Brainwashing and The Media

There's manipulation in the media outlets(not just TV) to be sure.

From what I'be gathered, the longer you are involved in certain "non interactive" tasks, that is tasks that really do not require your full attention, concentration or for you to put effort into it; you attain a point which is oft referred to as "synthesis" where your sub conscious is dominating your overall perception of reality.

At any time of "synthesis" you are like a computer that's just sitting there for the most part cycling waiting for data to process. I mean sure critical functions and involuntary systems of the body keep running, but other than that you're just sitting there letting this "supercomputer" go to waste, and so it is open to any stimuli it can find.

The government and ad agencies know of this as well, and they make a point of constantly testing new methods of inputting information of value to them that A. Successfully enters your mind and processes without fragmentation and B. It is retained in your memory without high possibility of accidental or involuntary "purging".

There are many methods used to achieve this goal, and there are frequency pitches that aid them slightly. The most successful messaging to enter our brains is via either info that is presented in a sexual nature of one sort or another, or via patterns, sounds, and motions that can attract our interest in a semi short period of time. I say semi-short as our brains "refresh rate" is so so very fast that really they could get multiple images through in the avg time of a single implantation, the normally do not however, as that can lead to their dreaded "fragmentation"(see above).

If one really would like to research this, you'll notice that this is not merely a domain that is ruled by ad agencies hoping to make you purchase the latest widget. In fact the government buys "spots" in television programming (news broadcasts, sitcoms, children's shows, talk shows, dramas, movies etc) to get a stated ideal "endorsed" by your favorite show's actors. Now this varies from your average "always wear a seatbelt" to the "don't drink underage" etc... But they also do "implanting" that can only be described as "psyops", wherein you get fast "coding" to instill an ideal "patriotism" or a sensory perception "fear" or "outrage" etc ... you should be getting the idea by now.

I'd imagine the next thing to ask would be "Is there anyway to combat such things?" And while I can say there are ways to still go about watching t.v. like you do now with a few tips to avoid "synthesis", I want to make it clear that the only way to be sure you combat such actions is to *not watch television, and not use radio as a "background device" (such as while driving, or cleaning house etc* As I know most find the above to be "loony" or what have you, I will say that you can do the following things while watching t.v. or radio in order to combat most covert messaging:

Truly try to engage another in a conversation that keeps your mind working and involved in the "here and now", drifting off to the "synthesis daze" is your enemy...

Get up and walk around from the TV constantly. Yes you really should every 15mins or so, a good way is to make a point of getting up, muting the TV or whatever and walk into another room during the commercial breaks. This step alone will put you a step ahead of most.

Watch in small doses, as it's the prolonged exposure that really lets your mind "wind down" and just sit there open to what-have-you.


Well that's just my $0.02 on the whole thing. Good luck to ya on it, whatever you choose!

Will also put this (cut and pasted) as an individual thread to enhance visibility in a minute or so.

TS
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Deny Ignorance.

YOU are not unique! you are not special! You are the all singing, all dancing crap of the universe, and we are begining to believe it...... Lets all take our pills during a comercial break

I just finnished reading a very good book today. "Look to Windward" By Iain M. Banks was an enjoyable read, even though - if you'll allow me to play critique for a moment - it did have the odd lull or sense of repetition in scene develpment.

In considering what book to read next, the points raised here about TV, commercialism and those with something to gain (but little to offer) - and given that it's undenyable that their effects on our way of life are remakably drastic, I've decided that I'm going to read George Orwell's 1984.

I think theres irony to be found in the fact that having big brother watch us would probably have the same effect as would having us all watching big brother (something I visciously insist I shall not do) .

I'm Hoping there are other parallels that can be gleamed from Orwell's work, but there's only one true way to find out!

Thanks for the inspiration guys

Alex (Al-Co.) Downs

In the 1950's, Dr. Ewen Cameron, developed a mind control/brain washing technique, he called, psychic driving. What it involves is the repetitious, systematic, ubiquitous exposure of a subject to programmed - television, radio, magazines, books, movies, newspapers, music, etc - patterns, images, concepts, phrasology, and sounds to literally DRIVE the progamming into a subjects mind. This is probably advertising and marketing #101 stuff. Why? BECAUSE IT WORKS!

It not only has proven very effective in innocuous advertising but also for DRIVING political and social agendas by special interests.

The HOLLOWHOAX, aka Holocaust, is a prime example of a very successfully waged psychic driving brain washing campaign begun years ago. The "American" Jew monopoly media was, and is used to great effect upon persuading a majority of the public that their little HOLLOWHOAX was a significant, monumental event in the annals of history. When in point of fact is was nothing of the kind.

Brain washing can be easily pulled off on an entire population if an organized cabal who owns and controls all formats of media dissemination work in unified collaboration toward a desired end. Hence the Jew media perpetrated HOLLOWHOAX psychic driving onslaught of magazine and newspaper articles, television programming, movies, radio discussion, books, museums, etc., etc.

Psychic driving is also more effective when introduced with psychic trauma, i.e. images and sounds of blood, guts, violence, creepy music, screams of pain and agony, etc. I witnessed a perfect example of this mind control technique being applied in a fact-based horror movie entitled "Ed Gein".
At the very end of this very gory, sick movie about a real life psychopathic killer, the Jew movie makers have the lead character, Ed Gein, sitting down on a sofa, reading a book with a large swastika on the front cover, while listening to Adolf Hitler's live shortwave radio broadcasts from Germany

The scene really had no place in telling the dramatized story whatsoever. It was only included at the very end of the movie for the purpose of driving a subliminal message into the viewers' now traumatized and highly suggestable state of mind, of a cause and effect association between sociopathic madmen in general, and the Jew's little HOLLOWHOAX




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It would be difficult to deny the fact that the holocaust actually happened. After WWII we found millions of teeth from the Jews taken for their gold content, blankets woven from the hair of the Jewish dead, photos of the concentration camps, mounds of Jewish dead, the ovens used to dispose of the bodies, survivors that can tell us the story and even Hitler�s own words outlining his plans to exterminate the Jews. The list goes on and on and on, it�s undeniable.

Neomoniker,

Btw � Do you mind if I ask you what your personal feelings are towards the Jews?

Originally posted by kinglizard
Neomoniker,

Btw � Do you mind if I ask you what your personal feelings are towards the Jews?

My personal feelings towards Jews in general are no different than any others. That is to say, I have no particular affinity or dislike for the majority of Jews. I do hold reservations for that small Jewish elite who have been driving their, narrow, global agenda that's resulted in much racial/ethnic strife, death, destruction, and suffering around the world, however - e.g. Iraq., to name the most recent case





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Ok neomoniker you offensive little schlemiel, enough of your spiteful, hate filled bile.

Lets take a look at your history to help us see generally how any comment from you should be credited;


Your very first post:

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neomoniker posted on 9/7/04 at 07:45 PM Post Number: 652062 (post id: 672756)

Entitled "Zionist/JUDEO-Christian Terrorists"

The real threat of global terrorism comes from the Zionist/JUDEO-Christian religious wackos calling the shots for the Bush Regime. It is their regimes foreign policies, and the several that have preceeded it, underwriting the welfare state of Israel on stolen 'Palistinian' land, in order to realise the second coming of THEIR Christ by means of THEIR biblically prophesied Armaggedon, which is responsible for generating the Arab-Islamic ire toward the United States.

OK, so far we have a fairly tame outburst, although it was to set the tone. Incidentally, pay attention to how many people took notice and responded to this little tantrum. I think from that we can see the general perception about the author.

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neomoniker posted on 10/7/04 at 01:59 PM Post Number: 653510 (post id: 674204)

Entitled "Climate of Fear"

What is the cost of this Zionist/JUDEO-Christian terrorists orchestrated act of unprovoked armed aggression against a fully sovereign Iraq up to so far... The CIA, et.al., were coerced into delivering erroneous 'intelligence' reports & analysis to bolster the Zionist/JUDEO-Christian terrorist foreign policy agenda of defending the welfare state of Israel's interests.

Ohh, do I note a trend being established here? Again no-one even bothers to comment on your post.

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neomoniker posted on 11/7/04 at 12:52 PM Post Number: 655277 (post id: 675971)
Building...
neomoniker posted on 11/7/04 at 01:43 PM Post Number: 655310 (post id: 676004)
BUILDING...
neomoniker posted on 11/7/04 at 02:44 PM Post Number: 655364 (post id: 676058)
CAN'T HOLD FOR LONG...
neomoniker posted on 11/7/04 at 03:43 PM Post Number: 655429 (post id: 676123)
---BOOM---

What we uncovered has clearly been designed to circumvent the limitations of the Constitution for the united States of America and implement the Communist Manifesto within the 50 States.

A further insight into a (tiny?) mind. Are there now going to be continued outbursts about 'commies' and such like as well as the all powerful Jewish consipracy? I am well aware that the quote was not of your own words, one only has to look at later posts where you refer to such political beliefs to understand that you are incapable of expressing your own views so eloquently.

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neomoniker posted on 12/7/04 at 10:30 AM Post Number: 657238 (post id: 677932)

Koji, would you mind posting the section of Public Law which unequivocally states the IRS is a government agency? I'd appreciate it.

Credit where credit is due - a courteous post addressed to one who it appears opposes your own personal take on the subject at hand. So it can be done then.

neomoniker posted on 12/7/04 at 11:13 AM Post Number: 657279 (post id: 677973)
Polite discourse continues.

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neomoniker posted on 12/7/04 at 12:00 PM Post Number: 657310 (post id: 678004)
Brief but polite
neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 02:51 PM Post Number: 662354 (post id: 683048)
neomoniker posted on 16/7/04 at 05:31 PM Post Number: 667813 (post id: 688507)
neomoniker posted on 16/7/04 at 09:39 PM Post Number: 668357 (post id: 689051)
All posts only consisting of links, no personal opinion so N/A... but wait....

neomoniker posted on 16/7/04 at 11:04 PM Post Number: 668539 (post id: 689233)
[Quoted here is a question relating to the links contained within the previous posts, the response?]

BS, Bleys, you're just being a bitch

neomoniker posted on 16/7/04 at 11:49 PM Post Number: 668617 (post id: 689311)
[In response to - "Neomoniker - Methinks I've touched a nerve. Care to elaborate further?"]

I just called a spade a spade, that's all.

Mod then jumps in and you are told to stop name calling. Name calling... sounds quite childish when it's parased as such doesn't it neomoniker. Well... I just called a spade a spade, that's all. After getting picked up on only posting links, and then warned about name calling, it appears you have nothing else to offer the debate. Shocking.

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neomoniker posted on 12/7/04 at 02:18 PM Post Number: 657449 (post id: 678143)

If they can manage it NYC is definitely a priority ONE target. Why? Because that's home base for the Jewish-Zionist fifth column elements operating in the united States of America.

Oh here we are, back to your opinions. Didn't I read something like this earlier?

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neomoniker posted on 12/7/04 at 06:55 PM Post Number: 657921 (post id: 678615)

Allow me to translate what President Bashar al-Assad was actually saying. He wants to restrict the flow of Zionist/JUDEO-Christian allied fifth column Kurds from moving freely across the border, into and out of Syria, by way of Iraq.

neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 12:23 PM Post Number: 659894 (post id: 680588)

In dealing with the Washington, D.C. based Zionist/JUDEO-Christian terrorists the solution both for the Syrians and the Iranians, or any other sovereign state for that matter, is quite simple: Acquire "the bomb" and its accurate, reliable, redundant delivery mechanisms.The nukes will quickly and efficiently cool the mercurial passions of not only Zionist zealots but any would-be wanna-be geopolitical/religious hegemon.

There is a theme here isn't there. I mean, I'm not imagining it am I. Kind of a one trick pony aren't you really. A little pathetic really.

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neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 03:46 PM Post Number: 660201 (post id: 680895)

...both parties are working in cahoots with foreign conspirators to shepherd in an all powerful, borderless, despotic one world government run by a small handful of APPOINTED slave plantation overlords.

I don't get a prize for guessing who these overlords would be in your opinion I suppose?

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neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 04:19 PM Post Number: 660265 (post id: 680959)
[Entitled - "The S***hole non-State of Israel"]

Does anyone find it highly conspicuous that a little outhouse non-country commands so much attention by the "American" mass media. Everyday the Jew tube, etc., delivers "news" about that insignificant strip of territory in gross disproportion to its relative geopolitical/economic importance.... As an American do you really give a hoot about that Zionist welfare non-state, Israel. I don't.
As far as I'm concerned, it wouldn't bother me one bit if the Palestinian's nuked the non-entity, Israel. I say, "Go for it!"

Yes, well, not really a leap of faith required to link you with that point of view is there?

neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 05:06 PM Post Number: 660355 (post id: 681049)

Well, then I think "we" need to do the Christian thing and nuke Is-not-real ourselves. It's the very least "we" can do for them

It is a shame that I can respond in words only here - you are missing the look of total surprise on my face.

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neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 06:16 PM Post Number: 660474 (post id: 681168)

they'll always be casting their worthless vote for an APPOINTED "chaff" candidate beholden to the very same globalist elites.

Ohh, ohh, let me guess who. Please.

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neomoniker posted on 13/7/04 at 08:47 PM Post Number: 660807 (post id: 681501)
A post consisting of two links and no personal comment, another fine contribution in your ATS life

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neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 12:18 AM Post Number: 661251 (post id: 681945)

Boy, I wish these Jew media propaganda outfits would stop.... those who EXECUTED the Zionist/Evangelical-Christian terror agent aren't terrorists, Islamic extremists, militants, or insurgents, they are FREEDOM FIGHTERS, HEROES, SAVIOURS, LIBERATORS, or MARTYRS.

Note - even I, after reading your previous venom filled ramblings did actually wonder if this last one was possibly sarcasm. As if in answer from above:

neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 12:17 PM Post Number: 662176 (post id: 682870)

Originally posted by gurnio
I'm going to assume that's sarcasm. Although in these forums, you never know

Just the pure objective facts

I should have known better really.

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neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 03:51 PM Post Number: 662439 (post id: 683133)

This "surrendering" gentleman will serve as a perfect tool to plant disinformation (intelligence) to the Saudis and as a valuble insider resource for bin-Laden

Your lack of intellect extends to the realm of surrealism here.

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neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 06:21 PM Post Number: 662747 (post id: 683441)

A post of no interest really. A huge quote followed by two sentences.

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neomoniker posted on 14/7/04 at 11:24 PM Post Number: 663520 (post id: 684214)

Reasonable post, probably it was kept to five short sentences. Of no interest here.

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neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 10:28 AM Post Number: 664672 (post id: 685366)

...the terrorist Zionist/JUDEO-Christian Bush-Blair regimes would have never staged... Don't expect to read anything like that in your local Jew monopoly media rag-journal anytime soon, because it ain't gonna happen.

neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 02:05 PM Post Number: 664929 (post id: 685623)

...why didn't he use them on the Zionist/JUDEO-Christian terrorists when they launched their unprovoked act of armed aggression...

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neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 05:03 PM Post Number: 665251 (post id: 685945)

Well, it's about time someone dropped the hammer on them Jews. They've been given carte blanche to do just about anything - child porn/snuff film production, you name it - ever since their little HOLLOWHOAX 50+ years ago.

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neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 05:23 PM Post Number: 665294 (post id: 685988)
neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 07:02 PM Post Number: 665539 (post id: 686233)

Posts only of inane content, only included because I wouldn't want you to think I wasn't paying attention.

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neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 07:33 PM Post Number: 665630 (post id: 686324)
neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 08:34 PM Post Number: 665766 (post id: 686460)
neomoniker posted on 15/7/04 at 09:25 PM Post Number: 665888 (post id: 686582)
neomoniker posted on 16/7/04 at 02:02 PM Post Number: 667492 (post id: 688186)
neomoniker posted on 17/7/04 at 12:31 AM Post Number: 668695 (post id: 689389)
neomoniker posted on 20/7/04 at 02:25 PM Post Number: 674890 (post id: 695584)
neomoniker posted on 23/7/04 at 01:25 AM Post Number: 681210 (post id: 701904)
neomoniker posted on 23/7/04 at 01:48 AM Post Number: 681242 (post id: 701936)
neomoniker posted on 23/7/04 at 12:09 PM Post Number: 681974 (post id: 702668)
neomoniker posted on 23/7/04 at 12:21 PM Post Number: 681981 (post id: 702675)

In all of the above posts - not one dig at Zionist/JUDEO-Christian evil doers. I'm surprised really, the thread was about The Great Pyramids. Thought you might have slipped an insult in there somewhere. Are you slipping?

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neomoniker posted on 18/7/04 at 03:03 AM Post Number: 670519 (post id: 691213)

This appears to be a trial run to work out all of the bugs before the global plantation slave masters take it world wide to monitor the activities of ALL humans in the not to distant future

Go on - tell us who.

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neomoniker posted on 21/7/04 at 11:09 PM Post Number: 678490 (post id: 699184)

That's just more sophomoric commie-feminist, police state, lesbian-homosexual, Jewish head shrink crap disseminated to lessen the attraction and appeal of weapons to the male population. It's Just another one of their little Jew monopoly media head games, that's all.

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neomoniker posted on 22/7/04 at 08:57 PM Post Number: 680643 (post id: 701337)

Don't hold your breath for a Zionist/JUDEO-Christian US State Department travel advisory, warning American's about Israeli terrorists murdering foreigners in South East Asia for their identity doc's, you'll only die from suffocation.

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neomoniker posted on 22/7/04 at 09:16 PM Post Number: 680679 (post id: 701373)

I Deny The Hollowhoax! I would like to go on record as being a staunch, intransigent, incorrigible Hollowhoax denier. I formerly deny the Hollowhoax killed 6 million Jews in German concentration camps. Additionally, I proclaim the number of Jews who actually lost their lives in the concentration camps was far below 1 million souls. Further more, I say most of them died as a consequence of exposure, malnutrition, and disease, not deliberated maltreatment and torture.

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neomoniker posted on 23/7/04 at 01:42 PM Post Number: 682049 (post id: 702743)

I think it's time for the state sponsored Zionist/JUDEO-Christians to drop anymore pretense by renaming the DoD to the DoO, Department of Offense, and the defense authorization bill to the offense authorization bill.

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neomoniker posted on 24/7/04 at 12:47 PM Post Number: 684279 (post id: 704973)

Is this a flanking maneuver by Jews to eventually get around the 1st Amendment free speech clause by controlling "hate speech," aka Hollowhoax deniers, by way of mandatory, universally applied psych evals? (Denial of the Hollowhoax would be classified as a "mental disorder" by the Jewish witch doctors)

neomoniker posted on 26/7/04 at 07:45 PM Post Number: 688344 (post id: 709038)

Originally posted by neomoniker

Originally posted by TheBandit795


And neomoniker, can you please stop posting about your obession with jews???

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I'll try

I wouldn't hold your breath TheBandit.

The reply by TheBandit -

You don't try. You just don't do it. We don't need any of that here.

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neomoniker posted on 25/7/04 at 02:44 PM Post Number: 686028 (post id: 706722)

... just the latest manifestation of those commie B's at the National Organization for Women and their comrade bedfellows to push their divide and conquer socialist scheme.
Women are about as "innocent" as a 2 dollar whore if the truth be told. Most are better at masking it then others that's all.
They would only manage to lose their commie-socialist, divide-and-conquer leverage employed in pursuit of their agenda by effectively cutting themselves and their government commie comrades out of the action.
... appeals through front organizations like NOW, NAACP, GAY PRIDE, ABORTION RIGHTS, along with their commie government politicians...
Women, Blacks, Gays and Lesbians, can more easily be duped and used to progress their commie-socialist goals of a centralized, all powerful police state apparatus only when they are made to feel vulnerable and threatened.
If any "sensitive, loving, gentle, nurturing" females are offended with this post...you can go suck on a door knob.

neomoniker posted on 26/7/04 at 04:42 PM Post Number: 687967 (post id: 708661)

Seth Bullock

Oh, I get it, now. Because you're a Jew, believing you enjoy special, entitled treatment, you took

umbridge with the HOLLOWHOAX post I made in another ATS thread.
Then you come out swinging from your corner, in a new thread, using my ALLEGED hateful comments toward women and minorities to cover your flanks (and hoping to bring in some women and minorities to your cause), when what really offended you all along were the HOLLOWHOAX remarks I made at a completely different threadI can read you like a book, buddy
PS: I'll continue to make any HOLLOWHOAX remarks as the situation arises. You have my promise on that, Seth.

Careful now neomoniker - it could come across as if your some kind of Nazi.

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neomoniker posted on 26/7/04 at 05:53 PM Post Number: 688114 (post id: 708808)

The HOLLOWHOAX, aka Holocaust, is a prime example of a very successfully waged psychic driving brain washing campaign begun years ago. The "American" Jew monopoly media was, and is used to great effect upon persuading a majority of the public that their little HOLLOWHOAX was a significant, monumental event in the annals of history. When in point of fact is was nothing of the kind.
Hence the Jew media perpetrated HOLLOWHOAX ...
At the very end of this very gory, sick movie about a real life psychopathic killer, the Jew movie makers have the lead character, Ed Gein, sitting down on a sofa, reading a book with a large swastika on the front cover, while listening to Adolf Hitler's live shortwave radio broadcasts from Germany
It was only included at the very end of the movie for the purpose of driving a subliminal message into the viewers' now traumatized and highly suggestable state of mind, of a cause and effect association between sociopathic madmen in general, and the Jew's little HOLLOWHOAX

neomoniker posted on 26/7/04 at 07:31 PM Post Number: 688309 (post id: 709003)

My personal feelings towards Jews in general are no different than any others.

Really, I beg to differ. I suggest you are a sad, embittered, spiteful and morally repugnant little man who hates Jews. An opinion which, after reading from the above, cannot be denied.

Jack

Originally posted by JAK
Ok neomoniker you offensive little schlemiel, enough of your spiteful, hate filled bile.

Well, after all that hard work put into that WAAAY-to-long post, I certainly hope you feel better, JAK.

I hope this doesn't mean we still can't be friends.

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Just trying to show you in your true colours neomoniker.

After all, I could hardly let such a post as:

My personal feelings towards Jews in general are no different than any others.

go unanswered could I.

Love and kisses,

Jack

Originally posted by JAK
Just trying to show you in your true colours neomoniker.

After all, I could hardly let such a post as:

My personal feelings towards Jews in general are no different than any others.

go unanswered could I.

Love and kisses,

Jack

You make me feel so guilty and ashamed of myself, JAK

Hugs and kisses right back at ya,

neomoniker

Well hello there neomoniker,

Why would I make you feel guilty? You seem to have real issues here.

Taken from a post made by you on another thread:

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neomoniker posted on 27/7/04 at 12:49 PM Post Number: 689677 (post id: 710371)

I didn't have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with it (The Holocaust), and I won't be made to feel that I do...

Who has suggested that any guilt for this action should be borne by you? Why do you so strongly feel you need to prove your innocence. I certainly haven't mentioned any such thing, neither on any of the other threads has anyone else.

So why the need for this continued insistence of innocence such as:

make me feel so guilty

and the one mentioned above?

Perhaps you should take a look at the surroundings in which you grew up to see where this misplaced sense of blame stems from. Perhaps you should ask your mother if she has any ideas about this complex.

Oh - I forgot. It wouldn't be worth asking her would it, after all:

Women are about as "innocent" as a 2 dollar whore if the truth be told. Most are better at masking it then others that's all.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that a persons primary impression/understanding of both sexes stems from their parenting. Maybe before posting any further you should sit down and have a long, and perhaps enlightening, conversation with your mother.

Sincerely yours,

Jack

Originally posted by JAK
Well hello there neomoniker,

Why would I make you feel guilty? You seem to have real issues here.

JAK, thanks for your misapplied and completely unnecessary concern and advice. However, you should note that you're erroneously taking my attempts at rhetorical sarcasm/humor as admitted fact.

You silly



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Oh please neomoniker, come on now.

I should point out that my initial point was to show you for what you are, that is all. Nothing more nothing less. Something which I think has been achieved, you have no credability left as reguards that topic.

You stated that your opinion of Jews was no different than that held by others, I merely exposed the truth about your views, and proved that the statement made by you was a lie. It was very simple, all quotes are your own words, and none I believe taken out of context.

Now let's agree to let those who wish to debate the intended topic of this thread continue to do so.

Sincerely yours,

Jack

Originally posted by JAK
Oh please neomoniker, come on now.

I should point out that my initial point was to show you for what you are, that is all. Nothing more nothing less. Something which I think has been achieved, you have no credability left as reguards that topic.

You stated that your opinion of Jews was no different than that held by others, I merely exposed the truth about your views, and proved that the statement made by you was a lie. It was very simple, all quotes are your own words, and none I believe taken out of context.

Now let's agree to let those who wish to debate the intended topic of this thread continue to do so.

Sincerely yours,

Jack

Credibility?! I'm not seeking "credibility" from you or anyone else, JAK. That's just another straw man used by people seeking to control and restrict debate. No thanks. I don't want your regard or grant of "credibility".

In any case, if as you state, "you have no credibility," then why are you and others at ATS working overtime to discredit and minimize this in-credibility, JAK? If it weren't "credible" no one should pay any heed to it whatsoever. Right!

Neomoniker,

A little help for you:

cred�i�bil�i�ty
n.

1. The quality, capability, or power to elicit belief: �America's credibility must not be squandered, especially by its leaders� (Henry A. Kissinger).
2. A capacity for belief: a story that strained our credibility.

Ok, do you understand? I believe you do, I believe your attempted expression of lack of intellect entirely implausible.

But, perhaps, you do need things explaining more precisely than others. I shall attempt to help. Firstly though let me set out that these shall be my last words on the matter, because as I stated previously I feel we should:

agree to let those who wish to debate the intended topic of this thread continue to do so.

I am sure that kinglizard is already displeased at having his thread hijacked thus far.

So here goes, one last, and quite possibly futile, attempt to help you understand:

If you do not wish to be percieved as having any credibility regarding your comments, then you would be happy for any member here to acknowledge your repeated posts expressing intense resentment for those of the Jewish faith consist of nothing excepting impotent rhetoric.

A position I suggest that you would consider undesirable. Therefore you would like those who read such statements to regard you as having some credibility.

Your arguments lack any meaningful substance whatsoever, and when it all starts to get a little to close to the bone, then what? You complain about:

why are you and others at ATS working overtime to discredit and minimize this in-credibility

'You're all ganging up on me.' There has been no-one else involved in this discourse, only you and I.

As for people paying attention to what you have tried to say, it is not because what you were offering was credible, but that it was offensive.

Here - work out the difference yourself. Online Dictionary

Regards,

Jack

I would like here to take the opportunity of offering my sincerest apologies to Kinglizard for disrupting his thread thus far and state that from this point I shall refrain from any further interference as was my expressed intention beforehand.

Jack

[edit on 27/7/04 by JAK]

Originally posted by JAK
Neomoniker,

A little help for you:

cred�i�bil�i�ty
n.

1. The quality, capability, or power to elicit belief: �America's credibility must not be squandered, especially by its leaders� (Henry A. Kissinger).
2. A capacity for belief: a story that strained our credibility.

Firstly though let me set out that these shall be my last words on the matter, because as I stated previously I feel we should:

Your arguments lack any meaningful substance whatsoever, and when it all starts to get a little to close to the bone, then what? You complain about:

why are you and others at ATS working overtime to discredit and minimize this in-credibility

'You're all ganging up on me.' There has been no-one else involved in this discourse, only you and I.


[edit on 27/7/04 by JAK]

Henry Who? Oh yeah, I vaguely recall now... wasn't he that Jew Boy the treasonous Kosher Mafia managed to get appointed by Nixon Administration as US Sec. of State? Not exactly what I would consider a "credible" source, I'm afraid.

When I wrote, "you and others," I meant, you, and a couple of other individuals on other threads I've posted comments regarding Jews. That's a very far cry from "ALL," my friend.

This shall be my last words on the matter UNDER THIS THREAD as well...unless someone else chooses to address the matter again, that is

It's been nice chattin' with ya, JAK!

LATER!

neomoniker






[edit on 27-7-2004 by neomoniker]

Neomoniker, do you know you are global ignore?

And everyone else, can we get this back on topic and stop making this a "we all hate you Neomoniker" thread.

I dont watch TV anymore, because ive decided that its not worth the bad things that get flooded into your brain to get some entertainment. (i still watch movies though).

---pineapple

Originally posted by pineappleupsidedown
I dont watch TV anymore, because ive decided that its not worth the bad things that get flooded into your brain to get some entertainment.

That�s really impressive. I love TV and would find it very difficult to give-up. I hate sitcoms and rarely watch them but I love educational TV like discovery, history, science and PBS. Now I know that even educational TV is not good for the mind because of the hypnotic state it creates in the brain but I can�t give it up.

I can't say I agree there pineappleupsidedown. It sounds to me like cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Originally posted by pineappleupsidedown
I dont watch TV anymore, because ive decided that its not worth the bad things that get flooded into your brain to get some entertainment.

There are many good programs on TV, many informative and educational documentaries. I don't really understand the logic of avoiding a media that offers such because of 'the bad things'. The ultimate power is at your fingertips; selective viewing. You can even video any programs and ignore the brain numbing adverts if you so wish.

Whilst there are many informative programs on TV though, I cannot say the same for movies. I presume, maybe incorrectly, that the majority of movies you refer to are from Hollywood, sometimes described as the greatest propoganda machine in history. For me Hollywood for quite some time now has failed to offer anything that could even be considered worthwhile. The only film shown at theateres recently that has aroused any interest at all on my part has been Michael Moors' 9/11. Not because of any positive or negative feelings it has aroused in me, but the debate it has caused. This can be no bad thing. Ironically though it is a film set in the style of a documentary, not exactly a regular occurance in the realms of hollywood. Which media then is where you may find this style of entertainment most prevalent? TV.

Something of particular interest to me is flicking through a few of the 24-hour news channels while they report on the same story, and seeing the different interpretations offered. It was with great personal surprise that during the most recent military action undertaken in Iraq, I came to the conclusion that the least jingoistic offering from the choice of BBC, ITV and SKY 24-hour news channels was, in my opinion, from the BBC. Great surprise indeed.

Let us also not forget those powerful images that have become burned into our memories as defining moments in history, moments where journalists sometimes risked their lives to offer us such images. The tearing down of the Berlin wall, the lone gentleman in front of the tanks of Tiananmen Square. Such actions are surely those to strengthen the belief, and raise the hopes of all mankind for a better tommorow.

This, then, is what TV can offer.

It may be that in my eyes such popular programs as EastEnders and Coronation Street are a modern equivalent to valium for a large number of people. I may be of the opinion that the likes of these are shown as entertainment only to offer to the public images of others in such strife that they recline at home after watching considering themselves lucky not to be surrounded by such unfortunate circumstance, and so feel content and thus pacified.

This though is only one aspect of the media in question here, and as mentioned before the ultimate censorship is at your fingertips.

The majority of presently available movies only offer, at best, an artful interpretation of a fictional story, a fantastic delightful escapism. At worst, and it is my opinion this covers the vast majority, subtle propoganda.

So for the choice between movies, as is your preference, and TV in all it's forms; I am of the opposite persuasion and choose to forgo the restricted offerings from the sterile machine that is Hollywood, and make use of the combination of personal choice and multitude of offerings brought through TV.

Jack