Israel prepares to strike Iran

The fireworks are about to fly soon.I don't know if we would joining them in a air strikes our not.Stuff is sure getting heated up.
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One of the long-running debates here in Jerusalem is whether or not the US and Israel are preparing the ground for a military strike on Iran.


There is vast disagreement here on this issue - and there are no easy answers.

But wheels are in motion.

As McClatchy reported last week, Israel has been laying the psychological foundations for a strike on Iran.

Today, The New York Times reports that Israel has also begun training for a military strike on Iran.

And here is more info on something going on.

The New York Times report quoted U.S. officials as saying more than 100 Israeli F-16s and F-15s staged the maneuver over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece in the first week of June. It said the aircraft flew more than 900 miles (1,450 kilometers), roughly the distance from Israel to Iran's Natanz nuclear enrichment facility, and that the exercise included refueling tankers and helicopters capable of rescuing downed pilots.

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[edit on 25-6-2008 by Skyfloating]

This is the sort of thing that many might be tempted to sneak in before the end of Bush's reign of terror.

Hugo Chavez is another one who must be counting the minutes until the bushwhacker leaves office.

I think that if we get an Obama presidency there is a chance that the US might reach into the dresser and pull out it's velvet gloves again and try to rejoin polite society. That is going to chafe the Israeli right wing, no doubt.

Mmmmm... the Joint Chiefs Chairman is off to Israel too (yesterday). Maybe to receive his marching orders?

www.cbsnews.com...

The US leadership sure do spend a lot of time visiting Israel or receiving Israeli political figures back home. Makes one wonder just who they are working for, the American people or Israelis

Then there is the current "Iran war Bill" doing the rounds at the moment.

www.antiwar.com...

The bill is the chief legislative priority of AIPAC. On its Web site, AIPAC endorses the resolutions as a way to ”Stop Iran’s Nuclear Program” and tells readers to lobby Congress to pass the bill. In the Senate, a sister resolution, Resolution 580, has gained co-sponsors with similar speed. The Senate measure was introduced by Indiana Democrat Evan Bayh on June 2. It has since gained 19 co-sponsors.

The bill’s key section “demands that the president initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran’s nuclear program.”

Strong stuff, practically a declaration of war in itself. With China and Russia having economic and trade ties with Iran, how will they react to having their citizens, ships, aircraft stopped and searched? I can't see the UN passing a bill like this as it'd be vetoed by China and Russia, so would the US take unilateral action? If so, it could blow up in their faces pretty damn quick, or maybe that is the idea?

It's been planned for some time now. Iranian targets have been laser tagged last summer by special op forces in small units.

The next few weeks are going to be interesting. Look for Iran to strike first on the US Navy 5th fleet with Sunburn II anti-ship mobile launch vehicles.

It is getting tense, read the thread "June 20th". Russia is trying to send the US a very strong message. The US sent one back and then destroyed it mid-flight!

This attack could spark WWIII. We should all hope that it is contained no matter which way things transgress.



[edit on 25-6-2008 by jetxnet]

There is no doubt that this is going to happend some time soon.

But there is one problem, and that is that Israel cant attack Iran on its own. Not if Iran threatens a full out war if they get bomb.

A hundred and some Jetfighters from Israel alone cant stop the 30 000 rockest been fierd from Iran to Israel. And maybe some 10 000 rockets from Lebanon.

I think what they are disscusing now before the bombing starts is where the US stands on the issue.

If Israel and the US are going to bomb. They have to do it on a mass scale. They cant just take out the Nuckler plants. First they have to take out the rockest that Iran is going to use as a retaliation if they get attacked.

I think Israel is going to attack Lebanon, and the US will take on Iran.

Ps, In the bibel its stated that a leader from the east is given a large sword or a battel. This might be the one.


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If Israel and the US are going to bomb. They have to do it on a mass scale. They cant just take out the Nuckler plants.

I would have to think that this is the plan. I don't think they will just casually bomb the country. Especially in light of all of the recent big talk by Iran. I would have to assume that it will be a very crippling first wave. After that, I wouldn't want to live in Israel, because there will be rockets and mortars raining on them for a long time.

Dos any one remember when Israel did bombarded Saddam Hussein back then?
There was no warning in the media…therefore one have to assume that Israel is bluffing is way for some political gain.
If they wanted to strike Iran they wouldn’t know where to start because of the nuclear power plant location which is so spread out and some unknown.
This is a spin roller coaster which will end when the American election is over, then all situation will be on the table concerning Iran.
My opinion of course.

Kacou

If it follows convention, will go something like this:

- A US DoD Division for Information Warfare trys bringing down Iran's air defense network with a Virus prior to attack. It worked on Iraq's "Tiger Song" air defense network. It will not likely work this time as China has helped Iran with this network and learned from the past.

- Israel sorties begin first knocking out air defense facilities and runways. Israel will lose some planes, but not many. Hezbollah will fire missles at Israel, but Israel's air-defense will knock most of these down. A few will hit their targets, but nothing substantial.

- Israel continues sorties, but now strike Iran's main Nuclear centers. US gives sorties help with 5-10 Stealth bombers hitting the really big targets and hot backups on stand-by via the US 5th Fleet.

- Iran, launches some Sun-Burn II anti-ship missles with mobile launchers from rocky coast and manage to do some damage to a couple US warships. The US levels the rocky coast with the A-10 Warthogs.

Meanwhile, Russia has some Nuclear subs in the region on high alert should it go further. The US also has Nuclear subs in the region. Very tense, but Russia backs off.

China sitting quietly but getting ready to go after Taiwan.

Iran's nuke facilites will be nearly dessimated. Iran will be left to rethoric and strong talk about attacking the US and Israel in the future.

[edit on 25-6-2008 by jetxnet]

Originally posted by jetxnet
If it follows convention, will go something like this:

- A US DoD Division for Information Warfare trys bringing down Iran's air defense network with a Virus prior to attack. It worked on Iraq's "Tiger Song" air defense network. It will not likely work this time as China has helped Iran with this network and learned from the past.

- Israel sorties begin first knocking out air defense facilities and runways. Israel will lose some planes, but not many. Hezbollah will fire missles at Israel, but Israel's air-defense will knock most of these down. A few will hit their targets, but nothing substantial.

- Israel continues sorties, but now strike Iran's main Nuclear centers. US gives sorties help with 5-10 Stealth bombers hitting the really big targets and hot backups on stand-by via the US 5th Fleet.

- Iran, launches some Sun-Burn II anti-ship missles with mobile launchers from rocky coast and manage to do some damage to a couple US warships. The US levels the rocky coast with the A-10 Warthogs.

Meanwhile, Russia has some Nuclear subs in the region on high alert should it go further. The US also has Nuclear subs in the region. Very tense, but Russia backs off.

China sitting quietly but getting ready to go after Taiwan.

Iran's nuke facilites will be nearly dessimated. Iran will be left to rethoric and strong talk about attacking the US and Israel in the future.

[edit on 25-6-2008 by jetxnet]

You forgot to mention Irans 30 000 rockets aimed at Israel. And do you know hove big that nuber is . Lets say if Israel and the US are abel to shoot down 20 000 rockets, and thats going to take a day or two . There will be 10 000 left hitting Israel.

And If iran attacks the US navy its not with just one or 10 rockets. They have 2 to 3000 of them in diffrent shapes and sices.

They also have subs lurking in the whaters.

NO i think this is going to be a real mess for both sides.

[edit on 25-6-2008 by spy66]

Those 10,000 rockets pointed at Israel are mostly 1950s Russian SCUD missles which are basically tin cans and next to worthless.

When Israel and Hezbollah went to war for several months last year (or the year bofore?), Hezbollah shot thousands of these missles at Israel and only killed under 100 people!! That is good of course, but these old SCUDs can't hit the broad side of a barn, and when they do, it only damages part of the building it hits or creates a small crater.

10 Patriots are more effective than those 10,000 SCUDS and would actually do more damage.

Iran has subs, but they are not Nuclear. They do not have the advanced Radar, nothing like the US has. The US would secure the region quite easily and quickly.

Also, a single US Agesis Destroyer can track and take out up to 100 targets simultaneously above and below Sea.




[edit on 25-6-2008 by jetxnet]

Originally posted by jetxnet
Those 10,000 rockets pointed at Israel are mostly 1950s Russian SCUD missles which are basically tin cans and next to worthless.

When Israel and Hezbollah went to war for several months last year (or the year bofore?), Hezbollah shot thousands of these missles at Israel and only killed under 100 people!! That is good of course, but these old SCUDs can't hit the broad side of a barn, and when they do, it only damages part of the building it hits or creates a small crater.

10 Patriots are more effective than those 10,000 SCUDS and would actually do more damage.

Iran has subs, but they are not Nuclear. They do not have the advanced Radar, nothing like the US has. The US would secure the region quite easily and quickly.

Also, a single US Agesis Destroyer can track and take out up to 100 targets simultaneously above and below Sea.




[edit on 25-6-2008 by jetxnet]

Yes you are a 100% correct. So whats the problem realy. Why dont we attack asap. When Iran cant hurt or hit # any ways. All we have to do is fly in there and bomb the crap out of them without anny danger.

Whats the delay here?

[edit on 25-6-2008 by spy66]

There really isn't any delay, it is more political than fear.

Iraq was planned more than a year in advance, and the same for Iran.

The US has to pretend to exhaust all diplomatic routes and the last move by Iran to deny talks or adhere to agreements with incentives has nearly closed the diplomatic route. Not-to-mention, no longer letting inspectors in.

Expect the attack to take place in July considering no big surprise occur otherwise.