could hide the UFOs.

NORAD publicly admits to being able to and actually performs the tracking of orbital debris. Thousands of objects (I've read anywhere from 8 to 100 thousand objects) that they have said so far and anything that is over 10 centimeters in size. And that is what they publicly admit to doing. The word debris can be easily replaced with UFOs.

Encryption is a possibility for spreading UFO pictures if you don't want the government to find it. I highly doubt Echelon has the capabilities to decrypt a file encrypted ten times with the highest encryption standard available within considerable time. Unless you believe in an omnipotent organisation, then everything is possible.

When the average person does anything online, I doubt encryption enters into the picture. Almost never do people of any interest in UFOs or conspiracy in general manage to capture an image of a UFO. The chance that a computer geek that would recognize the need for encryption on UFO material would be quite minute. Let alone such a geek that would take the best evidence ever. More than likely such evidence would be taken by a soccer mom or other common types that happen to have a camera. Generally these types of people have no clue that there is any possibility that the government could stop them from producing it for public consumption.

[Edited on 7-3-2004 by heelstone]

You surely can't believe the government kills everyone that has downloaded a UFO picture of high enough quality. That would not go noticed. If the government only confiscates computers, why haven't we heard from people whose computer was taken because of UFO pictures? We would also have heard by now from government officials who blow the whistle.

I think that even if the government knows what UFOs are and if they are really trying to hide it, they will not go hunting the internet and people's homes for pictures. Just ignore it and if the general public finds out, call it a fake. Who cares what a bunch of internet forum posters without any real powers think about UFO pictures? Giving the issue attention would only show that there is definately something interesting to it and I think that this would be what the government would want to avoid.

Well, at least if I were the government, that would be my policy. As long as people claiming to have evidence of UFOs are considered crazy by the general public, you have nothing to worry about.

In my opinion most UFO pictures are of such a low quality because if they were of higher quality the pictures can be identified as a plane or some other normal explanation. Then they are no longer UFO pictures. I'm not saying that all UFOs can be explained by planes, but I think a large portion could be explained by this. Remember, UFOs are still unidentified and what is more difficult to identify than a low quality picture?

Originally posted by amantine
You surely can't believe the government kills everyone that has downloaded a UFO picture of high enough quality. That would not go noticed. If the government only confiscates computers, why haven't we heard from people whose computer was taken because of UFO pictures? We would also have heard by now from government officials who blow the whistle.

I doubt the government kills anybody who isn't one of their own. Death threats work well enough as it is on people. Take Roswell for example. We didn't hear about the death threats that the townsfolk of Roswell and the surrounding areas got until 30+ years later when Stanton Friedman started looking into the subject.

IMO, if any major internet leak has happened that they did not want to take place, everybody involved gets charged with a crime they didn't commit in order to take their computers and then gets threatened to shut up in some manner. Now I'm sure you're going to say why has nobody said anything about this? Would anybody pay attention to a person that was charged with some illegal thing like kiddie porn who then claims that their computer had been taken because they had UFO pics and they were threatened not to mention it? Of course not. It sounds insane.

We do know that government whistleblowers are threatened and/or harrassed. It just depends on what they know. If they know too much, they get killed. James Forrestal is a great candidate for death from knowing too much about UFOs, as is the recently deceased David Kelly (unrelated to UFOs though). Most of these deaths are never reported though or reported as something completely unrelated.

I think that even if the government knows what UFOs are and if they are really trying to hide it, they will not go hunting the internet and people's homes for pictures. Just ignore it and if the general public finds out, call it a fake. Who cares what a bunch of internet forum posters without any real powers think about UFO pictures? Giving the issue attention would only show that there is definately something interesting to it and I think that this would be what the government would want to avoid.

I'm sure that for the most part, this particular method works. Denial has been the policy since 1947 and its quite effective. There is the chance that a UFO event could cause problems though and I don't think they would ignore that possibility. If the government takes this threat so seriously as to deny it outright in the face of other evidence, I'm sure they sweat bullets any time new information comes out.

It's a matter of finding the right link about somebody having their computer, files, harddrives, etc being confiscated. I watched a special on TLC I think it was, about Area 51. The main reporter/researcher on there went back to his house and found that the FBI had come and taken all of his computers, files, etc just because he had been driving around the area and had been using cameras etc (for the show). It happens alot, even if there is the slightest suspicion that someone did something illegal or something against their best interest. Anybody ever heard of the big Halflife 2 code leak? One guy, whose roomate knew some informaton about it, was woken up at 6am with the FBI at his door. They came in and took every one of his computers (he had alot), scavaged his whole apartment, took cd's etc. Basically just told him to get out for an hour while they did their work. Anyway, it does happen, confiscation.

Has anyone seen this UFO pic of a craft flying over The Bra Fence, HAHAHA --> www.iwasabducted.com...

Originally posted by heelstone
With the best evidence being confiscated by the U.S. government, like Roswell and other crashes, air craft gun camera footage, and NASA footage (like Joseph Walker's X-15 films he admitted to), I am sure that all the best civilian footage is confiscated as well.

There is also the problem of photographing or filming something you aren't expecting and trying to get a good shot of it when its thousands of feet in the air. I would suspect pretty much nobody thinks they are going to see a UFO. When they do see one, most don't
have a camera. When they have a camera, they most likely aren't going to have a UFO that is right next to them or that will sit still to allow a picture. So you end up with mostly bad pictures.

There is also the case of the November 2000 Bonsall Derbyshire England UFO video depicting a 3-mile wide UFO. It apparently was so convincing that a U.S. TV producer bought it for $20,000, but nobody has heard anything about it since. Cover up? Nobody knows.

And then there are cases that have great footage that cause little uproar or controversy. Stuff like the incredible Greifswald Germany UFO videos shot by at least four different people at different locations.

Also they move very fast.

Hey

I have found that the best photos and videos have been out of Mexico.

Heres a link
ufocasebook.com...

The ufos seen over Mexico city on the summer of 91 during a eclipse I find to be the best to date.

The one I saw and still have in my memories, is clearly an "advanced aircraft," as I put it to a friend. These things are serious business, as you can recognize from the vast body of published literature. A clear photo of what I saw was possible, but I am certain it would never have been published due to the stranglehold in these matters upon the media.

Here is my story:

Since early April 1983 I am aware by direct experience we are not alone. On an early evening walk in Waikiki, Honolulu Hawaii, I witnessed a brief encounter with a UFO. Its multi colored lights absent sound entered into my own live record of perceptions. Its distance was at the 7th story, and at about 45 degrees, so it was about 100 to 150 feet away and "in your face," so to speak.

It appeared between the twin Banyan Towers on Ohua Avenue, on my left hand side while I walked towards the ocean. Hundreds of people must have had an opportunity to witness this sighting whereas anyone looked out their windows must have noted. Hopefully someone somewhere will reconfirm my sighting.

I walked ahead after it flew behind the tower closer to the ocean. I crossed the street to go around and look for it. It was gone.

The most vivid impression I have ever had, was the only time in my life I have witnessed the wonder of this apparently extraterrestrial technology.

Once you have actually witnessed the phenomenon, you simply you realize the absurdity of debunking by conventional media.

If anyone was staying at the Banyan Twin Towers on Ohua Avenue at Kuhio Avenue in April of 1983 please let me know if you also had a sighting.



[Edited on 7-3-2004 by SkipShipman]

That link with the videos, is the alien interview any good?