Terra Papers - I was there

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Welcome to this interesting site. Have you ever heard of Alex Collier? If so what are your thoughts on what he has to say? There is a youtube link of his interview from 1994.

www.youtube.com...

What are your thoughts on 2012?

Thanks!

Z

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Karyn! Welcome to ATS! It is wonderful to have you join us and to offer so freely from your knowledge and experience.

I may have this wrong but I thought Robert had called in on one of the ATS Mix shows. I'll see if I can locate that -- but I am not so good at that sort of thing.

Again, welcome. I am thrilled that you have joined us here.

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For all those that may have missed it;

Roberts ATS MIX show can be downloaded from this ATS page:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

IRM

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Oh you are the man! Thank you for finding and providing that link to Robert's show.

Originally posted by kshaundell Has anyone checked statistics on missing children in the USA alone? What's that got to do with anything? Everything.

ok - before speculating over what missing children ` mean ` and what the link is to other things lets establish what the numbers of missing children in the USA alone actually is

so please lets see your figure , if you would

and we will take it from there

Originally posted by Komodo
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If you can get ahold of a DVD recorder FROM VHS you can convert them all over digitally.

sorry, I ment, a DVD/VHS recorder combo which will record VHS -->DVD

[edit on 04/02/2008 by Komodo]

It would probably be easier (and cheaper) to get a USB AV Capture device similar to this
www.ciao.com...
or this
www.audon.co.uk...

They are fairly easy to use, relatively cheap and should be available at most electronics stores.

[edit on 24/6/08 by GBBumblebee]

Karyn,

You can always send copies of the DVD's to Springer, Skeptic Overlord, or Simongray... IF you really want to get the videos to us (which I really want to you... I love the terra papers... read it all in a night... plan to do so again soon)
those guys can help you get 'em copied and posted to the videos forum on the site (as long as they can get robert to agree to it...

Just a suggestion.

Coven

P.s. The three I named are the owners of the site, I would suggest Springer as he seems to be the one videos and photos get sent to. u2u him once you have the points. I'll flag ya and hopefully we can get the ball rolling on this thread.

Originally posted by kshaundell
I have looked at some of the Terra Paper comments and speculations and would like to offer that I studied with Robert Morning Sky from 1997 to 1999 in Arizona and can explain many questions, like the style of book. Robert did all his own art work and printing and made those himself to sell to people who may be keen to learn the hidden history.

I was there at the beginning too, but mine was 5 years before yours.

In the early 1990s, Robert Morningsky came to Australia, as part of a cultural dance troupe, and they performed and gave workshops at our local Maleny Folk Festival (now known as the Woodford Folk Festival).

A friend of mine, who ran a local UFO group, happened to have a stall, or leaflets on a table in some corner of the festival, and Robert happened to pass by and glance at it. Robert said he was familiar with UFOs and aliens, and expressed astonishment and amazement at the 'current ufo literature' being circulated. He was referring to the emergence of the Cooper, Lear, Lazar, and Sitchin information, which he considered to all contain pieces of true information, but which he was sworn to secrecy about.

He then absorbed heaps of copies of Nexus, read Bruce Cathie books, Sitchin, all the Lear, Lazar, William Cooper stuff, Matrix I and II - and started doing talks and workshops wherever invited. Great presenter, very charismatic and energetic and informed speaker - very popular with the ladies too!

He told me, over several meetings around 1991-3, that he/his grandfather etc, had sheltered some blue alien/ET from the govt, and from other ETs for some time. This ET had imparted information and knowledge, which Robert said he was sworn not to reveal, until the 'right' time. He emphasised, that a lot of this information about Earth, its history, and its relationship to ETs, was contained in parts, scattered over a lot of the stuff he read put out by Lear, Cooper, Lazar, Bruce Cathie and Sitchin.

He felt strongly that he should now be allowed, by his tribe, to reveal all their knowledge from the blue ET that they had sheltered. I understood that upon his return to the USA from his first Aussie trip, he sought this permission from his tribe - but that it wasn't forthcoming due to 'politics'.

Anyway, he came back to Australia and did larger scale talks and presentations, on pretty much what is now in the Terra Papers. He told me, that to avoid technically breaking his vow of silence during these presentations, he would select the bits from Lear, Cooper, Lazar, Bruce Cathie and Sitchin etc, that 'matched' what the blue ET had told him and his people, and stitch them together for his talk/workshop. Which is what he did, plus he added questions that he thought people should be asking.

After he was recalled from his Aussie lecture tour by his wife, and given the "behave or else" lecture, he went quiet for several years. With the advent of the internet, he reemerged and has basically carried on where he left off, and it seems the whole package is now in "The Terra Papers".

He is a lovable rogue, and some will say that he was more showman than shaman.
But underneath all this, I did always believe he was genuine about the blue ET and what was told to him about Earth and its history etc.

In my opinion, "The Terra Papers" represents another piece of the jigsaw puzzle of our existence. Where it fits, is entirely up to the reader.

peace

Duncan

rain, rain, parae parade,
sorry folks but i read the terra papers and it comes off as someone's vey lively imagination.
Just to comic book for me, all the different species of aliens and all that...c'mon.
look it would make a fun movie ...maybe.

Originally posted by kshaundell
I hope to start presentations locally (I'm in BC Canada) and make his work available in all forms (written and DVD) in the near future.

The VHS workshop tapes I have are being converted into DVD's - slowly but surely.

You don't have to prove anything, For those that believe, no proof is necessary, for those that don't, none will suffice. And also you better hurry up with your stuff, we're running out of time and people world wide must know what lies ahead.

Thnx for coming to ATS and sharing your thoughts with us.

Originally posted by kidflash2008
The Terra papers sound a lot like Zecharia Sitchin's books and his theories of the ancient Summerians. These theories all came out in the 1970s, the same time Erich Von Danikan wrote his books. I am skeptical (a lot because of Von Danikan's proven false hoods)

(repost of mine from another similar thread)
Translation; if it doesn't agree with my paradigm, it's B.S. if it agrees with other people's paradigms, who I don't agree with, it's B.S. and foremost, if it gives any validity, whatsoever, to the ancient texts of every ancient civ in ancient history, it's B.S. because we all know that no one told the truth back then, that Troy never existed: cerhas.uc.edu... , that the bible stories were not based on history as no examples of similar events were ever found from the same area of the world: www.ancienttexts.org... ,
that even IF there were similar examples, those examples were pure myth and the people mentioned never existed: news.bbc.co.uk... , that there's no archaeological evidence of reptilians having ever been to this planet: oi.uchicago.edu...
oi.uchicago.edu...
oi.uchicago.edu...
www.thestargates.com...
www.thestargates.com...
www.thestargates.com...

and my personal favorite:
www.thestargates.com...

So, you say, those are probably humans wearing masks! How long do you suppose they did this? Ever heard of the same exact costume design lasting for 6000 years without change? And even more interesting, having it be all over the body depiction of scales? www.thestargates.com...

Hey, did you know the ancient Greeks couldn't write (so said Friedrich August Wolf, 300 years ago) ? Guess he was wrong: www.ancientscripts.com...

Well even if all of that may have archaeological evidence, it is still probably just myth. (use to be archaeological evidence was science, now it appears that only some archaeological evidence is science and the rest is still myth. isn't that interesting?

It's okay though. I understand everyone has their own paradigm to protect but you might want to consider modifying your stance a bit if the truth is what you are honestly after.


Disclaimer: This was not meant as a personal dig against anyone in particular, but just an offering of archaeological evidence. There's also textual evidence, but our enlightened ones claim it's all bunk. Funny thing that!

I am so glad I happened to find this thread. Welcome, Karyn!

As you might guess... I have read the Papers and found they explained my Universe so well I could not disbelieve.

I am certain much was left out (for brevity, and perhaps Bek'Ti left much out, as well), but what was there was enough to lead me on a new path.

Since the Papers said that at this time we (Blood of EA) can step up and claim our throne, I did so. I expect to be sharing it with all other humans, of course, but I figured someone had to be the first to make that stand.

And in sharing the throne, we can create a "democratic monarchy" here on the planet Eridu (and throughout our solar system Eridu). Each of us kings and queens will have a vote that will count. (I do not relish being "in charge," but if ever voted to such a position, I would humbly serve.)

I have a glossary on page 19 of the Terra papers : Hidden History of Planet Earth - Now Online! thread ( www.abovetopsecret.com... ) which I constructed to assist others in following the characters and the names of things. I also posted a concluding discussion with LOTS of questions...

I will repost the closing discussion here as well:

A Closing Discussion of the Terra Papers
by Amaterasu

There are many questions left unanswered in these Papers. Many, many, in fact. Here I will list ones we might want to contemplate, and ask of those who could answer us – should we encounter them.

What was the purpose of the dinosaurs? Was that an SSS-T experiment…or something else?

Is the Ninth Passageway a naturally occurring wormhole?

At the beginning it is mentioned that we will see “black pigs” in our media. What is the significance of the black pig?

What is the significance of “AI” (evil eye), mentioned in the list of derived Egyptian words but not mentioned in the text?

What caused the “Galactic Great Wars?” Who were involved?

How were metals forged on BAR-BAR-U (Jupiter) if habitation was not an option?

What race was Bek’Ti?

What stopped the TIAMAT fragment (Earth) from its fall into the sun?

What (who) was the neighboring star system that threatened the SSS-T (“age-old enemy”)?

What does it mean for star ships to be “cloaked in silence?”

How were energy crystals grown? What were they made of?

What were the reanimation centers? How did they work?

What gave these beings immortality?

When EA “left ERIDU,” after AN-EN (EN-LIL) was given administration, was this the city, planet or solar system?

Was the beast originally demonstrated by NIN-HUR-SAG Neanderthal?

Were all EA-SU reprogrammed by MARDUK, or did some escape that fate?

What is S-MA? Do we know it by another name?

Though it is said we will be told the significance of the Grays’ two heart system, it cannot be found in the Papers as I have received them. What is the significance?

Why did the ASA-RRR (from Book 1) become referred to as the KANUS in Book 2?

There are other questions, to be sure, and the reader may have some I failed to bring up. But, all in all, it holds together exquisitely, is consistent, and explains so much.

I have claimed the throne, but all who share the blood of EA may share it with me. We will become a “democratic monarchy,” an arrangement that, in the end, in the hands of those who hold the Gift of the Feather, will be far more satisfactory than the lizard-run operation we see today.

Join me if you can, if you are ADAMA, if you are ADAPA. And call your brothers and sisters to ascend!

Originally posted by InfaRedMan
Concerning missing children, I have to disagree with your hypothesis. There is a more realistic (down to earth) answer as to why so many children disappear. I would like to suggest that very sick & dangerous individuals combined with child porn rings are closer to the mark.

Is it possible that these "very sick & dangerous individuals" are not human? That we are told they are? That they are lizard-hearted and not human hearted? Is it possible that sexual repression has twisted many a human heart to spend money to see this porn (they are all about profits, afterall...)?

I am making no claims here, just wondering if this is possible...

Originally posted by ObamaMomma
rain, rain, parae parade,
sorry folks but i read the terra papers and it comes off as someone's vey lively imagination.
Just to comic book for me, all the different species of aliens and all that...c'mon.
look it would make a fun movie ...maybe.

Well then, sleep on.

I know it's rough to shift one's paradigm from the one we have been taught (that we have seen no evidence that we are not alone in this Universe). But I assure you... Just because you cannot make that shift (like those who could not believe the planet was not flat) does not remove its validity.

But I will not make it a goal to force anyone's paradigm in any direction; that choice belongs to the individual. So like I said...

Sleep on.

EA was RA. I think.
In the sumerian-akkadian text, ENKI'S JOURNEY TO NIBRU,
his city was described as entirely made of silver, covered with gold, with blue lapis decorations.
In the egyptian text, THE LEGEND OF THE DESTRUCTION OF MANKIND, Ra is said to have bones like silver (E.ABZU was entirely made of silver), skin like gold (E.ABZU was covered in gold) and blue hair like lapis (E.ABZU had blue lapis decoration).

Check out that text if you wanna see what Enki's been up to in time's past. He's an interesting character, no doubt about it, but not always a particularly nice character. This is his planet, even his name says as much, which would explain why he tries to give it to Jesus in exchange for his fealty.

EA was a reptilian at one point. He lost that host body and took another. I believe his next one was Mesh-ki-ang-gasher (biblical Cush). Then Enmerkar (Nimrod), who attempted to rebuild Eridu on the same exact spot (Eridu was Babel - the E.ABZU was the Tower of Babel). Enmerkar was also Osiris (meaning Nimrod was Osiris) and when the rebuilding of Babel fell threw, he went to Abydos and founded the egyptian dynasty, built the Osirieon, and ends up with a whole series of hosts in various pharaohs. He shows up later in the King of Tyre. Busy guy. Can't run a planet while sitting on your hands, ya know.

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fun fiction thats all.
cannot compare to the flat earth theory.

here is one reason why this terra papers is faulty.
if they made us as slaves, why did they give us free will to revolt?

if i was gonna make slaves they would have no free will, they would be perfect, obedient animals with minimal IQ and perfect health so I wouldn't have to keep making ore they would live longer. they would also not kill eachother off in wars.

someone has read too many fiction books and watch to many movies (yes, they get cable on the reservation)



[edit on 24-6-2008 by ObamaMomma]

Originally posted by ObamaMomma
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fun fiction thats all.
cannot compare to the flat earth theory.

here is one reason why this terra papers is faulty.
if they made us as slaves, why did they give us free will to revolt?

if i was gonna make slaves they would have no free will, they would be perfect, obedient animals with minimal IQ and perfect health so I wouldn't have to keep making ore they would live longer. they would also not kill eachother off in wars.

someone has read too many fiction books and watch to many movies (yes, they get cable on the reservation)

dunno about the terra papers, but my research seems to indicate we aren't even from this planet. not one statue prior to 3900 BC is human. when we were ejected threw the gates of Eden, i think it's describing that Eden wasn't even on this "earth." that the gates were some kind of portal or something. See the hebrews would've called anything solid they stood on, besides buildings, "earth." To them, "earth" was solid ground. They had no name for this planet. My theory is that they didn't even know it wasn't the same planet.

The debunkers mind works in mysterous ways.Any thing touched by human hands carry flaws from embellishment to outright lies.The terra papers taken as one piece of evidence has many flaws.The terra papers added to the sumerian text and lore and legend of many other cultures hold a ring of truth.
To dismisss the terra papers out of hand would be quite arrogant.

"The leaves nor the limbs hold the secret,one must look to the roots for the truth"

I have a few questions that maybe you can answer.

Of what race did Bek'Ti belong?

Did Bek'Ti return to his people or die here on Earth? what date did he depart?

Is the war in the skies above us still raging?

[edit on 24-6-2008 by mc1km]

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Awesome info thanks for it all

Z