The Alien autopsy is real.

I am a senoir student in animation, and game design. If you have ever seen the alien autopsy on tv, or downloaded it from a peer to peer site like Azureus or Emule plus, then you have seen a real alien autopsy. It is possible to create a fake or bogus hoax of the alien autopsy. I have seen on tv the alien autopsy in the mid nighties, like 1995, and 3d hasn't goten to look realistic until 1995, like Jurastic Park movie. To create a hoax like that in 1995 would cost alot of money. I'm a animator, and to create a hoax like the alien autopsy would be very exspensive to make, and would be very exspensive to make even nowadays. The film was from a film that was around the 1950's according to the tellevision station that played it in the mid nighties. Maybe the alien craft was hit by lightning. This film was from area 51. Alien's exists. Outer sapce goes on for infinity, and is still growing new universes, like new galacies are being born according to Nasa's satellite. To think we are the only living things in the entire outer space is being very conceded.

The alien autopsy fake was not animated. It used a model that was created. I don't remember what however, but it wasn't animated.

Im pretty sure the debate wasnt whether it was 3d animation, but whether it was a "manican", "doll", or whatever you want to call it.

Emule Plus is a peer to peer that has a IP filter built into it, and Azureus is a peer to peer program, but with Azureus you'll need to donload, and install the instalation plugin called safe peer, so you'll be anonomous when you file share which is very important if you are filesharing nowadays. Fileshareing nowadays without some kind of IP filter like peer guardian is like taking a risk on getting a lawsuite, if the file has copyright on it.

Even if the alien autopsy was a manican, it still would be very exspensive to make. Who and why would people spend alot of money to create a hoax. Even Hollywood would still be proud today to create a hoax, like the alien autopsy. If you never seen it, then download it.

I'm not sure, he seems to be talking an awful lot about animation. No animation needed for a manican and wouldn't have been any harder then that it is today really.


The hoax was made as they claimed it was an exact copy of real footage which had been stored badly and so no longer worked.
And I believe it was done very cheaply indeed.

And why are you now posting about peer to peer sharing?

[edit on 24-6-2008 by umbr45]

[edit on 24-6-2008 by umbr45]

I believe that the alien autopsy of area 51 has no a copyright to it.

Because of the ROI. I remember reading where the guy who sold it got a pretty large sum of money for the video.

I am talking about peer to peer, because I'm not sure if it is available for a free download from the internet. If it is available for free download on the web, then I'm not aware of it.

I remember watching the original airing, and during the tv show Stan Winston said that if it was faked, it was the most impressive special effects he had ever seen. And if it was faked, the person who did it should call him, because he would hire that person immediately without question.

I always thought that was interesting-- that someone as revered as Stan Winston would "ooo and awe" over the video and at the time it made me believe the video to be real.

Anyway- my useless 2 cents

There are several 'tells' as to it being a fake autopsy.

There's a place where one of the docs brushes the arm of the dummy and it shakes like a rubber appliance.

The autopsy procedures are not even close to real autopsy procedures. Just because something is 'alien' the methodology is the same.

The video is inter-cut in ways that betray the way it is made. Jump cuts, dissolves, and fade ins and outs. The camera type usually has a characteristic way the subject fades in and out when the film is stopped and started and this is not evident. The angles he uses are not done correctly to show the procedure but are obviously done to obscure important detail.

There's no reason for the doctors to be dressed like they are, especially the guy behind the window, isolated from the entire procedure. Note that he's wearing a full moon-suit even though he's not exposed.

There are a few more things, but that's off the top of my head, having done a analysis of it about 10-12 years ago.

Finally, if you read up on it Ray Santilli admits the film is a 'reconstruction' of the real film, saying that the original had degraded due to time and heat.

Wiki: Alien Autopsy (Santilli film)

Ray Santilli and fellow producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (a "few frames," in their words), while the rest was a reconstruction of twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which Santilli had viewed in 1992 but which had subsequently degraded from humidity and heat.

He even goes so far as to detail how they made it using sheep parts:

According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys, an artist and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in raspberry jam, chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also played the role of the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate attempts at making the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins across London.[2]

HTH.

Guess this shows you should do a little research on stuff like this before you go posting things and irreparably damaging your credibility here.



[edit on 24-6-2008 by Badge01]

There is in fact a film called alien autopsey whihch tells you much of how it was faked as well.

It is not a documentary, but based on what Ray and Gary said.

reply to post by Alora


The demonity of your avatar puts me off, but your words ring true. What's a 50-year old phart to do?

Do red eyes=demon? unknown.

ergo, focus on the words and stop being a numbknutz.

Well said Alora ;o)+

I will do some research before I post stuff on any website from now on, but this hoax was done like in a professional way. Whoever did this hoax should be in the entertainment industry becoming rich.

Actually I think it was done mostly through simple skills. Was one person involved...not Ray or Gary a butcher, who was able to help with the inards and cutting tools. As well as filming everything.

The alien autopsy video is an obvious hoax, I am a medical student and I can tell you now the way that autopsy is carried out is just laughable! If it were a real autopsy it would have been carried out in a much more methodical manner rather than the slap-dash cut a peice off and put it into a tray. Also if I remember, was'nt the clock a major give away to it being fake?

with todays technology... and a little imagination... it is possible to fake just about anything on film now... and it has been for a long time.. for someone to make a statement that it cant be done,.. is out of touch with reality.

It's no secret that the guys came forward and admitted it was a hoax. There was a whole documentary (not the movie) on how they did it includng people like the butcher who gave them the insides, the guy who made the dummy, various people involved. It was filmed in a flat in London and cost barely anything. They even showed a prop they had (that metallic alien hand plate thing)

Here we go, a quick search does the trick:-

On April 4, 2006, two days prior to the UK release of Alien Autopsy (a British comedy feature film on the subject of the footage), British Sky Broadcasting broadcast a documentary, Eamonn Investigates: Alien Autopsy, presented by Eamonn Holmes. In this program, Ray Santilli and fellow producer Gary Shoefield announced that their film was only partially real (a "few frames," in their words), while the rest was a reconstruction of twenty-two rolls of film, averaging four minutes in length, which Santilli had viewed in 1992 but which had subsequently degraded from humidity and heat. They said that only a few frames of the original were still intact by the time they had raised enough money to purchase it.[2]

Santilli and Shoefield stated that they had "restored" the damaged footage by filming a simulated autopsy on a fabricated alien, based upon what Santilli saw in 1992, and then adding in a few frames of the original film that had not degraded. They have not identified which parts are original footage.[2]

According to Santilli, a set was constructed in the living room of an empty flat in Rochester Square, Camden Town, London. John Humphreys, an artist and sculptor, was employed to construct two dummy alien bodies over a period of three weeks, using casts containing sheep brains set in raspberry jam, chicken entrails and knuckle joints obtained from S.C. Crosby Wholesale Butchers in Smithfield meat market, London. Humphreys also played the role of the chief scientist undertaking the examination, in order to allow him to control the effects being filmed. There were two separate attempts at making the footage. After filming, the team disposed of the "bodies" by cutting them into small pieces and placing them in rubbish bins across London.[2]

Alien objects, supposedly items recovered from the crash site, were depicted in the footage. These included alien symbols and six-finger control panels, which Santilli describes in the Sky documentary as being the result of artistic licence on his part. These artefacts were also created by Humphreys. The footage also showed a man reading a statement "verifying" his identity as the original cameraman and the source of the footage. Santilli and Shoefield admitted in the documentary that they had found an unidentified homeless man on the streets of Los Angeles, persuaded him to play the role of the cameraman, and filmed him in a motel.

en.wikipedia.org...

I hope you're talking about the same thing

[edit on 27-6-2008 by Xeros]

Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by Alora

 

The demonity of your avatar puts me off, but your words ring true. What's a 50-year old phart to do?

Do red eyes=demon? unknown.

ergo, focus on the words and stop being a numbknutz.

Well said Alora ;o)+

LOL- sorry. Perhaps cover that part of your screen with your hand next time? The eyes won't burn through your hand. Or will they *evil laugh*

Just kidding.

Anyway- on topic: Am I one of the rare ones who was broken hearted that this was fake? I thought we were actually making a large step foward. But alas, a hoaxster had to throw us a big step back.